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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 15/01/2018, 16:27:34 UTC
The idea is way more sophisticated than straight forward gambling of money, I guess you guys didn't read the entire thread ..

However if I do make the time and find the right partners to execute this, will definitely share with you guys.

Thanks for all your comments, definitely helpful.
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 12/01/2018, 05:37:15 UTC
nope, i don't know you and i will not give my money on unreputable person

Please don't give any money, but do me a favour and read the comments before posting..
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 11/01/2018, 20:30:02 UTC
Thanks @harizen, much appreciated. Yes even I feel 0.01 BTC quite a bit of amount.
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 11/01/2018, 19:44:39 UTC
No, idea is not really new, it is lottery with expensive ticket.. I'll rather pay 2€ for eurojackpot.
Not to mention that you won't find 15000 players which are willing to spend 130-140$ on ticket.
Another thing - you are newbie, you will have to use escrow, provide fairness of draw etc. Things are just too complicated.

Why do you guys keep assuming I would personally do it.. and that's the only option - if one is a newbie in this forum there's no chance to do well in the crypto industry. You mean to say each and every ICO founder or a [Suspicious link removed]pany founder is in this forum building their reputation...

I don't buy into that.. being newbie on this forum has nothing to do with launching a Lotto via a website through strong partnerships with industry leaders. Having good reputation in this forum could be helpful, but not a deal breaker by any stretch.

I make note of your point about finding 15,000 players - I agree this could be ambitious to achieve, but the whole rant about being Newbie.. trust is being easily solved through partnerships. Case in point > 99% of the ICOs who are raising significant sums without an active product and in most cases a MVP or anything.. just based on Roadmaps, Whitepaper and a Team.
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 11/01/2018, 13:31:26 UTC
Guys I'm working something, which I will definitely share with the community soon.

I've a very simple question to all traders and Bitcoin enthusiasts.

Would you be interested in taking part in a lottery where you can win 100 Bitcoins by investing 0.01 BTC?

Basic rules are as follows: Participation cost  0.01 BTC, 15,000 participants.. 1 winner gets 100 Bitcoins, 20 Runner up winners get 2 Bitcoins each.

I'm working on a similar concept - wanted some thoughts from you folks before I take it any further..

So will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC? Yes or No and why...





I'm going to take a neutral stand, unless this all are clarified. What's the site name that will handle it. What method will you use, and please don't say random generator. There has to be a good script for this. No one will do it, unless the fund's aren't escrowed, who'll pay the escrow fee, and 15000 people that makes it a scam, I would recommend 150 people and reduce. You'll need a legendary member backing you. Till then neither do I say a yes or no.

Much appreciated.. see it doesn't hurt to share some constructive thoughts.

Well, at this point.. it is just an idea - nothing done yet.. no website or anything yet.. just wanted to see what others thought of it. As a casual observer of how people are investing and trading currencies, this would be another avenue for people to try their luck. How bad can it be - eventually one guy does get 100 Bitcoins.

Most of you guys own gambling businesses yourself, why don't you give this idea some thoughts.. you've the reputation and technology it seems, and I can assure the amount of media coverage you'll get iff done right will anyway boost your business 100 fold even if you don't make any money from this lotto itself.

I'm still analysing the pros, cons and the costs involved - will probably partner with a few of you from this forum and go ahead.. as the idea is not just a jackpot but much much deeper than that. and it sure as hell not a scam.. else I wouldn't be using my own identity or even discussing it on a forum.

I just feel, a 100BTC jackpot could drive huge traffic and we can easily get people to participate as tens of thousands of people are already invested in the market and thousands joining daily. There will be 20-30 winners with one of them winning 100 BTC.. I don't see any downside.. expect for all the negative ramblings of people scamming and stuff.

Frankly I don't even wish to make money from the jackpot itself, all the collections can to the winners - the traffic itself will pay for all the effort.

No one has done a 100 BTC jackpot yet... or have they?



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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 11/01/2018, 08:46:39 UTC
first of all this is a lottery and lotteries don't have that many people interested in them specially with such a high price for buying the "tickets" which is 130-150 USD based on bitcoin price at that moment. which means even less people will be interested in it.

secondly making a lottery to a provably fair thing is nearly impossible in my opinion. you can add a provably fair system and pick the winner in a fair fashion but that doesn't guarantee fairness of the lottery itself. you may have gotten 1000 players but had 14000 fake entries yourself (the total of 15000). nothing about such system is fair.

Fair point about fake entries - I didn't consider this.

It is not just a lotto, I'm unable to fully disclose the idea - winning the 100 BTC jackpot is only an additional benefit to add to the excitement, but the actual collection of money is anyway happening for a reason that people are going to pay anyway which serves a real purpose.

So the investment/bet is not necessarily motivated towards winning the jackpot.


However since the Trust and security issues are brought u by almost everyone of you in this thread - I'm wondering how do I enforce the best security, transparency and trust. My thinking was, people/businesses pay to a given wallet for the service being rendered, at the end of it all - winners are randomly selected using a program and the corresponding winning stakes are sent to the winners. DONE. Am I missing something?

Or is their a Escrow service, where all the collections are directly deposited in real time for people to see and verify the Live bounty?

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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 11/01/2018, 06:00:38 UTC
Guys I'm working something, which I will definitely share with the community soon.

I've a very simple question to all traders and Bitcoin enthusiasts.

Would you be interested in taking part in a lottery where you can win 100 Bitcoins by investing 0.01 BTC?

Basic rules are as follows: Participation cost  0.01 BTC, 15,000 participants.. 1 winner gets 100 Bitcoins, 20 Runner up winners get 2 Bitcoins each.

I'm working on a similar concept - wanted some thoughts from you folks before I take it any further..

So will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC? Yes or No and why...





No one will participate this shitty lottery with your newbie account, 0 trust and no one knows you are. So why people will invest 0.01 bitcoin to an unknown person ? You can easily run away with the participant bitcoins, easy money huh ? No, i will not invest my bitcoins to you.

Relax Steve, it is all a hypothesis still - just looking for some inputs from experienced folks like yourself.

Also let's say it is being conducted by a very trust worthy brand, then you think it will be worthy of participating? remember 1 Winner gets 100 BTC and 20 more gets 2 BTC each.

From a chances ratio, isn't this something worth betting on?
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 10/01/2018, 17:10:19 UTC
is it real? if it real then i think 100 btc got their members, if you see 100 btc then keep it in your dream, if it real, otherwise i think its fake.

Sir, it is not real - it's a hypothetical scenario..
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 10/01/2018, 16:51:13 UTC
It could work, this is how traditional lotteries works, doing the math:

0.01 btc * 15000 users = 150 btc .

So, the winner receives 100 btc,
20 guys get 2btc = 40 btc

100btc + 40btc = 140 btc .

I suppose that the 10 resting btc are your profit?, right Tongue

Yes, something like that - but my question is , is it not enticing enough to invest $0.01 to win 100 BTC with appx 15,000 contestants participating.

I've not played much lottery, neither an active user of Bitcoin - but given the fact that everyone trading is looking for a big return and risking their money anyway, a contest like this if not anything could be a lot of fun and excitement.

Would you not try to win 100 BTC with a 1/15000 chances ?

For me, I wouldn't even try to trust my money to a stranger unless you are really trusted. I will still prefer to play on dice with 9900x multiplier rather than playing lottery and wait for other people to fill that 150btc

You're InsurePal... extra caution and safety is expected of you. I'm talking about people with a little more appetite for fun..
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 10/01/2018, 16:44:15 UTC
I think this is crazy idea and no one will put that much money on stakes where the odds of winning are really really low. I mean in total only 21 winners from the 15000 participants. What do you think what can be done with that? I mean at least I know that I’m not lucky enough to put that much money and even get the 21st position to win that 2 BTC. Plus we would love to know how they gonna raise the money so surely and how they are securing our funds. I mean do we really get the security if we don’t reach the minimum participant cap. There are many things which needs to be assured first so that people will trust something like that. For me may be I won’t.

Thanks for your input.. I needed such feedback only. Points noted.  Smiley
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 10/01/2018, 16:30:06 UTC
It could work, this is how traditional lotteries works, doing the math:

0.01 btc * 15000 users = 150 btc .

So, the winner receives 100 btc,
20 guys get 2btc = 40 btc

100btc + 40btc = 140 btc .

I suppose that the 10 resting btc are your profit?, right Tongue

Yes, something like that - but my question is , is it not enticing enough to invest $0.01 to win 100 BTC with appx 15,000 contestants participating.

I've not played much lottery, neither an active user of Bitcoin - but given the fact that everyone trading is looking for a big return and risking their money anyway, a contest like this if not anything could be a lot of fun and excitement.

Would you not try to win 100 BTC with a 1/15000 chances ?
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 10/01/2018, 16:22:56 UTC
Is there anyone who can trust this, by investing 0.01btc will be able to get 100 BTC, if it is true whether this will use escrow


 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Only winner gets that, not everyone -
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Re: Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 10/01/2018, 15:18:04 UTC
Am I totally nuts to think like this?
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Question/Poll - Will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC?
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basu77
on 10/01/2018, 13:17:27 UTC
Guys I'm working something, which I will definitely share with the community soon.

I've a very simple question to all traders and Bitcoin enthusiasts.

Would you be interested in taking part in a lottery where you can win 100 Bitcoins by investing 0.01 BTC?

Basic rules are as follows: Participation cost  0.01 BTC, 15,000 participants.. 1 winner gets 100 Bitcoins, 20 Runner up winners get 2 Bitcoins each.

I'm working on a similar concept - wanted some thoughts from you folks before I take it any further..

So will you invest 0.01 BTC to win 100 BTC? Yes or No and why...