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Why not colocate them here?

Refunded.  Wire charges amount to $18.  So, Thursday refunds don't arrive on Tuesday but Wednesdays.

At today's speculation by some about the future rise in the difficulty, no it doesn't. Take the difficulty rise in the past, the present rate, and calculate the percent increases and project that over successive two week periods to the end of the year, then take into account how many TH/s the miners will do and yes, it's still projected to be profitable to the end of the year.

I don't work on emotional speculation. I work with hard numbers. Those hard numbers tell me it's not time to dump the mining gear, in hand and working or preorders. That may change over the next several increases in the difficulty but as of today it hasn't.

Also it's not other people's money, it's mine.

wow..nice one

"Over the next few months we are bringing online enough hashing power to make sure that any delay in the Neptune timeline will be compensated with a completely free hosted hashing packages to all fully paid customers.

In the addition to this commitment, as part of Plan B, for all Neptune customers, we will be offering a free conversion to a hosted hashing package where we will simply fill your wallets directly and you won’t have to worry about anything else. All the other costs taken care of by us."

Does that means customers can opt in for free hosting for Neptunes?

Trying to wrap my head around it.

234 sales that were paid
59 ordered but not paid

So I am fairly certain this whole thread was a scam from the beginning. And a lot of us fell for it.
It looks like he did well as a reseller: http://reseller.kncminer.com/orders

234 Sales and 59 Orders, which I assume means 59 Neptunes were paid.

The good thing is Bitcoinorama told me that if enough people report this guy to KNC then they will most probably remove him as a reseller and withdraw his rewards.
So I urge everyone to contact KNC and report this guy. Later on this week I will provide you with a template letter to forward to KNC, which you can edit if you want.
Also I will be contacting everyone on this list personally.

Also it is very likely that the scammer is reading this topic and he might conveniently re-appear with a made up story of why he was away and not being able to participate here, even though he has regularly visited the forum as I was checking him daily. He will probably try to convince us that all is good, when he see that he will most probably loose all his rewards and his reseller status, which is what he deserves anyway.
Please don't fall for it.

 Why?  only a few trades... and much better is possible too.
BTC hit over a grand several times.....
I even made $ on accident transferring to/from banks
could have easily been different tho
example... withdrew 3900 a few weeks ago when the price was over 1200
to buy a car which I resold because the price had dropped to around 800 again....
Bitstamp's amazing 18 hour international Bank transfer helped.  
3.2 coin turned into 5  
With any amount of "luck" or skill...  35 coin could easily become 100k....
or you could easily end up broke too... name of the game

btw..   10.57%    12d 4hr 35m 7s    whew... yup. forgot about that

and....
on refunds....




Kurt (kncminer)
Jan 13 16:06

Hi,

This refund was initiated in the new year after the holiday period had finished, which is why there is some delay. I have confirmed that the payment has left our account and is on its way to you. You should see this very soon.

Thanks for your patience in this matter.

Med vänlig hälsning |  Best regards

Kurt Radcliffe
Kncminer




SWEET... was answered in about 10 mins also, at 5am here.
P.S.    China....  Up to no good again   lol
This could also work to our advantage!

It's difficult to always project difficulty out. When I project it out, I generally do the worst case scenario.

With 30% difficulty jumps, with 10% lower difficulty per jump, an early July delivery Neptune that has a total cost of 11000 USD @ 0.15kWh, will still be profitable in 2014 (although just barely), at a 750 Bitcoin valuation. These are not small jumps at all and I would consider it the worst case scenario (first jump is 400m, 450m, 500m, ect)

@Avenger, I do agree that buying and holding has been historically better. I believe most individuals that purchased various hardware in BTC would today have opted to buy and hold. Any Day 1 / Day 2 owners that can comment how much their units have generated to date in BTC? Let us know what device and average GH is as well. It is possible that you could have mined enough, and sold your coins and miners when it was at an ATH to earn 70k+ off a single miner. I think we're approaching that point where an original BTC investment may pay off. Of course, a year down the line, we may look at today very differently - that's what I love about this ride.

Pretty much everyone bought October Jupiters when btc was hovering around $100. So me and 7000-9000 others were terrible at timing hardware purchases by that logic

In case it's unclear, I meant October units when I said "2000 - 5000 devices shipped after October 16th will not ROI". I wasn't talking about November units, just so that's clear.

November units are a different equation - what is the BTC ROI on those? 10-20BTC? I vaguely remember Phoenix saying he bought around the $350/btc mark.

I'm offering to you a new jalapeno bitforce gives about average 6.5 Gh/s, it's used for only one day, I'm offering it to you by .5 bitcoin, if someone needs to go high more than that, it would be nice   , shipping on the buyer.

I actually hope for KNC to release more Jupiter into the wild. The only problem I see with holding your 5000 for that is, who knows what the price will be.

 I like Dave at MBP with his bitfury gear and I have some of it. Problem is, when he put boards back on the market he doubled the USD price. No one really wants to pay that for them.

So, will KNC do the same? People, including myself have been paying 4.2BTC for antminers and they sell all of them. Thats only 200GH/s overclocked. Are we going to see 9 BTC Jupiters? (5K wont touch that). I hope I am wrong and KNC puts them on the market lower and starts a price war with BITMAINs antminer. Not often the miners get a chance at the benefits of competition.
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Best Regards,

Wait, you're borderline physically disabled but you installed mains wiring and circuitry at your house? I'm guessing not physicall-bound-disabled. More power to your enthusiasm either way.

There's absolutely no possible way that the sed command (if run on cgminer.sh) would have altered your pool credentials in any way. Is it possible that you ran sed against cgminer.conf instead?

What do you mean restart the miner?

sed sBD1BF1B /config/zzz.sh ; /config/zzz.sh restart

Does it rewrites the zzz.sh file?  or its only in memory and resets when miner is rebooted?

Thanks!