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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
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boxraider
on 23/05/2019, 15:08:17 UTC
Hey, guys

Any tips on how to get the tool to make the timing settings stick? What programs are you guys running incl. this tool? I've got afterburner, and amd tweak. It's weird, I have to set my core clock in after burner and then tweak my voltages, memory and one-click timings in amd tweaker. But, 80% of the time itll crash or not apply one-click timings/manual timing changes when im running the same order of operations (weird 20%ish times my one-click will stick and reflect on the timing chart). It seems that I might have a bad card? Im not sure how you guys are able to adjust your timings and having them show up on your charts.

Right now, Im just getting 31mhs rather than crashing my pc 40x and settling for 28mhs (no 1 click timing/manual timing change) because Ive given up for the day lol.

I load PPTs to set clocks, lock to the power states I use while mining (i use cclock 6 and mclock 2 for ETH on polaris), then apply timings w/ amdmemtweak (cli).  Changing to a different state (core or mem) at any point seems to lose the applied timings.

I'm on linux, but I would expect things to be basically the same in Windows...

yeah its weird man, ill restart my pc and fire up amd tweak and phoenixminer, i left amd tweak run and then start mining. I have to set my timings first and then muck with my core/clock or else it wont apply haha. i'll set one click timing and 95% of the time itll revert back to default. when it does apply, ill just back away and try not to crash the pc.  it takes a lot of time for me to get one-click timings to apply let alone custom timings!haha im just curious as why the reason why just me or are others getting this same issue? hopefully my vega56 coming will be diferent! btw thanks Eliovp. youre a saint.
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
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boxraider
on 22/05/2019, 21:33:39 UTC
Hey, guys

Any tips on how to get the tool to make the timing settings stick? What programs are you guys running incl. this tool? I've got afterburner, and amd tweak. It's weird, I have to set my core clock in after burner and then tweak my voltages, memory and one-click timings in amd tweaker. But, 80% of the time itll crash or not apply one-click timings/manual timing changes when im running the same order of operations (weird 20%ish times my one-click will stick and reflect on the timing chart). It seems that I might have a bad card? Im not sure how you guys are able to adjust your timings and having them show up on your charts.

Right now, Im just getting 31mhs rather than crashing my pc 40x and settling for 28mhs (no 1 click timing/manual timing change) because Ive given up for the day lol.
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v14.5 (Windows/Linux)
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boxraider
on 21/05/2019, 04:07:19 UTC
Is there now any way to watch mem errors on nvidia? Because straps brought all the pain from amd tuning, but at least amd reports mem errors which helps a lot to make rigs stable. Now I get to wait 20+ hours just to see one gpu in rig fail and try again.

hey try download HWInfo and when its installed scroll down and look for your gpu settings, its at the bottom of the first gpu box.
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Re: AMD Radeon RX 590 Mining Info 💲⛏ (PBE bios mod✅)
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boxraider
on 16/05/2019, 21:39:25 UTC
just curious i got a fatboy and im getting under 31mhs. i am pretty new to mining so when purchasing this i went for gaming as well as mining but definitely screwed the mining part up.

im at cclock 1349(any lower doesnt affect wattage afaik), 860mv/ 2249mhz memclock, 860mv. im using about 138w with the gpu. ive got one click timing from AMD Tweaker Tool as well.  anyone care to share their specs on the 590?

btw ive got a hynix memory.
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
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boxraider
on 15/05/2019, 15:56:41 UTC
Hello,
I played with tweaking core and memory for RX580 8Gb and 4Gb with hynex mem, but cannot reach an optimal setup with timing.

Isn't possible to do like claymore is doing?

Recognizing the GPU and Memory and than applying a "optimal" tweak ?
If there are enough data from the community for the various cards, would that be possible?

thx
great tool btw !

Hey Ganzo, i did some research and hynix is slower than micron and samsung cards. apparently its a toss-up too, you can get 2 MSI brand graphics card of exact model and make and it could end up a hynix and samsung mix. to me that just means economics at the foundries. sucks for us!  Cry im getting 25mhs with underclock and undervolt. i barely overclocked mine, just in case hynix cant operate at a higher frequency than samsung/micron cards. CoreClock 1146mhz/860mv. MemClock 2050, pulling 109w + 16w. Could anyone tell me that this is as good as i can get it given that its a hynix?

But i am planning on buying a radeon vii and was wondering since its a Vega II, would the Vega strap work on this tool?? Thanks guys!

I know Hynex is not the best but I got to 31 Mh/s, so wanted to see if the AMD Tweak tool increase that.

It would be good if the tool does what Claymore has, like a DB for common cards, with some "optimal" / "baseline" strap and than one can tweak it some more based on OC and cards differences, for example silicon!

Hopefully we get there with the tool


Hey ganzo, I had 31mhs going for a minute and tried a small 5mv undervolt and it crashed. I'm not able to get back to the same hash rate as before.. and was wondering how you got yours up to 31mhs so i can replicate it? I had my orders of operation down on paper but it just seemed to be fussy with me.  Angry

But, does anyone know what i am doing wrong when im trying to change my tRFC settings from base 219 to any setting and itll just revert back to 219. I've check my HWinfo and it says my tRFC is at 467T. I'm trying to bring it down but its way up. I am using the win gui version and am a little retarded, and dont know how to use the cli version. (pardon my french)
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 14/05/2019, 19:22:00 UTC
Hello,
I played with tweaking core and memory for RX580 8Gb and 4Gb with hynex mem, but cannot reach an optimal setup with timing.

Isn't possible to do like claymore is doing?

Recognizing the GPU and Memory and than applying a "optimal" tweak ?
If there are enough data from the community for the various cards, would that be possible?

thx
great tool btw !

Hey Ganzo, i did some research and hynix is slower than micron and samsung cards. apparently its a toss-up too, you can get 2 MSI brand graphics card of exact model and make and it could end up a hynix and samsung mix. to me that just means economics at the foundries. sucks for us!  Cry im getting 25mhs with underclock and undervolt. i barely overclocked mine, just in case hynix cant operate at a higher frequency than samsung/micron cards. CoreClock 1146mhz/860mv. MemClock 2050, pulling 109w + 16w. Could anyone tell me that this is as good as i can get it given that its a hynix?

But i am planning on buying a radeon vii and was wondering since its a Vega II, would the Vega strap work on this tool?? Thanks guys!
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 13/05/2019, 19:31:11 UTC
Is there any solution for the non ref 56 cards that have a default of 800 mem and can’t go past 900-950?


I got four of these crap cards any thoughts ? Three are red devil 56 power colors and one is a sapphire pulse

Memory tweak isn't exactly working for me so this isn't fully optimized yet as I can only experiment in the rare cases when it happens to work after a reboot. However, the following seems to be working great for me with such cards (assuming samsung mem).

Doesn't affect stability at all, no errors, adds 200 h/s give or take per card on XMR. It is just a variation of the stock. I hope it helps.

Code:
--RAS 20 --RCDRD 13 --RCDWR 6  --RC 37 --RP 12 --RRDS 4 --RRDL 5 --RFC 208 --REF 15600



im having the same issue. I had my timings changed just to the preset level 1 but now its at default. it'll just say timing level 1 or 2 depending on what i change it to but it wont show up on the timing inputs on the left side. Still curious on how to address this problem, been using wattman for timing preset changes and it will do the exact same thing but not change my timings when i pull up AMDTweak
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Correct Order Of Operations To Get Optimal Hashrate
by
boxraider
on 13/05/2019, 17:48:55 UTC
Hey guys, I'm new to mining and have a rx590 fatboy which WAS mining at 31.5mhs but i was trying to lower the voltage a hair and she crashed on me. Tried to do the same thing from last night and now im back to 27mhs. I have no friggin clue why my One-Click-Memory wont register. It'll say applied and all that but when i pull up AMD Tweaker Tool to see my actual CAS timings, etc, itll read stock, but timing will say setting :1 (0 - Default). Any clue as to how im getting sometimes able to get 30+ mhs but most of the time its 27-28mhs.
Memclock - 2200-2300mh, 850mv
Coreclock - 1200mhs, 850mv

I'd like to get this operation to properly work consistently, and quite frankly its frustrating being given a tool to make it better but unable to make it work for me. Huh
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 13/05/2019, 02:39:55 UTC
You don't need 1360MHz at all for your core clock, usually with Polaris miners set the core clock at 1150MHz and undervolt as much as possible (around 850mV).

I have been trying to but it gets real glitchy. I've see. Much lower core settings but haven't been able to get it lower than 1360-1400mhz/950-970mv

Is it because my clocks set too high? Most people set it to 2300 and mines at 2500. I wont be able to get near 30mhs without boosting my clock speed unfortunately. Not to mention I'm SOL on timing for now (keeps reverting)

Edit: Iamtuut - just did a restart its picking up now. I got it down to 950mv. Afterburner wont read my 880mv setting. Hwimonitor also! I noticed something about the AMD tweaker tool. No mining running off a fresh restart will have RFC timing of 43 but when she starts mining itll jump to 219. That's normal right? Just curious as to how this tool operates in sequence lol I'm super finicky/dumb when it comes to trying to learn channels or flow.

Yes rfc will jump up once the card is active.
Apply you timing edits once the card is running. You should be able to drop you rfc quite a lot.
Also try rc lower most of my rx cards go down to between 56-64

I cant get the dang thing to stick except for once. It was an anomaly on my part. I tried to redo the same method to get in my rfc to stay and my other timing stuff but it would either crash or just not apply. When it did apply I was able to get 31~mhs with close to optimal wattage and hashrate

Edit: btw, i know i re edit alot but, I've found my solution towards the XFX Fatboy RX 590. I just used wattman with after burner. Over clock first on afterburner then lower voltage on wattman (core voltage wasnt giving me an option to lower it) but thanks to you guys on this thread specifically!
I got my 31.8-9mhs from mclock-2255, mcore 855, cclock-1300, ccore 855 finally with 136w It's not the tested 32.4mhs but I'm sure buddy stated 140w for that .5mhz extra. But thanks to you guys for putting in some effort to teaching me. I'll try to post helpful shit for anyone that might find it useful.  Grin
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 12/05/2019, 22:05:21 UTC
Iamtutut: Core at 1150MHz and 850mV if you can.
Try to lower you memory voltage to 900mV.


Gosh darn I figured so. Well it's been a couple hours and I dropped a few settings around to get a lower hash but I'll try to figure something out. 28mhs on 2300mhz mem clock 950 mv, 1090mhz clock 950mv.
I've seen settings like mine that was getting 32mhs. I am running from my gaming PC and was wondering if my setup was the reason I'm not fully optimized?

Core at 1150MHz and 850mV if you can.
Try to lower you memory voltage to 900mV.

Core voltage of 850mv doesn't do anything if you have mem voltage at 900mv.  That just means you will run core at 900mv.

To OP - 2300mhz mem is super high, and it's probably going to be hard undervolting significantly at that frequency.  With <=1300mhz core and <=2200mhz mem (could be lower depending on timing straps), you should be able to get to <850mv.  I have a nitro 590 (w/ micron mem & timing straps updated in bios) running at 1280 cclock, 2200 mclock, 837mv for 32.7MH/s.  Windows 10, early 19.x driver.  Samsung should be able to do similar (tho not w/ one-click PBE 'ubermix' straps), hynix probably 1-2MH/s less.

Great! thanks guys it was a simple memory voltage issue, i wasnt lowering that along with my core. Voltage is going down now. I've noticed that i lose hash power with a lower core clock.. am I seeing this correctly? Isn't ethash memory intensive? Then I'm jw why im getting higher hashrates as I slowly raise my core clock. Still, I'll take your guys advice and settings over mine any day.
Also, kind of a noob question but, I have a XFX Fatboy Rx590 so Im not sure what that last part meant. So, my CoreClock is  1350 still (lower I drop it the lower hash im getting), 880 mv. MemClock 2246mhz, 880mv. Basically have two problems achieving ultimate efficiency status, one being im unable to edit my timing on the left side, but i am able to use preset on AMDTweakTool, and secondly, my CC/MC relevant to my hash rate. Basically I want your settings..
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 12/05/2019, 14:46:46 UTC
You don't need 1360MHz at all for your core clock, usually with Polaris miners set the core clock at 1150MHz and undervolt as much as possible (around 850mV).

I have been trying to but it gets real glitchy. I've see. Much lower core settings but haven't been able to get it lower than 1360-1400mhz/950-970mv

Is it because my clocks set too high? Most people set it to 2300 and mines at 2500. I wont be able to get near 30mhs without boosting my clock speed unfortunately. Not to mention I'm SOL on timing for now (keeps reverting)

Edit: Iamtuut - just did a restart its picking up now. I got it down to 950mv. Afterburner wont read my 880mv setting. Hwimonitor also! I noticed something about the AMD tweaker tool. No mining running off a fresh restart will have RFC timing of 43 but when she starts mining itll jump to 219. That's normal right? Just curious as to how this tool operates in sequence lol I'm super finicky/dumb when it comes to trying to learn channels or flow.

Yes rfc will jump up once the card is active.
Apply you timing edits once the card is running. You should be able to drop you rfc quite a lot.
Also try rc lower most of my rx cards go down to between 56-64

My rfc was stock 219 but now its sitting at 192. I guess it can change, as I noticed my timing settings changed to 1 instead of default 0. Ill try option 2 but I still can't make my settings stick, just for core and mem clocking/volting. Im curious to see if my timing levels can change my hash rate. Ive opted for a lower hashrate with 0 mem error and had it running overnight and seemed ok. im going to start over clocking and wait for any mem errors.
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 11/05/2019, 22:12:43 UTC
You don't need 1360MHz at all for your core clock, usually with Polaris miners set the core clock at 1150MHz and undervolt as much as possible (around 850mV).

I have been trying to but it gets real glitchy. I've see. Much lower core settings but haven't been able to get it lower than 1360-1400mhz/950-970mv

Is it because my clocks set too high? Most people set it to 2300 and mines at 2500. I wont be able to get near 30mhs without boosting my clock speed unfortunately. Not to mention I'm SOL on timing for now (keeps reverting)

Have you tried with this software ? Now I'm using stock bioses on my 570s and I can underclock the core. If it's not working try with Afterburner or Overdriventool.
Etash is memory intensive, get your mem speed as high as you can as long as you're not using much electrcity. At 2140MHz I set the memory voltage at 850mV, with your higher speed try 1000mV then lower by steps of 10mV and see which lowest possible value is stable for hours.

Ok thanks man! Right now she's steady at 2300 mhz mem clock at 950mv, 1100 mhz core at 920mv. Lowering my core voltage to 800-900mv was applied on AMD tweaker tool but not recognized on afterburner nor hwinfo. It read it at 950mv regardless of the lowered setting. Does this mean it did not work??

Most probably it did not work. Afterburner can read the proper voltage.

Gosh darn I figured so. Well it's been a couple hours and I dropped a few settings around to get a lower hash but I'll try to figure something out. 28mhs on 2300mhz mem clock 950 mv, 1090mhz clock 950mv.
I've seen settings like mine that was getting 32mhs. I am running from my gaming PC and was wondering if my setup was the reason I'm not fully optimized?
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 11/05/2019, 19:19:56 UTC
You don't need 1360MHz at all for your core clock, usually with Polaris miners set the core clock at 1150MHz and undervolt as much as possible (around 850mV).

I have been trying to but it gets real glitchy. I've see. Much lower core settings but haven't been able to get it lower than 1360-1400mhz/950-970mv

Is it because my clocks set too high? Most people set it to 2300 and mines at 2500. I wont be able to get near 30mhs without boosting my clock speed unfortunately. Not to mention I'm SOL on timing for now (keeps reverting)

Have you tried with this software ? Now I'm using stock bioses on my 570s and I can underclock the core. If it's not working try with Afterburner or Overdriventool.
Etash is memory intensive, get your mem speed as high as you can as long as you're not using much electrcity. At 2140MHz I set the memory voltage at 850mV, with your higher speed try 1000mV then lower by steps of 10mV and see which lowest possible value is stable for hours.

Ok thanks man! Right now she's steady at 2300 mhz mem clock at 950mv, 1100 mhz core at 950mv. Lowering my core voltage to 800-900mv was applied on AMD tweaker tool but not recognized on afterburner nor hwinfo. It read it at 950mv regardless of the lowered setting. Does this mean it did not work??
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 11/05/2019, 18:41:26 UTC
You don't need 1360MHz at all for your core clock, usually with Polaris miners set the core clock at 1150MHz and undervolt as much as possible (around 850mV).

I have been trying to but it gets real glitchy. I've see. Much lower core settings but haven't been able to get it lower than 1360-1400mhz/950-970mv

Is it because my clocks set too high? Most people set it to 2300 and mines at 2500. I wont be able to get near 30mhs without boosting my clock speed unfortunately. Not to mention I'm SOL on timing for now (keeps reverting)

Edit: Iamtuut - just did a restart its picking up now. I got it down to 950mv. Afterburner wont read my 880mv setting. Hwimonitor also! I noticed something about the AMD tweaker tool. No mining running off a fresh restart will have RFC timing of 43 but when she starts mining itll jump to 219. That's normal right? Just curious as to how this tool operates in sequence lol I'm super finicky/dumb when it comes to trying to learn channels or flow.
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 11/05/2019, 18:08:27 UTC

thanks for your great tool!

I have one rig it cannot change the any values by your tool

C:\Users\G4560\Desktop\AMT\CLI>WinAMDTweak.exe --i 0 --rfc 175
Successfully applied new RFC settings to GPU 0.

C:\Users\G4560\Desktop\AMT\CLI>WinAMDTweak.exe --i 0 --current
GPU 0:  Baffin [Radeon RX 550 640SP / RX 560/560X]
PMG:      CKSRE: 2        CKSRX: 2        CKE_PULSE: 10   CKE: 10         SEQ_IDLE: 7
CAS:      CL: 22          W2R: 16         R2R: 5          CCLD: 2         R2W: 27         NOPR: 0         NOPW: 0
RAS:      RC: 65          RRD: 6          RCDRA: 24       RCDR: 24        RCDWA: 19       RCDW: 19
MISC:     RFC: 178        TRP: 24         RP_RDA: 27      RP_WRA: 58
MISC2:    WDATATR: 0      T32AW: 0        CRCWL: 25       CRCRL: 3        FAW: 0          PA2WDATA: 0     PA2RDATA: 0
M3(MR4):          RAS: 41
DRAM1:    RASMACTWR: 9    RASMACTRD: 5    ACTWR: 0        ACTRD: 4
DRAM2:    RAS2RAS: 21     RP: 7   WRPLUSRP: 13    BUS_TURN: 9

both cli and gui version have the same problem, the cards was 8 rx 550 4gb micron memory

win10 64, 1607, change several drivers 18.6.1 19.4.X 19.3.X, default or mod bios are the same,

all the same, just can not change any value, when i apply, they just restore to default value, any ideas?

of course, I did it when the rig was mining. I found the bios only have 1500 strap, nothing above the 1500, is it the reason? how to fix it?

That sounds very similar to the issue I'm having, only difference is I usually get no readings from the cards, that's on vegas though. Any value I try to change resets to zero the moment I hit apply too.

The other thing is sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't in my case. I have also noticed it may work at first, enough to set my timings, but if I close the GUI and reopen it I'm back to zero readings and not being able to change anything. Previously set timings stick of course, unless I reboot.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for as this is apparently a rare issue (assuming it is the same issue), but do you see any similarities in our systems? Mine is an older AMD 4 core CPU with an on-board HD 8330, single 4GB stick of DDR3, Win10x64 updated to latest a few days ago. I only use PPT, OverdriveNTool and HWinfo64 to monitor and control the cards and I always install AMD drivers without Wattman/AMD settings or anything. This is a dedicated miner so not much else is installed in terms of software.



I'm going to ditto this as well. I am new to mining again, but have been trying to catch up with the knowledge.
My XFX RX590 is getting 31mh/s with no timing change as it just reverts back to stock. I am able to get mem clock 2500mhz, 950mv and core clock 1360mhz, 950mv with under 140w from the core and chip.

This is my PC btw not dedicated so my guess is that it should be slower than a mining rig, which I'm accounting for in the realm of not trying to blow up my PC. I've seen lower settings with higher hash rates, but I'm trying to stay conservative for now. It's been 3 days of mining so far and I'm enjoying it for now.. (enter Murphy's law)

Edit. And it crashed..
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v14.0 (Windows/Linux)
by
boxraider
on 10/05/2019, 23:41:13 UTC
Hey Claymore,

I'm pretty dang confused about some pretty basic stuff. I'm not sure if this means i am connected to stratum or not but,

[[ETH: Stratum - connecting to 'us2.ethpool.org' <172.65.214.179> port 3333 (unsecure)
ETH: Stratum - Connected (us2.ethpool.org:3333) (unsecure)]]

ive changed the ports to 4444 and 14444 on ethpool but couldnt connect

Been on it for a few days, but can't seem to connect to the stratum port.

any suggestions on where to punch in stratum+ssl://? tried it in config, epools, .bat or if what im doing is so backwards lol
thanks guys
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Re: AMD Mem Tweak - Read/modify mem timings on the fly - [Vega Friendly] [Win/Linux]
by
boxraider
on 09/05/2019, 23:11:54 UTC
Hey im kinda new to mining. things have changed since but i was wondering how you configured your amd rx570? i tried using the settings but am having a hard time getting results. im at 28mhz but cant seem to get it passed that.

also, whenever i try to change and apply my new timing settings itll revert back and also show zero change in hash?
little confuzzled here

thanks guys

heres a screen shot

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tsaavp0mnsug2ub/miningamd.jpg?dl=0

*edit: im basically trying to undersdtand if the software stays in the newly changed settings or does it revert back to its original settings because of bad inputs? im really confused haha sorry guys, really noob question.  Smiley