Seahawks FTW ... I won't bet too much, just enough to keep the excitement up. 0.1BTC on them.

Why you have no picture of DOGE in your website ?

A slot with DOGE as a paying icon would've been cool

Why not simply use an escrow website until he builds his trust? There is no such thing as a trustworthy person. That trustworthy person must have trust built too .

The only way that he can cheat is to arrange his cards in such a way that the dealer gets a better hand, correct? He could use a different formula for each client seed so that he could twist the cards every time differently based on the client seed. But if the player would know the formula before the gameplay starts, there would be no way to cheat, would it?

In KENO, he could use a different formula for each client seed so that when you selected your numbers, he will arrange the drawn numbers so that there will be no matches and you will never win. But if he would tell you the KENO formula, he could not cheat, because you would be the last one to influence in a known manner the deck, right?

Now let's suppose that his formula is just ONE for each game and it changes every week. Would you say that it's provably fair then?

I am still waiting for the PM. Make me rich tonight.

Is there any provably fair system that you are NOT doubting?

Give me an example of how he could cheat. The man told you the formula. Explain how he can use the formula that he gave to cheat in a card game.


A champion does not accept the challenge of all challengers. A challenger must climb a ladder to challenge the champion. Same thing here ... if every newbie from a forum would doubt a system just because they can, it would mean to waste 9999999 hours to reply to each and one of them and they will still doubt the system. In this case, espringe, you are doing it out of pure evil. The man game you the formula and it is clear that he cannot cheat if the player can set a client seed AFTER the deck was hashed and sent to the player and if he told you how he uses the client seed to influence the initial deck.

So I can make a profit of 61.749% from his games? That means he has an RTP of 161.749%. Teach me master how you do it (PM ME).

There are many online casinos, owned by utterly rich people that prefer to close their business, declare it bankrupt, rather than paying the money to the lucky player that won 25BTC and become less rich by 25BTC. This happened about 6-7 months ago with a bitcoin casino. The owner closed it due to very large payouts. I can't remember its name. What I want to say is that the proof of funds is completely irrelevant.

Since you used an online calculator to verify the RTP of each selection (http://wizardofodds.com/games/keno/calculator/), it's clear that you have no understanding about what an RTP is and how it is calculated. You can't expect to play a few hundreds of gameplays and then get rich. By your logic, if you didn't make a profit, every casino is a scam. Now don't give me that noob reply with "haha. you're dumb" because we already got it that you have no education and you're just a troll that has no life and messes up with other people's time.

To all readers here: this guy "espringe" is just a troll that has no idea what he is even talking. Someone please explain to him how a provably fair system works, because even if he was provided with tons of links and info, he still doesnt get it. He just calls everyone else dumb.

PS: The man (luckybtccasino) just gave you the formula. What's wrong with you? Need glasses? Go see a doctor if you are blind, but stop trolling on this forum just because you're sad and you have no life.

If I try to defend this casino, I cannot be offtopic, because the topic is about the casino. There goes your logic.

The problem is that saying that a casino is a scam, is not something that any kid that didn't finish high school can say.
You need to have some mathematical understanding and a brain, in order to understand what provably fair means and what cheating is.

Since you don't know to spell the verb of "proof", then it means that you don't even know what the term "provably" means (since the verb of "proof" is "to prove" and "provably" derives from "to prove").
It's like asking the maid to solve a college maths problem. She will try, but the chances for her to do it correctly are ~0.000001%
So any post that you would write,would cause other readers to become misguided.

I am not offending or defending anybody, but you started to claim that this casino is a cheat and none of you is able to bring any proof to shut everybody else's mouth.
There were people that said that they won and made a withdrawal.

This is not a topic where anybody that has a keyboard should post, to increase their post count.
I am requesting valid proof, which doesn't exist. What I saw so far are bugs. Show us something to shut everybody's mouth if you want to prove something.

You are the one doing this ... posting offtopic answers just to increase your post count which is barely 15.

Can you learn to type before going into more complex issues such as the validity of this casino?
I don't get it how someone that doesn't know the verb of "proof" talks about "provably" fair and about cheating.

From what you say it looks that the player "cheated" first.
Maybe that is an anti-cheat system? Since the player "cheated" by trying to exploit which rounds to play, maybe the system detected that and "paid him back with a losing hand"? LOL.

I am not sure if it works like that. I'm just saying, because I didn't test.

I bet you don't understand a single action from that video.

+1 ... that's how all casinos make money ... they rely on the player's addiction(emotion).

You have no logic in what you are doing.
All I see is that you reshuffle the deck until the first card a very small one. Card 3.I don't see any proof of cheating, sorry.

Then you click on the second card. The chances for you to pick a second card smaller than 3, exist, so there's nothing wrong there either.

I also see some failed server connections, and an useless access to random.org .

Plenty of methods used by casinos to cheat, can be found here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/

To give you boys some on-topic material, let's focus our attention on a casino that really pissed me off tonight.
A cheat in the face: https://tetraplay.com/blackjack-surrender-3d-game/

I saw my cards being dealt and they arrived in my hand as being K+ACE. Then 0.5 seconds after, the ACE turned into a KING.
Now that is what I call being cheated in the face.

Also, the next hand, the dealer had a BLACKJACK using a 9(nine): http://i57.tinypic.com/1hqm52.jpg
PS: look at my cards ... I may be tired, but even so, 3+5+Q+10 is not equal to 18.

https://tetraplay.com/blackjack-surrender-3d-game/

I saw the cards being dealt, then when they turned I saw a K+ACE. Then 0.5 seconds after, the ACE turned into a KING.

Now that is what I call being cheated in the face.

Also, the dealer had a BLACKJACK using a 9(nine): http://tinypic.com/r/1hqm52/8

I dont know why others are playing on these casinos, but I will tell you why I play casino games.

I dont play casino games to get rich. The biggest amount that I won was 8000$ with an 18$ bet, in a casino that was not very popular and that now closed and had no online reviews, a few years ago. I was one of the first players at that casino.
I play casino games for fun. When I discover a new casino that looks professional and it is functional and has a support team behind AND NEW GAMES, I am on it. I spend some money on playing new games, because if there is no risk, there is no fun. Haha.
When you add the thrill of the win to all this, it gives an unique feeling. But after a while, I get bored of the games, because not all of them are nice, so I look for new games.

Dreamland has nice games, so I don't know if they are cheating or not, but they satisfy my needs, because I also won some money, which I invested back and lost them all. In my opinion, they do not cheat, because they allowed me to withdraw my profit, even if I was fool enough to deposit back and lose all.

For me that is the casino gaming. If I am lucky to also make money, then I save some for my personal needs, and the remaining I spend at other casinos, to get more fun.

Oh and btw, unless a server is monitored 24/7 by a licensing authority, it can always cheat by manipulating its hardware RNG or by reshuffling the game odds "infinite times" or by manipulating the outcome
It would mean to waste weeks of my life and pull a lot of strings to prove to you how AND IF popular casinos (that I dont want to name) are able to cheat. And what would I gain from that? Nothing.
I don't say that someone is cheating, or that everybody is cheating, or that nobody is cheating. All I say is that it is almost impossible to say who is cheating and who is not.

The biggest problem that I experienced was with a casino this year, when I made a deposit, and after I made a profit of 1 BTC, nobody ever replied for my withdrawal. The casino closed itself, after being open maximum 1 month.

So with dreamland, I like their games, I am happy that I won, I am happy managed to withdraw my money, even if I ended in depositing back and losing all of them. That's life. A series of random events, some are positive and some are negative.

Does marketing not work for http://exploitspecialist.com/
And all you could do is blame other websites to promote your own business? That is a cheap strategy ...

We already know how casinos are cheating: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/

We do not need your "beast" marketing skills to promote your own business.

You can't always win or make profit every time you play.

Maybe others can share their experience, to prove to you that you just had an unlucky moment.

The company has some really nice and unique games, and I don't think that a complete solution worth 100k euro is cheap. They have cheap stuff, but if you want to spend money, you have options too.
Playtech and netent charge 200k for a complete solution. But there are so many casinos using their games and I always play at the best and I ignore the others.

Just because casinowebscripts charges less, it doesnt make them cheap, because 100k is not cheap money.
You know ... we are not all as rich as you are. Maybe you can give us some money if you think that 100k is cheap  .

Their games are certified and they are one of the fewest providers that release new games and offer custom game development.
Look at softswiss' bitcoin casinos. They have 30-40 games, but that is the maximum that the provider can give.

You think itechlabs would certify a cheating software? They are a serious company with huge background and they certified only legit software.
There are so many bitcoin casinos out there with in-house games, made by companies with no reputation, that are not certified, that are cheating and nobody writes on forums that they cheat, and you waste time accusing this company for making a mistake in the past, but working twice as hard to fix it after?

All companies had their ups and downs. Casinowebscripts had their downs in 2011 with the "cheating software" scandal, but ever since, they only improved. I am watching them since 2013, because I work at a magazine that posts news from gambling and sports industry.
They got new games, they certified their solution, and they are a top provider today. You might think otherwise from unknown reasons, but it is the truth.

You know, sometimes you have to hit rock-bottom, and only then you realise how much far you have to climb. They had a lot to climb, and they've made it close to the top, above many others, without giving up or changing their company name, like many others did after scandals.
As for other developers, it is concerning to review a company and see that they are flawless, and they have no problems, because that is a lie. Everybody has some issues. At least with Casinowebscripts, we know that what the problems are and now they fixed it, by getting the certifications. They closed everybody's mouth with making the certification possible.



But as far as I remember, this topic was dedicated to dreamlandcasino, not to reviewing casinowebscripts, and I don't think that dreamlandcasino should be held responsible for what the provider did in 2011, almost 4 years ago.

Provably fair means that the program needs to prove to trolls that the concept is fair.
A smart program can trick the trolls, because the trolls are not too smart. If they were smart, they would not troll.
I see many people that probably didn't even finish high school claiming that a website is cheating, that it's a scam, that they are not provably fair, etc. Only bad words I see everywhere.

However, a certified program, that has been tested, verified and has the server files hashed, doesn't need to prove anything. That is how casinos lived and worked for decades. Both online and land based casinos.
Now, some bitcoin newbie started advertising this provably fair concept so much that any business that is not provably fair, is a cheat. FALSE.
Even a provably fair game can be turned to the advantage of the business owner, which makes certifications unbreakable and incontestable.

Was this how everybody was thinking until bitcoin appeared and until the provably fair concept was not mediated so much? I doubt it. People enjoyed casino gaming and trusted the certification that the casino had.
For people that understand randomness, casinos and odds, it is enough to know that the logic of the program was certified.

Trolls need only proof and even then, they will claim that they are being cheated if they are not given millions of bitcoins in prizes.

Some people are here on this forum only to flame, troll, swear. Too bad that there are no rules to get them punished.