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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | RC4 Testing
I like the concept of using multi-sig to do legal tax planning.
http://youtu.be/7UEjxH7C95o?t=1h10m15s
Like Amazon, Apple, Google, etc having multi-location tax planning to move cash to the most efficient locations.
One entity or legal partnership spread around the world with multi-jurisdiction rights to apply local tax rules, eg tax havens, giving wallet access to each entity, but with built-in safety features.
That is such a cool and potentially killer feature of crypto. Especially with DRKs anonymity layer on top.
I'll have to do some digging around on the various tax codes and rules to figure out whats what.
http://youtu.be/7UEjxH7C95o?t=1h10m15s
Like Amazon, Apple, Google, etc having multi-location tax planning to move cash to the most efficient locations.
One entity or legal partnership spread around the world with multi-jurisdiction rights to apply local tax rules, eg tax havens, giving wallet access to each entity, but with built-in safety features.
That is such a cool and potentially killer feature of crypto. Especially with DRKs anonymity layer on top.
I'll have to do some digging around on the various tax codes and rules to figure out whats what.
Local Tax Coercer: "Where is all your money?"
Amazon: "Cyberspace."
Local Tax Coercer: "Uh..."
edit for DRK lulz:
Local Tax Coercer: "Where is all your money?"
Amazon: "The Moon."
Local Tax Coercer: "Fuck it I'm calling NASA!"
Sop saying tax and call it for what it is. Theft.
Other than that, carry on.
Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin NOT Anonymous Coin | Masternode Scam | RC4 Failing
I am a criminal and thief. That is all.
What office do you currently hold?
the 24h volume is doing really great today!
It's been nine days since the Rev 2 beta was released.
rev2 beta was split into RC parts. The roadmap is still active.
even though the price blows for all us us holders, XC is still the best game in town by a long stretch! I just gotta Keep my mind off the price and the price off my mind!
only 5 + million coins, fully POS so no new coins entering market so price is more stable then BTC DRK LTC etc.
a lot faster too confirm transaction's making it more usable for wide spread adoption then other coins( plus we will have payment cards in the near future basically a debit card for XC)
it's got interest incentive via POS and Xnodes, encrypted & anonymous messaging (almost running) 100% anonymous transaction( running) both will become highly valued the more things are leaked and the government corruption on mass spying and intelligence gathering is exposed world wide.
also a hard working team, who get things done on time and over deliver, a Developer with excellent credentials, a transparent identity, and a vision that makes sense, all this adds up to a product that can dominate in the near future, if XC is marketed properly and i believe they will since we have a DEV who has helped run major company's in the past , therefor experience in managing major company's and that is what XC is set to become in the near future, but also no doubt he is contact with professional marketers who know how to sell XC, BTC's rise had a lot to do with the crises in Greece, lets be honest, the financial system world wide don't look good, a lot more country's banking institutions are going to be doing bank runs in the future, people are going to want to put there money into a solid asset before it's taken(gold and silver is hard to smuggle over borders a USB isn't), like citizens of Greece did.
if you had the decision of putting your money into BTC that isn't anonymous or XC that is, which would you choose knowing your bank owned government will take anything they can catch you with to please there masters, what would u choose? ( i know right now u need BTC to buy XC this will change in the future) the conclusion is the price of XC if marketed properly can be worth much more then BTC, it will ride on BTC to establish adoption quicker then it has, and price will not take years to take off because investors are on the look out for the BTC 2.0(and it's here) it has come around at the perfect time when government run surveillance is no longer conspiracy theory but conspiracy fact, and also when the financial system is extremely shaky and people getting nervous, XC has the perfect storm brewing to take it to prices never before seen in crypto, don't forget BTC has a tiny market cap compared to what it could, to be worth a million each even with all coins mined, it only needs to catch 1% of the world GDP and a lot of top investors and financial annalists are certain it will....what can XC be worth a product that is better, actually everything BTC wanted to be when it was first created and over 5x less product, 5x more rare..XC acceptance, recognition and major price spike will not take years and years like BTC, it has BTC's foundation to ride on, the future is big and bright for XC. congratulations to all who plan to hold long term it is by far the best decision you will ever make.
Pleasure to live this adventure with the XC community
"freedom and hasn't forgotten the government works for us, love the XC community."
These kinds of statements make me sick to my stomach. Bout as much as seeing people worship a towel.
Any serious xcers in the Atlanta area?
I may be close
Whatsup?Would be nice to sit down and discuss future xc business ideas. I run a local Atlanta bitcoin meetup on Mondays but those guys don't want to hear anything about alts. I'm not a dev, just a guy who sees great potential for this coins future.
Yea, the local bitcoin meetups in charlotte are pretty lame too. I'm for cryptocurrency as a whole and an business successful anarchist/anarcho-capitalist. My issue with bitcoin meetups is nothing interesting is talked about. If we aren't discussing philosophy, making money or how crypto can and will do away with the ruling class/government... i'm disinterested. I do like pissing off the statists though.
Any serious xcers in the Atlanta area?
I may be close
Whatsup?I am wondering why the volume in the exchanges has gone down that much, can anybody explain that to me?
You want someone to explain the mind of the market to you? Let me know when you figure this out, you'll be a multi-billionaire.
well be touching 150 tonight
id like to sell now and buy back at 150 but it just too risky.
I sold. I will buy back in when the market shows support. I still support the coin... but seeing as we might go back to where we started. I'll buy back in either way. If Dan delivers, the price will rise. XC has massive potential... but at this point, it is just that, potential.
lol. are you serious?
this coin dev just showed transparency/competence that you can't find in other coins.
another thing is ppl are whining about recent release.
actually dev delivered more than we expected, but ppl do not understand at all.
so you will discover how cheap current price is.
It's cool dude. Don't get all pissy. I don't know about you, but im very protective over my BTC. I have faith in XC, but it doesn't appear the market does... right 'now'. I'll buy back in, keep your panties on.
well be touching 150 tonight
id like to sell now and buy back at 150 but it just too risky.
I sold. I will buy back in when the market shows support. I still support the coin... but seeing as we might go back to where we started. I'll buy back in either way. If Dan delivers, the price will rise. XC has massive potential... but at this point, it is just that, potential.
Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | Fork for Masternode Payment
Sorry to burst your bubble but Wall Street, Big Banks, and Governments are in charge now and will continue to be.
If they're so "in charge" then why does marijuana still grow? Didn't they make a law banning it's existence? I mean, they do have god-like powers to make a plant of their choosing stop growing, right?They're not in charge of the laws of nature, no matter how often they pretend to be, no matter how hard their idiotic worshipers vote for them to become gods... It just won't work. They have delusions of grandeur, and you have delusions that they're not delusional...
I'm new to the darkcoin forum/community. I'm a long XC supporter since it was released... but I have to say. I fucking love the attitude around here. I'm a deontological anarchist, meaning the initiation of force is immoral and must end... IE, taxation, the ONLY way for modern government to exist must stop. I'm loving the anti government hate around around this community.
Find it odd that as the price continues to drop, the XC team is no where to be found. Strange. Perhaps they're all getting some well deserve sleep but hey more communication on progress would be reassuring for investors. It may stop or at least slow down the massive dumps and dwindling market cap we're currently seeing. My 2 cents.
Btw: still holding strong my big bag.
Btw: still holding strong my big bag.
Agreed. We can't seem to catch a break. All the recent news, and the price continues to fall.
Voluntarily pooling resources is not theft. That is called voluntarily pooling resources. You are comparing apples to oranges and attempting to build a straw man.
I thought, from what you wrote you were talking about taxation, which some people voluntarily pay.Anyway we will get too far off topic, but I was just saying some people interpret things differently.
But the good news is that a decentralised monetary system is conducive to freedom regardless of what may be minor (or major) differences of opinion
"I thought, from what you wrote you were talking about taxation, which some people voluntarily pay."
So as long as 'some' people voluntarily pay their taxes, the ones that do not, and only allow the theft to take place in fear of retaliatory violence against them and their families, that makes it all okee dokee?
I think you should watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TpIDX49b_A
So in Canada we have a very popular donut place called "Tim Hortons" - literally they are on every corner in the cities.
Tim Hortons has a donut creation contest going on - where users can design a donut and submit it to Tim Hortons to review to have it possibly accepted and sold at time hortons locations:
I present to you the XC Donut. Lime jelly filled
http://i60.tinypic.com/28c1vm0.jpg
Tim Hortons has a donut creation contest going on - where users can design a donut and submit it to Tim Hortons to review to have it possibly accepted and sold at time hortons locations:
I present to you the XC Donut. Lime jelly filled
http://i60.tinypic.com/28c1vm0.jpg
I'll be picking up my morning coffee from a Timmies this Saturday while in Vancouver. Wouldn't ever buy the overpriced doughnuts though, unless it was an XC doughnut.
Well, if this was the case no one on the fucking planet would pay taxes. The threat of force and violence is the reason anyone allows themselves to be stolen from. The entire system is immoral and unethical and is based on retaliatory violence.
Not everyone sees it quite that way. Some believe it is possible to have some form of government and taxation and still be free to pursue their own goals.In other words it is possible that people can voluntarily agree to pool resources for the common good.
Of course this takes a certain psychological posture within that society to have that happen peaceably, and life on earth seems to entail all sorts of ebbs and flows with regard to freedom.
But,yes, probably there are many examples today of the use of coercion rather than people voluntarily pooling resources.
"Some believe it is possible to have some form of government and taxation and still be free to pursue their own goals."
Not taxation with a threat of violence. Period. Slice it any way you want. Took me 2 years to finally admit I was being an asshole and lying to myself.
"In other words it is possible that people can voluntarily agree to pool resources for the common good."
Voluntarily pooling resources is not theft. That is called voluntarily pooling resources. You are comparing apples to oranges and attempting to build a straw man.
"But,yes, probably there are many examples today of the use of coercion rather than people voluntarily pooling resources."
Every single system used around the planet is based on coercion and violence. I honestly believe man acts very differently under a constant threat of retaliatory violence. Ever heard the term, 'violence begets violence'? Chew on that. I don't vote, I don't use ANY government resources that I am not FORCED to use(monopolized services IE roads). If a market alternative existed to the monopolized resources I am forced to use I would would use them in the blink of an eye. I am still stolen from, my children's future, is stolen... at the point of a gun. If I don't allow them to steal from me, men in blue and black costumes will show up at my house and attempt to 'legally; kidnap me and put me in a rape cage. Yes, 'legally' kidnapped and put into a cage with a very high probability of being raped.
What a fantastic fucking system we have. Just fan fucking tastic. Here is a quick definition of the immoral paradigm we currently exist in:
"The men with guns want your money. Give it to them, or you will be put in a cage. Resist, and you will be shot. Good day citizen"
I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!
Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?
Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?
P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.
You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.
Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes.
u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man.
"You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot"
Well, if this was the case no one on the fucking planet would pay taxes. The threat of force and violence is the reason anyone allows themselves to be stolen from. The entire system is immoral and unethical and is based on retaliatory violence.
Its called leans and garnishments you fuckhead. You dont need to "go to jail" for the government to collect.
Yes I am in a pissy mood and yes I will put people in their place when need be. I personally dont give 2 hoots right now.
Hey Mr. internet tough guy, people go to federal pound me in the ass prison every single year for avoiding theft. If you deny this, well, you can go fuck yourself, tough guy.
I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!
Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?
Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?
P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.
You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.
As you mentioned correctly, I being idiot, has medical reasons to collect taxes at large. So I throw you to jail ))
Joking apart, where is X11coin's superior anonymity compared with Bitcoin's one? All the offer I see is just decetalized mixing feature, that may save from Drug Enforcement Administration, but can not defend from Internal Revenue Service.
Where I misunderstood?
Go ahead are report me to the CID... most likely owe me back taxes if nothing else. I dont give a rats fuck if you do or dont. I find it hypricritical that you would say such things yet many known people owe yet you sit on your fucken thumbs spinning. OMG OMG HE DID NOT CLAIM $30 IN TAXES JAIL HIM!!!!
Dude brags about being an agent of the state, the state who steals childrens future every day of their existence, like my children.The state who threatens people with retaliatory violence for NOT allowing the theft to take place. Allowing a group of strangers to run your lives at the point of a gun, will never work out in your favor.
I should also note this was not a test of the anon but of the trust less transferring to and from mixers.
Woof,,, You saved my mind! Special thanks!
Can you figure out whether test of anonymity itself were made or being scheduled to? Some links?
Being tax officer, I heatedly interested in persons receiveing any income of any origin. Can I throw them in a jail by the way very similar to Bitcoin?
P.s. As for drugs, it's not my fucking business, let it be Drug Enforcement Administration's headache.
You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot. If that was the case thousands of federal workers themselves would be in jail right now for they owe billions in back taxes themselves.
Edit: One more thing while you got me going, no where does it say from XC to do illegal activities including not paying taxes.
u can go to jail for tax evasion man trust me man.
"You dont go to jail for not paying taxes you idiot"
Well, if this was the case no one on the fucking planet would pay taxes. The threat of force and violence is the reason anyone allows themselves to be stolen from. The entire system is immoral and unethical and is based on retaliatory violence.
Synechist how we doing on the Rev 2.5 donations? Did we make it to $500?
I'll check after the announcement.
Synechist, update the twitter page with the newest wallet for mainnet.
Is the next update going to be in 40 minutes? Can somebody please answer that?
Mountaingoat, give it a rest for G-d sake. Synechist has said 2pm EST the entire time. Do you know where EST is?
Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | Fork for Masternode Payment
I'm about to set up a masternode and wanted to ask the guys that do have one:
How do you decouple yourself from your masternode?
My thought were that if the government finds out you have one, the IRS might be interested. They might even accuse you of money laundering or supporting El Qaeda...
Am I just being paranoid?
How do you decouple yourself from your masternode?
My thought were that if the government finds out you have one, the IRS might be interested. They might even accuse you of money laundering or supporting El Qaeda...
Am I just being paranoid?
IMO as long as Darkcoin is mainly still underground and not a widely known Crypto thats not an issue. Gov is far behind imo in terms of legislation etc.
Nevertheless i had those thoughts too.
Privacy is not illegal!
and tax on earnings through mining or masternodes varies according to where you live. The IRS will go after you if you are caught not declaring income.
*DO NOT PAY TAXES, PERIOD* Every dollar and every vote you waste on the system is another vote/more funding towards your own oppression. Taxes = theft, so resist, rebel, do what you must but don't pay a penny.
+100000000000
The initiation of force(taxation) is immoral/unethical. You have the right to defend yourself and your property from aggression. Without taxation(theft) the system as we know it worldwide will collapse. That's what happens when you inject morality/ethics into an immoral system.