By the look of it, BTC-E support was contacted at the beginning of March, and they fixed the issue 10 days later. I understand it is not fast, but that does not look like a scam?

That's not money laundering if he uses the same bank account he used before... That's basic exchange functionality? Say BTC-E used to receive fiat from his bank account 1234 at bank XXX under the name of John Smith.

Stevn009 could use this bank account again to prove his identity, and/or ask BTC-E to withdraw his balance to that bank account? If he has used it with BTC-E before, and it is the same bank account.

That's also how many other websites assert the true identity of bank account/credit card owners. (like PayPal, they send a few cents to your bank account and then they ask you to confirm how much you received to prove you are the real account owner)

Steven009 writes that he's been using both fiat and bitcoin with BTC-E, and BTC-E writes that they could release your funds to one of your old addresses. (or use one of your old addresses to authenticate you)

If you have been using fiat with BTC-E, then they should know your real name. They may even know your real address. That information was passed to them automatically with your fiat. (bank account number and name, but also street, city, state, zip and country in some cases...) Did you send them fiat? If yes, how, exactly?

Couldn't you (together) agree to prove your real identity using your bank account, or to release your funds to your bank account instead of one of your old addresses?

That should be much easier than proving ownership of a wallet/email address/skype account that do not exist anymore.

That's interesting... What was the item in question? I have had several chargebacks myself (but I am at another bank). It normally happens a few days after the transaction only, and my bank always called me before returning the money - I think they would not take it from my account without my authorization. (but if I did not authorize, then the account would be blocked pending an investigation) The last time, they invited me for an explanation, and when they were reassured, they sent a "funny" letter to the other bank (a German one, I think) which must have meant something like "everybody take care of their own customers, and all customers will be taken care of better". (PS: I never did anything illegal with my bank account, of course)

Just coming back from a week-end in Ukraine (Poltava) and have not seen any war, bribery or kidnapping. Quite the contrary - I found the people very nice and the city/country seemed fine. (of course things look more difficult than in western europe - and there were many uniforms in the streets - but I felt like it won't stay like that forever) That being said, I think Romanko takes little risk disclosing information about his scammer, nobody is going to go after him for that... But, EvBitcoinFan, if he is right, you are going to face real trouble now and in the future. (for example when you are looking for a new job)

It's not Spanish, it's Dutch

I am with Vod... Promoting all scams BTC is not doing Bitcoin any good.

I... Don't understand all these nonsensical threads. Glen Gamow, FuckIdolPlus...

I second that. FuckIdolPlus, you look quite childish to me... This section is about scam, not spam.

Just stop selling license keys and Vod will stop annoying you

I think I was suggesting following the fiat money trail would lead to you, genius


Hence my suggestion that HBO seeks professional legal advice... Because reality could be much less scary (for him). But only a real lawyer could tell.

I think you would better forget about it, obsession is going to/could harm you... (your health) 5 KUSD is a lot of money, but ultimately, it is not going to kill you.

I believe your police could find him easily (just follow the money trail), but since you haven't/won't fill a complain, it is not going to happen.

I don't understand why neither of you has not yet filed a complaint/pressed charges? (hbo against segvec or printshop against hbo)

Or am I just too naive about where the money comes from?

I am a little but surprised/confused when I read this. Your first message - "the national health card that is an ID in Europe". I am in Europe, and I don't know what a national health card is? But I do have an ID card - and it is not called a national health card. I used OKPay a lot before and I did not have many issues with them. (some payments that were delayed and some orders that failed - but that was always resolved to my entire satisfaction)

I would advise you to check with a lawyer and/or to file a complaint at your local police station. From my experience, they start being quite knowledgeable about cryptocurrencies and internet scams, and of good advice.

I wish you good luck recovering your funds!

I think nobody came forward claiming he/she had been scammed, but HBO provided a list.

I thought Paiza was a scam like Egopay? Both are run by the Patel brothers?

It's amusing to see a scammer (segvec) complain about another scammer (marchernandez)...