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We have a history here since November, 2017. This is not a new project. We have a lot of investors in this project chiming in and adding their experience and opinions which happen to be overwhelming positive! Very rare to find. Very rare in crypto.
Same old story. Some guy screaming as loud as he can. Needs to be heard. Same old story. We heard it all before.
There was a project called Nucleus Token that scammed people so this is a scam.
After the ICO you will never hear from Jordan again.
He is working alone without a team and will never be able to build anything.
There is no way he will deliver the platform as promised.
Staking will not happen, it can't happen with a Waves token.
We heard it all before and it was all dead wrong.
Personally, I don't care if Jordan has had past success or failures. It was Mark Cuban who correctly stated, you only need to be right once. Your greatest failures lead to your greatest successes.
What do I care about is what he has done over these past several months which is simply outstanding and mind boggling. He proves himself every day. That is why I support him so strongly.
Let's be real. The guy ran a hugely successful ICO and raised a bunch of capital. We are talking over a million dollars. If he was scamming anyone he would had disappeared happily a long time. He would not be on the front lines every day working as hard as he does and producing results over and over again.
I have invested in over a dozen ICOs over the last year. Not one founder has come close to producing the results Jordan has. Not one team has worked as hard. Not one team communicates as constantly or stands by what they promise. Actually some of them have exited and the others are simply dead or rarely heard from. None are active as this one is. None deliver like Jordan does. I have the utmost respect and admiration for him.
Great points Kygo, there have been plenty of times where they could have cashed out. Plenty of points where people tried their hardest to destroy the project and drastically dropped the price. Jordan could have cashed out but instead he took the funds and invested them elsewhere within the project to strengthen the BGB program. I dont think anyone has the slightest clue on what it cost to bring Noah the developer on board and for him to work. Hes doesnt do this for charity, but this man has given every ounce of his being to ensure the web development l, ease of access and most importantly the security of BGB is of the upmost standards. A lot of people dont agree with Jordans decisions and get angry and destructive when their thoughts and suggestions are dismissed. This is where the majority of FUD comes from. A whinny bunch of cry babies who cant get enough attention or their ideas are unheard or dismissed. And you know what, Ill be that guy who calls them out and challenges them to an intelligent conversation here.
If you had a bot that works reliably and increase your income steadily what is the idea to share it with others? You would be much smarter if you used it yourself.
THIS is spot on. if you have a system that gives you an edge in the market over other participants you dont share it. the creator of this project has been persistant for over a decade to sell the public that his FOREX systems are profitable. all of them has failed.
Regardless of this project Im just pointing out that the creator of NCL has habitually failed the public and lost them money over time. He heavily promoted Bitconnect to all his followers and lost everything. Its a major red flag.
There is NOT 100% transparency here. Jordan wipes out all previous history of his failed projects. his MYFXBOOK systems are all gone from previous years.
BE VERY CAREFUL INVESTING WITH A KNOWN SCAMMER. Anyone who sells his followers on Bitconnect should never ever EVER be trusted to give out financial advice or sell securities for the rest of his life. its sickening to know how much money he has pocketed from membership and referral fees while his followers lose EVERTYING. Scammers gonna scam. Jordan will always find a new way to sell a "profitable system" to the public. dont be fooled here. his past history is erased from the internet for a reason
Please explain how keeping this bot private would be the smarter choice when others do not have source code. Please see above comments and expand your train of thought. It would be nice to have a conversation since you havent replied to a single comment yet. We definitely welcome challenging arguments but please partake in discussions and not just post and dash.
If you had a bot that works reliably and increase your income steadily what is the idea to share it with others? You would be much smarter if you used it yourself.
Just curious why you think that would smarter? Even if you were using it for personal use only, what negative effect on your investment would sharing it with others would you see? It wouldnt change your return percentages, they couldnt change your bot settings. By creating a platform around the trading bot people not only get the benefit of bot returns but also those of token appreciation. So in theory its not smarter to only use the bot for yourself and only shows that youre greedy and unwilling to help others. (This isnt saying you are greedy just those in general who would not allow others to use a bot)
You want to give away your wealth to others that's cool. What if someone among those using your bot is greedy? Is there anything you do to make sure that the right ones benefit from your altruism? If you don't, all your words are nothing but hot air. Run your bot, make a lot of money with it and donate it to people in need. Does that sound better to you?
I dont understand how I would be giving away wealth. So I own a bot and you cant see the source code. I make 2k a month using my bot. I have an idea, if I rent my bot for $100 a month to each person I will maybe X amount. The customer can now make a profit using my algo, I still make 2k a month plus $100 x amount of customers. I did not give away my wealth, I actually gained profit from my bot. If common logic is hot air Ill take it and if this doesnt make sense then I guess you can keep licking windows.
If you had a bot that works reliably and increase your income steadily what is the idea to share it with others? You would be much smarter if you used it yourself.
Just curious why you think that would smarter? Even if you were using it for personal use only, what negative effect on your investment would sharing it with others would you see? It wouldnt change your return percentages, they couldnt change your bot settings. By creating a platform around the trading bot people not only get the benefit of bot returns but also those of token appreciation. So in theory its not smarter to only use the bot for yourself and only shows that youre greedy and unwilling to help others. (This isnt saying you are greedy just those in general who would not allow others to use a bot)
with so many AI trading platforms being introduced lately, how can you compete with them? how can you sell this quick to a potential investor in few words?
Thats a really good question. As stated just above if there is no verification then its not competition. One of the other key benefits that should be know is that you are in a sense safe from crypto market tanks. If you were to spend bitcoin on say XRP and the market crashes you are going to get hit hard. If you dropped 1 BTC into ripple it may take a long time before you ever see 1 BTC again. Its never about a dollar amount but rather protecting the total amount of BTC you hold. Im BGB you invest 1 BTC and at the end of your term you will receive back your BTC +\- Bot performance. By the time your term is up the value of bitcoin may have increased as well.
I am familiar with the creator of this project so I felt like chiming in here finally. Jordan has run Forex trading signals groups for over a decade. paid groups that all fizzled out because his systems failed. He changing systems constantly over the years and attempts to share them with the public by charging memberships. Its NEVER worked out.
His latest attempt to make money off others was Bitconnect. he promoted it HEAVILY through his paid groups and had many youtube videos telling everyone how great it was and hoping everyone used his referral code. He no doubt made a lot of money off his followers and then Bitconnect went belly up because it was a clear and obvious scam
Jordan has now figured out the latest way to capitalize on Crypto lending platforms, by making his own Coin. dont make any mistake here this is another LENDING platform just like Bitconnect. this NCL project relies on new money to invest in to his "trading bot" to pay out gains for earlier investors. it certainly seems to be very ponzi-ish
Time will tell how this plays out but BE VERY CAREFUL investing here. he keeps making new threads here on this forum as well which is very suspicious. he's trying to filter out anyone revealing his past history in trading FOREX. he is not a successful trader and this NCL lending platform is only going to be profitable if you think he will be a successful trader. Previous comments are spot on, that any professional with a legit winning system would not share it with the public. Jordan has been attempting to make money off the public with different trading systems for over 10+ years.
BE CAREFUL HERE. his first attempt with NCL trading bot failed already and he suspiciously deleted the 3rd party tracking for it and started over just recently
His latest attempt to make money off others was Bitconnect. he promoted it HEAVILY through his paid groups and had many youtube videos telling everyone how great it was and hoping everyone used his referral code. He no doubt made a lot of money off his followers and then Bitconnect went belly up because it was a clear and obvious scam
Jordan has now figured out the latest way to capitalize on Crypto lending platforms, by making his own Coin. dont make any mistake here this is another LENDING platform just like Bitconnect. this NCL project relies on new money to invest in to his "trading bot" to pay out gains for earlier investors. it certainly seems to be very ponzi-ish
Time will tell how this plays out but BE VERY CAREFUL investing here. he keeps making new threads here on this forum as well which is very suspicious. he's trying to filter out anyone revealing his past history in trading FOREX. he is not a successful trader and this NCL lending platform is only going to be profitable if you think he will be a successful trader. Previous comments are spot on, that any professional with a legit winning system would not share it with the public. Jordan has been attempting to make money off the public with different trading systems for over 10+ years.
BE CAREFUL HERE. his first attempt with NCL trading bot failed already and he suspiciously deleted the 3rd party tracking for it and started over just recently
This shows just how little you know about the project. Its ok to be sceptical of a project, but do yourself a favor and do some actual research.
1. You may be familiar with him yes. You may have read the negative reviews from a record he was trying to break. This extremely high risk trading he was doing was made known to the partipants.
2. I personally have not seen anything regarding Jordan in regards to bitconnect and Im not sure there is or has been anything. (Videos, posts or anything looking for referrals). He did however say that the person or people behind the creation of bitconnect were smart. They had a genius idea of using an automated trading bot to generate funds for investors. Even though they didnt have proof of a trading bot, it was the concept of having and using one that he found brilliant.
3. This is by far the farthest from the truth as you can get. New money is not needed to pay out individuals returns. The bots payouts are soley based on when you happened to invest in the both and how the forex pairs trade during your 28 day term. One month you may get 11% the next maybe just 2%.
4. The algorithm was changed, the community was informed and all funds that were invested in the old algorithm were transferred. Only an uneducated and unreasonable business owner would refuse the make and accept changes that are for the better of the business.
I discovered this business during it's infancy in November of 2017, at the time it was only a small spark of an idea but had so much potential in an untapped section of the crypto market. It launched on the Waves Platform without a hitch and was finally on the road to becoming a reality. Jordan and Bitcoin Growth Bot was a revolutionary step in the trading bot era. This bot was actually 100% verified by a 3rd party application and was transparent. Jordan's transparency I feel was the keystone to the projects success. You can have a great idea but without the transparency you really have nothing but doubts and uncertainties. Around January all of the lending Ponzi's started falling one by one until most were gone, the crypto market came crashing down shortly after, negativity and fud was everywhere but BGB held strong. Sure the waters were rough at times, there were and are those who try to intentionally destroy the project, yet Jordan, BGB, and most importantly the outstanding community have held our heads high and marched on. There is so much more to come with the project, every few weeks there is a new development released that drastically improves the overall quality of the project. For those that are on the fence I suggest talking to the community and as always research, research, research. The payouts have already started at a reasonable and sustainable rate.
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
and now it does appear you created 2 bitcoin talk accounts
In case he tries to edit the messages. - here's an archived link where the same message from his fake account was made (see posts #366 & #367): https://web.archive.org/web/20171227221912/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2430121.msg27066300
Both of you have account that were made in the last few months
. I'm not invested in the project - a Pajeet likely yourself or Mr. Lindsey tried to shill me on this coin. I'm not going anywhere, Mr. Lindsey 
. By all means, I've been here for 4 years - I didn't post for some time because I was Goxxed, so was inactive, although I have an aversion for scammers 
. Cute that all the 2-3 month old accounts (as well as the alt accounts Mr. Lindsey uses) try to accuse others of what he/them are doing themselves If Mr. Lindsey can adequately answer these questions - I'll gladly rest my case. My questions are pretty simple for any reputable CEO of an honest company to answer. You keep shilling, and not answering my questions, and I'll keep asking
1) What are your credentials? What is your background? What school did you go to? Why should people trust you?
2) Why do you think your bot will work in the future? Why do you think your 10% gain will be consistent when your past performance has shown to be nothing like that? Do you think that a 10% return per month or CLAIMED ~300% return for the year on a high risk, sketchy, unknown coin is good considering that holding bitcoin, litecoin, etc. will 2-4x in a year reliably?
3) Why should anyone use your FOREX trading bot when Forex has been known for being a sketch market for years especially compared to the cryptocurrency market?
4) Why should anyone believe your bot will consistently return >10% when in the past you have promised up to 2000% gains, and then lost clients' money. NOT on one occasion, but on at least a dozen if not more?
5) If you believe in your bot's performance, why don't you have a MyFxBook account so that people can audit your past trades? Wink
6) Why do you ban people/remove comments in Facebook or Telegram that are critical?
7) Why do you hide the physical address of your company and why is it located outside of the US despite the fact you live in California?
8 ) Why was the domain name registered just a month ago, and now you've suddenly done an ICO?
The trading bot is operational and is showing signs of where it needs to be to sustain a growth rate of 7-12% (https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nucleus/bitcoin-growth-bot/2358348). History of trades won and lost/open trades are also accessible. Trading on crypto markets is board-line moronic as the volatility is probably 10 times higher than the Forex market. So what if he's had some failed ventures in the past? Failure is the greatest teacher. I've also been in the telegram group since its inception and the only posts I've seen deleted are those regarding other projects. I am following day to day activities with NCL as I've invested in this project and I've yet to see any signs of deceptive behaviour. When the platform goes live, appreciation of the token will be inevitable and your blind hatred will have caused you to miss the boat.
My main account since you're choosing to act like a child:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=200101
By all means post in this thread with your other account if you claim it's from 4 years ago. Sorry, but Forex is a shit market. Everyone knows that. Comments are removed on Facebook that are not positive.
LMAO - "missed the boat on a Forex coin" - despite being in the biggest cryptocurrency boom ever. Thanks for the joke.
You, Mr. Lindsey, or any other shill/alt can derail the thread. When Mr. Lindsey answers the questions I mentioned from above, I'll rest my case. Mr. Lindsey - simple question - where is your company located? What is the physical address of it? Don't you think clients should know where your business is operated?
Its registered in Belize but ran out of San Fransisco
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[quote author=theshazbot link=topic=2430121.msg26643966#msg26643966 dateAnother brand new account. You're not fooling anyone. It's clear you're trying to spread confusion, and FUD on this thread. You severely underestimate the intelligence of readers on here. And for the record, none of my posts, nor ever, have I extorted anyone - nor am I Australian LOL. Nice try though. The CEO, Jordan Lindsey, as mentioned on the first page, and the posts beforehand (as well as the Facebook page), all show clearly that it's a clear scam.
By all means - create another 20 alts - no one's going to buy your junk coin, bud.
By all means - create another 20 alts - no one's going to buy your junk coin, bud.
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Hey shaz my account was not just created. And youve never been vetted. You accused the founder of starting a thread and for it to be closed in which he never started. Great work!
Youre calling the guy scam yet he is doing everything stand up. Who burns tokens after cancelling an ICO if they are scamming anyone. Think about it. The guy would had disappeared. In the end you are going to look like a fool. But I suppose you could since you hide behind theshazbot meanwhile Jordan is not hiding about who he is. My money is on this project and you just creating FUD thinking you are a hero. The shazbot!
Youre calling the guy scam yet he is doing everything stand up. Who burns tokens after cancelling an ICO if they are scamming anyone. Think about it. The guy would had disappeared. In the end you are going to look like a fool. But I suppose you could since you hide behind theshazbot meanwhile Jordan is not hiding about who he is. My money is on this project and you just creating FUD thinking you are a hero. The shazbot!
I actually am vetted on this forum. Email address is the same, my trade history, accounts, etc. are all the same as they were four years ago. That's rich that a bunch of brand new accounts with less than 1-3 posts are shilling hard for a guy with a bad, bad reputation.
You also accused someone else on reddit of being this "Australian guy" too 2-3 weeks ago. LOL. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20171220065706/https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitconnect/comments/7f5xbo/scam_alert_bitcoin_growth_bot_a_brand_new_lending/dqjtfqv/
I think the fact that by simply typing Jordan Lindsey on google these three links pop up are pretty potent. I've noticed Jordan and his alt army conveniently ignore them:
1) http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-reviews/387/www.jcls-forex.com
2) http://www.tradebinaryoptionsrobot.com/blog-aggressive-gains-review-a-scam-by-jordan-lindsey
3) https://www.valforex.com/2017/09/aggressive-returns-review-a-scam-by-jordan-lindsey.html
You also delete posts on Facebook, as well as trying to manipulate public opinion on here. But again, waste of time - no one one here is that gullible.
I'm a joke because I showed the 3 links above show this guy is a con-artist? Nice one, Jordan or Jordan's associate.
Dude chillex! I'm interested in the project and I don't have 20 posts. I have put money down and I'm willing to see if Jordan is bluffing or not. Let people decide for themselves. Coming here spamming the shit out of this thread is not looking good for you. Get in. Make your point. And chill the F#$% out!
The competitor has no trading bot to show for. This is a transparent project. You can't put a price on that.
Funny how you also posted in this reddit thread (archived so it can't be deleted), and sound like a paid supporter of Jordan. And for anyone reading about this junk coin - there are better trading bots i.e. Gunbot, trader daddy, etc.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171220065706/https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitconnect/comments/7f5xbo/scam_alert_bitcoin_growth_bot_a_brand_new_lending/dqjtfqv/
You're a pathetic joke, sorry.
Funny how the same 2-3 people (you, Kygo, and Vinay9) keep shilling this turd.
500 NCL = 0.03042 BTC USD 570.2
Current price of coin is lower than pre pre ICO price, We this cant be another Davor?
Current price of coin is lower than pre pre ICO price, We this cant be another Davor?
So you mean the price is around $1.14/NCL token? Looks like volume is pretty low too and a bunch of bag holders now.
Note: To anyone: Go through the entire thread and besides the links mentioned above that Jordan conveniently ignores, deleting posts on Facebook, threatening to arrest LOL, etc., it's easy to find that the same 3-5 "new users" keep vigorously defending this scam coin. Classic exit scam. Not that it matters some bagholders looking to sell this scamcoin as price has fallen. I honestly would not be surprised if Jordan is just using the different users to create false volume.
Thanks for your opinion, we get it and got it days ago. You think its a scam, weve all gathered that. You mentioned the same reviews over and over and over again. Same links, same time frame, same reviews just on a different site. The thread you are claiming he tried to get removed was not even request by him, it was also what a year ago? Yes there are bag holders, thats what serious investors in an ICO do who are not trying to pump and dump. The price has actually been relatively stable after the initial ICO hype died a bit. I have not seen or noticed a deleted Facebook comment so I really cant even comment on this myself. You say this is a classic exit scam, could you provide details and a direct comparison between this owner and his company specifically bitcoin growth bit against others companies that have exited with all funds. Please dont use examples like bitpite or companies who just disappeared and nobody knew who the owner was. I would like specific examples of how Jordan and the owner a scam company that disappeared are similar. This should be an easy task since its classic and all.
Another user who registered a few days ago. Classic. "We" = Jordan and his associates (and referrals). Jordan & co conveniently ignore the abundance of negative information online LOL.
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I have not seen or noticed a deleted Facebook comment so I really cant even comment on this myself.
Easy: https://i.snag.gy/u0ZjVT.jpg
Facebook group doesn't allow discussion - and censors anything
. Of course, no one would see it because they're removed/hidden as seen in the picture above.The proof is already in the pudding. The onus of proof isn't on myself - it's on Jordan. to address these major red flags which of course he can't, nor will he convinceably.
Also, for the record, Jordan - you keep bumping this crap coin on this forum - I'll respond here as much as I need. Fortunately, you have no control over discussions here. LOL.
I do admit yes I am new here (not sure why you keep bringing this up to everyone) Fair enough on the facebook post, again all I was asking for for some type of substance behind a bunch of claims. There is not an abundance in terms of different things. I do see a few handfulls of people with negative reviews, this being said its the same people on different sites over and over again. They are similar to you in a sense, you just jump all over saying the same things where ever you can, this doesn't mean there is an abundance of negative information out there, it just means there are a few people who were and are unhappy and spread their opinions everywhere they could (which by all means is their right to do so just as its your to do what you will here.) He also has addressed these online reviews, may not be what you were hoping for in a response but take a look back in the thread and you'll see a short answer. I'll still be waiting on these examples of how this is classic.
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[quote author=theshazbot link=topic=2430121.msg26643966#msg26643966 dateAnother brand new account. You're not fooling anyone. It's clear you're trying to spread confusion, and FUD on this thread. You severely underestimate the intelligence of readers on here. And for the record, none of my posts, nor ever, have I extorted anyone - nor am I Australian LOL. Nice try though. The CEO, Jordan Lindsey, as mentioned on the first page, and the posts beforehand (as well as the Facebook page), all show clearly that it's a clear scam.
By all means - create another 20 alts - no one's going to buy your junk coin, bud.
By all means - create another 20 alts - no one's going to buy your junk coin, bud.
Quote from: energiaglobal
Hey shaz my account was not just created. And youve never been vetted. You accused the founder of starting a thread and for it to be closed in which he never started. Great work!
Youre calling the guy scam yet he is doing everything stand up. Who burns tokens after cancelling an ICO if they are scamming anyone. Think about it. The guy would had disappeared. In the end you are going to look like a fool. But I suppose you could since you hide behind theshazbot meanwhile Jordan is not hiding about who he is. My money is on this project and you just creating FUD thinking you are a hero. The shazbot!
Youre calling the guy scam yet he is doing everything stand up. Who burns tokens after cancelling an ICO if they are scamming anyone. Think about it. The guy would had disappeared. In the end you are going to look like a fool. But I suppose you could since you hide behind theshazbot meanwhile Jordan is not hiding about who he is. My money is on this project and you just creating FUD thinking you are a hero. The shazbot!
I actually am vetted on this forum. Email address is the same, my trade history, accounts, etc. are all the same as they were four years ago. That's rich that a bunch of brand new accounts with less than 1-3 posts are shilling hard for a guy with a bad, bad reputation.
You also accused someone else on reddit of being this "Australian guy" too 2-3 weeks ago. LOL. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20171220065706/https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitconnect/comments/7f5xbo/scam_alert_bitcoin_growth_bot_a_brand_new_lending/dqjtfqv/
I think the fact that by simply typing Jordan Lindsey on google these three links pop up are pretty potent. I've noticed Jordan and his alt army conveniently ignore them:
1) http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-reviews/387/www.jcls-forex.com
2) http://www.tradebinaryoptionsrobot.com/blog-aggressive-gains-review-a-scam-by-jordan-lindsey
3) https://www.valforex.com/2017/09/aggressive-returns-review-a-scam-by-jordan-lindsey.html
You also delete posts on Facebook, as well as trying to manipulate public opinion on here. But again, waste of time - no one one here is that gullible.
I'm a joke because I showed the 3 links above show this guy is a con-artist? Nice one, Jordan or Jordan's associate.
Dude chillex! I'm interested in the project and I don't have 20 posts. I have put money down and I'm willing to see if Jordan is bluffing or not. Let people decide for themselves. Coming here spamming the shit out of this thread is not looking good for you. Get in. Make your point. And chill the F#$% out!
The competitor has no trading bot to show for. This is a transparent project. You can't put a price on that.
Funny how you also posted in this reddit thread (archived so it can't be deleted), and sound like a paid supporter of Jordan. And for anyone reading about this junk coin - there are better trading bots i.e. Gunbot, trader daddy, etc.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171220065706/https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitconnect/comments/7f5xbo/scam_alert_bitcoin_growth_bot_a_brand_new_lending/dqjtfqv/
You're a pathetic joke, sorry.
Funny how the same 2-3 people (you, Kygo, and Vinay9) keep shilling this turd.
500 NCL = 0.03042 BTC USD 570.2
Current price of coin is lower than pre pre ICO price, We this cant be another Davor?
Current price of coin is lower than pre pre ICO price, We this cant be another Davor?
So you mean the price is around $1.14/NCL token? Looks like volume is pretty low too and a bunch of bag holders now.
Note: To anyone: Go through the entire thread and besides the links mentioned above that Jordan conveniently ignores, deleting posts on Facebook, threatening to arrest LOL, etc., it's easy to find that the same 3-5 "new users" keep vigorously defending this scam coin. Classic exit scam. Not that it matters some bagholders looking to sell this scamcoin as price has fallen. I honestly would not be surprised if Jordan is just using the different users to create false volume.
Thanks for your opinion, we get it and got it days ago. You think its a scam, weve all gathered that. You mentioned the same reviews over and over and over again. Same links, same time frame, same reviews just on a different site. The thread you are claiming he tried to get removed was not even request by him, it was also what a year ago? Yes there are bag holders, thats what serious investors in an ICO do who are not trying to pump and dump. The price has actually been relatively stable after the initial ICO hype died a bit. I have not seen or noticed a deleted Facebook comment so I really cant even comment on this myself. You say this is a classic exit scam, could you provide details and a direct comparison between this owner and his company specifically bitcoin growth bit against others companies that have exited with all funds. Please dont use examples like bitpite or companies who just disappeared and nobody knew who the owner was. I would like specific examples of how Jordan and the owner a scam company that disappeared are similar. This should be an easy task since its classic and all.
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
Where are my tokens for signing up and referrals? You then decided the next scam campaign to organize?
Email tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
Dear admin,
I Bought BTW on BTW ICO.
I spent 0.00307357 BTC to buy BTW ICO, however I did sent an other amount is 0.00326 BTC Are there any problem with my BTC and what should i do?
I Email you through info@bitcoinwhite.org for help but there are no answer.
This is my TX Transaction ID: e102e58538fec4f953e4ca592865585ddb6a524c70b87681f023ed513129814a
This is my Purse number BTW: 15073876236092527929
I sent from my BTC Wallet: 14QVyTyxC4nAoQxWN6h2EB9Ca2hKbuPq4Z
Please help me to check it.
Thanks
I Bought BTW on BTW ICO.
I spent 0.00307357 BTC to buy BTW ICO, however I did sent an other amount is 0.00326 BTC Are there any problem with my BTC and what should i do?
I Email you through info@bitcoinwhite.org for help but there are no answer.
This is my TX Transaction ID: e102e58538fec4f953e4ca592865585ddb6a524c70b87681f023ed513129814a
This is my Purse number BTW: 15073876236092527929
I sent from my BTC Wallet: 14QVyTyxC4nAoQxWN6h2EB9Ca2hKbuPq4Z
Please help me to check it.
Thanks
It's possible you have the wrong forum. The email you sent went to a completely different company. This is not the bitcoin white forum, its for bitcoin growth bot. The email you would need in regards to bitcoin growth bot is tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io . But if you did mean this ICO and token then we are all more than willing to help out.
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
your competitor giving 25-60% / month .. how ncl will be attractive if u plan 12% avg ?
Very pertinent question. Initially I too asked the same question to Jordan. And I loved his explanation.Competition also means survival, to be the ultimate winner. More attractive doesn't mean more survival prospect. On the contrary that means more risk and add to that the lack of earning transparency. Management hiding behind the curtains. Virtual offices and no real contact address. For any investor who wants to invest huge, safety of his investment is the first and foremost factor on his mind. BGB aims to achieve this with all humbleness and transparency.
There is every chance BTC will outperform the bot, btc returned 1500% this year and bot averages 120%, Now you can say btc will eventually correct and dip, but bot can can have bad days and months too.
Most investors dont care about returns of the bot, everyone is banking on coin to appreciate but for that to happen returns must be made more attractive, either increase roi in fiat or make payments in BTC, no lending coin i know of pays in btc.
10% p/m in btc will create demand for this coin, no doubt.
Then keep your BTC, keep your NCL coins or enroll in a different lending program. There are plenty of people who are happy with the current projections to include myself. I appreciate the long term goal and the fact that he is trading fiats. I invest in Bitconnect and enjoy their platform but I have zero confidence that they will be around in 6-12 months.
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
The new Waves platform is in beta only? How well does it work , should I switch from old one
I stopped investing in new lending coins, its saturated market and fact nobody is showing faces or working bot turns me off.
The beta platform is a lot better but has a few clinches that need to be worked out which is why its in beta. The interface is a lot more user friendly. It uses trading views which is widely used across many exchanges. You no longer need to enter a token or coin identifier code but can use its short name. It will show the average price of a stock in USD now instead of having to calculate. Its really nice you should check it out!
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
Guys who can tell me how to take tokens for referrals step by step? I have 5 referrals, but i dont know where i can take airdrop.Thank you!
Ok so questions:
1.) Have you purchased at least $100 USD worth of NCL Tokens?
If the answer to number 1 is no you must purchase at least 100 USD.
If the answer to number 1 is yes, then good step one is complete.
2.) Have your referrals purchased at least $100 worth of tokens?
If your answer to number 2 is no, you will receive zero (0) tokens. Referrals must purchase a minimum of $100 USD for you to receive your 20 token bonus.
If the answer to number 2 is yes, your referral bonuses were issued after verification. An email was sent to all participants who had referrals asking them to verify their identity. Once verified the tokens were sent to your wallet.
3.) If you did not receive the email, I would sent an email to tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io.
I do not work for Bitcoin Growth Bot, I'm just trying to assist where I can, if I can.
Jordan please comment if this is incorrect.
1.) Have you purchased at least $100 USD worth of NCL Tokens?
The promotion offer offering FREE tokens was only for Pre-sale period. Everyone who signed-up during that period and the referrals who signed-up with their referral link are eligible for that offer of 20 FREE Tokens provided they purchased Minimum $100 worth of NCL during or before the pre-sale which was from Dec.1 and closed as soon as the designated quota of 3 million tokens were sold.
If you think that you are eligible, you have to write to tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io with all relevant details and wait for their reply asking for your ID proof.
I too do not work for BGB but I am sure of this reply.
Thanks and warm regards to all.
Whoops! Good catch on that one thanks, I literally looked and read that information on the website to lol. Just one of those days I suppose. I think it's time for the weekend! Thanks again for the correction.
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
Guys who can tell me how to take tokens for referrals step by step? I have 5 referrals, but i dont know where i can take airdrop.Thank you!
Ok so questions:
1.) Have you purchased at least $100 USD worth of NCL Tokens?
If the answer to number 1 is no you must purchase at least 100 USD.
If the answer to number 1 is yes, then good step one is complete.
2.) Have your referrals purchased at least $100 worth of tokens?
If your answer to number 2 is no, you will receive zero (0) tokens. Referrals must purchase a minimum of $100 USD for you to receive your 20 token bonus.
If the answer to number 2 is yes, your referral bonuses were issued after verification. An email was sent to all participants who had referrals asking them to verify their identity. Once verified the tokens were sent to your wallet.
3.) If you did not receive the email, I would sent an email to tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io.
I do not work for Bitcoin Growth Bot, I'm just trying to assist where I can, if I can.
Jordan please comment if this is incorrect.
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
Returns of 8-10% is very good in general terms. I agree that will be a huge investment opportunity for people who are not in crypto.
I am unable to understand the maths. Lets take an example. I lend 1000 NCL (@ rate of $1.5) of value $1500. After 180 days my $1500 grows to $2500. At that time NCL rate is $40 and hence I will be paid back 62.5 NCL. So I have in my hand $2500. Now, had I just kept and hold on to the 1000 NCL, it would fetch me $40000. Even If I hold on to $1500 worth of BTC, it will give me far far more attractive returns. The price of BTC when I purchased 500 NCL on 25th Nov. was $8300 and it doubled since then. Leave alone, the daily flow of various legitimate transparent and also lucrative, ICO opportunities. Now why will anyone in crypto like the 8-10% returns in lending. Agreed that 8-10% for people who are not in crypto is lucrative.
I would like to understand this. Am I missing something.
I am unable to understand the maths. Lets take an example. I lend 1000 NCL (@ rate of $1.5) of value $1500. After 180 days my $1500 grows to $2500. At that time NCL rate is $40 and hence I will be paid back 62.5 NCL. So I have in my hand $2500. Now, had I just kept and hold on to the 1000 NCL, it would fetch me $40000. Even If I hold on to $1500 worth of BTC, it will give me far far more attractive returns. The price of BTC when I purchased 500 NCL on 25th Nov. was $8300 and it doubled since then. Leave alone, the daily flow of various legitimate transparent and also lucrative, ICO opportunities. Now why will anyone in crypto like the 8-10% returns in lending. Agreed that 8-10% for people who are not in crypto is lucrative.
I would like to understand this. Am I missing something.
I see exactly what you are saying about holding the coins vs lending. This is the same across all platforms if you thing about it. Take bitconnect for example, if you invested 5k worth of BTC back in october that would be worth right around 15-16k right now. Sure holding it would have been the best thing to do however most people to include myself did not just hold btc but rather bough bitconnect coin. And to say BCC and BTC move in value with each other is a joke really, buying 5k worth of BCC back in October is not the same monetary value now at BTC. This is how lending platforms can afford to pay out your daily, weekly and monthly profits, you give them 1 BTC worth 5k, 6 months later you get your 5k back and they hold whatever the value of 1 BTC is. They are all the same with the exception of bitcoin growth bot. Bitconnects market locks down after big investors try to sell off, anything over 10% price fluctuation in the market will lock it up. 10% really isnt that difficult to do if one of the big youtubers decides to exit the platform. Bitconnect can also not afford to pay out 1% forever, think about it, after a 10k initial investment and 2 years later people are going to be making millions and millions and millions a day? It sounds great but its not sustainable, even if it was, one daily cashout would lock the market down for trading. At least here its more sustainable due to lower interest rates, even if the bot was garbage (which we can actually see now so we know its not) but for arguments sake the lower daily interest rate itself would allow the company to outlast its competitor by double. If company A pays 1% daily and company B pays 0.5%, assuming they pull in the same profit margins and customers, company B will last longer.
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
How do we know that the tokens trading on the waves platform are tokens purchased in the pre-ico and not tokens being held by Jordan? Not trying to throw any distrust out there, just would like some kind of confirmation that these are indeed tokens purchased during the token sale.
As of right now you can visit this link:
http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/C7kLesHCnqhDSNNgTuCiiMGr3qaEX1oGAXiJ8gTqzyku
<-------- C7kLesHCnqhDSNNgTuCiiMGr3qaEX1oGAXiJ8gTqzyku the end of the URL is the identifier that you need to enter to find the NCL on the Waves Platform.
So there are a few things to look at here...
1. The amount of coins/tokens in the first wallet shown is 33% of the total 24,000,000 which is what was being set aside as stated by Jordan and on the website.
2. Once the January ICO coins are burned we should also see on the same page the total drop from 24 million to around 19 million.
3. You can see wallet number 3 --- 3PJp9GDNZWWQgcVF72kd76y2bQvXR551woR this is the wallet containing the ICO tokens that were to be sold in January after the pre ICO.
4. I see my current holdings listed and my wallet address on this account as well.
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
There is already a token with same name and symbol of NCL. Why are you using the same name?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1499612.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1607774.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1499612.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1607774.0
There WAS a token over a year ago that failed. No reason not to use the same name, really other than people who go digging. Even if you google NCL token or NCL or NCL coin it brings up 99% Norwegian Cruise Line...
Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform 2.0 [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE]
Bitcoin Growth Bot is getting ready for the big day as we launch the trading bot tomorrow. Huge step forward for transparency in the lending sector and currencies as a whole!
Also processing all needed NCL bounty transactions that are waiting.
Jordon,
Will the bot be visible tomorrow or will that feature be unlocked with the rest of the website?
The bot will be visible tomorrow to be tracked in real time by everyone!
Here we go ladies and gents, hold on to your hats!
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nucleus/bitcoin-growth-bot/2358348