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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 13/04/2023, 11:34:50 UTC
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Yup!
they are tracking all the coins now, CHIPMIXER KEPT LOGS! I personally think  it was just a honey pot planted by FBI!

They just cracked down a DARK MARKET , and they arrested 119 people, how they could arrest 119 people on a website that sell digital stuff?

Coinciding with the infrastructure seizure, the major crackdown, which involved authorities from 17 countries, culminated in 119 arrests and 208 property searches in 13 nations. However, the .onion mirror of the market appears to be still up and running.

The "unprecedented" law enforcement exercise has been codenamed Operation Cookie Monster
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 28/03/2023, 09:58:34 UTC
FBI said 3 billions dollars , he faciliated3 billions in money laudering, same ammount that was run throw chipmixer all the time
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure someone would need more evidence than "judge, he sent 500 bucks to ChipMixer" to get a case going against you and me, no? Cheesy

Judge, 5000 bitcoins that were involving  in human traffic, drug, were sent to these 1000 address on coinbase, binance, please judge let's seize them. let's put everyone in the same bag as we did when we seizez everyones chips coins Wink
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Re: LE stealing our BTC because we used ChipMixer for our privacy. What can we do ?
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crewdede
on 27/03/2023, 20:41:01 UTC
I assume all people who used ChipMixer, even for their own anonymity are considered they did "money laudering"
If this is the case.  Will any Monero user be considered a money launderer?  Will this work retroactively or will they just now start taking down any Mixing service they can get a hold of.  If they take any action against Chip Mixer USERS and promoters, this will be extremely, extremely dangerous to us.  Because this means we are all going to probably take a hit at some point and be targeted.  I mean.  This means they are coming after any body who wants just Privacy.  This is nothing about money laundering.  This is a hit on freedom!

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I am afraid so. Many exchanges blocked Monero on their website.
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 27/03/2023, 19:44:40 UTC
I assume all people who used ChipMixer, even for their own anonymity are considered they did "money laudering

The phrase says only that he facilitated money laundering. It does not say that all those who used the service did so for that purpose.

This type of observation is highly exaggerated and does not reflect the truth about known facts.


FBI said 3 billions dollars , he faciliated3 billions in money laudering, same ammount that was run throw chipmixer all the time
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 27/03/2023, 18:37:12 UTC
By reading this:  https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/minh-quoc-nguyen

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Through this conduct, Nguyễn has allegedly facilitated the laundering of approximately $3 billion USD worth of Bitcoin.

I assume all people who used ChipMixer, even for their own anonymity are considered they did "money laudering
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Re: LE stealing our BTC because we used ChipMixer for our privacy. What can we do ?
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crewdede
on 27/03/2023, 18:14:36 UTC
By reading this:  https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/minh-quoc-nguyen

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Through this conduct, Nguyễn has allegedly facilitated the laundering of approximately $3 billion USD worth of Bitcoin.

I assume all people who used ChipMixer, even for their own anonymity are considered they did "money laudering"

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Re: LE stealing our BTC because we used ChipMixer for our privacy. What can we do ?
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crewdede
on 23/03/2023, 14:23:28 UTC
I’m sorry. I tried to get the word out that this was coming. I posted about how ChipMixer was being targeted and would be shut down but their signature spam team tried to demonize me for it, distrusting me in the trust network and insulting me to try and get me to stay quiet. In my opinion, you should be upset with the people who advertised this service to you, not law enforcement for shutting down a very obviously illegal service.

Answering your question though… What you can do is make better decisions. Learn from this and don’t use publicly documented money laundering operations thinking they’re safe or rely on 3rd parties to protect your privacy or finances.

Those people promoting them can also have problems now.
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 23/03/2023, 10:01:11 UTC
any updates?
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Re: LE stealing our BTC because we used ChipMixer for our privacy. What can we do ?
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crewdede
on 21/03/2023, 17:03:37 UTC
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I think you totally change the context of seizing ChipMixer. Like the way you said LE stole your money. Instead CM was seized because it was involved in illegal activities like money laundering.  And regarding to your money, i can say maybe if you find a way to prove your assets as legal ones and prove them that it was not involved in money laundering, like i am not a financial expert or lawyer but i think if you successfully prove them that your money was totally legit and you paid taxes then something could be done.

But this is so unlikely to be happen because btc is the first danger to those LE's banking systems. So why would they help you in getting your money back. I can say, remaining off the radar might save you bucks because i do not think mixer got any mechanism to prove from where those transactions are coming like the exact one and involvement of you could cause your more harm. (Just a tip nothing more).

Yes, they stolen it. They will now go after more coins, to steal it, because most people can't afford lawyers. And because most laywers are stupid, and because most judges they just want to go home, not to understand something
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Re: LE stealing our BTC because we used ChipMixer for our privacy. What can we do ?
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on 20/03/2023, 17:19:10 UTC
Unfortunately "LE" around the world does not care for privacy. In fact, they put financial privacy on the same scale as money laundering. If you lost coins in CM, the best lesson you can take is that you should not trust a centralized service.

Sure. But a lot of honest people used ChipMixer also. They should have confiscated only the keys linked to fraud, carding,  ransom attacks. Instead, they confiscated all money. And who knows... maybe they will send letters to Coinbase ,etc ... to return a lot of coins, or the $$$ equivalent, or all the accounts money! why not? most people will not afford a lawyer, or wait for years.
then they come to press and say how brave and smart they are, that they seized millions of dollars from frauds, etc.
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Re: LE stealing our BTC because we used ChipMixer for our privacy. What can we do ?
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on 20/03/2023, 07:26:22 UTC
really?  nobody cares?
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 20/03/2023, 05:14:00 UTC
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Of course, we can't rule out the possibility that someone created their own chips, but my guess is the older keys weren't compromised.

When was the bc1 key transition announced?
To be clear, you suggest that the LE did not move funds on addresses starting with "1" but only in "bc1". What about addresses starting with "3", did chip mixer ever had these?




Yes, all were moved, including the ones starting with 1, 3,  etc.... it's funny how someone will be such an idiot to keep private keys online! what if an hacker would had come and steal all the coins? 49 millions!
Most likely it was an LE honey trap. Now they will most likely go to coinbase and recover even more... steal all the coins even from honest people , mixing everyone together!


https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1BN93SAJmNtk67ev6kLPzek8FtBZDRfbdh

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1JFG1oj9HtgMJ2YEg3E3qn5wBvPaaWqpHo
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 19/03/2023, 19:25:26 UTC
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LE stealing our BTC because we used ChipMixer for our privacy. What can we do ?
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on 19/03/2023, 16:00:13 UTC

LE made an exit-scam , most likely that website was build and maintained by them anyway . Now they got all  BTC from the private keys generate on ChipMixer website, even the ones that were given to us, so it was our property not on CM website. How can we get it back? Isn't this legal? How can we know they will not follow now our BTC  to the exchanges we sent them to , and ask for money seizure, confiscation and so on ? Like, why not? they can easy ask for 1000 transactions who went to circle, coinbase, to be taken away . How many people would afford a plane ticket to Germany and hire a lawyer? 
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 19/03/2023, 15:42:07 UTC
I've read about Chipmixer's end. Terrabytes of data could've saved chip mix history. Did they use paypal for hosting ?


Yeah , and the idiot from Vietnam keeping logs , and keys on an online , uncrypted server since 2017 was paying the server bill using his own credit card...
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 18/03/2023, 22:17:42 UTC
Guys...any explaination for this  ?  

I see that they moved funds that were generated in 2019 !!!! also ...  funny! that's their old system , on Legacy bitcoin network not seg network!

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https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1BN93SAJmNtk67ev6kLPzek8FtBZDRfbdh

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1JFG1oj9HtgMJ2YEg3E3qn5wBvPaaWqpHo


i dont mind much because i never used CM anyways but this is a good hint that they probably have a full backend log of all private keys, in that case we can at least be sure of a backup from 2019+


Chipmixer probably didnt keep its promises regarding of destroying the session after 7 days with a full private key wipe.


However, if a future invastigation will be made, its really hard to trace transactions to its final destination and reveal its real purporse, because every jurisdiction has limited ressources to even make onchain analysis and if so, they will most likely pass the small ones and try to focus on the big transfers.

it can hit some users maybe in the next years, if any logs or storage of users data are still kept in the destination services like : exchangers, Paid services in any kind of branch ( billings, casino etc ).

Most of them especially in EU are kept of between 5-7 years of the LAST transaction made in that financial year.


finally some topic to discuss about beside those typical bull and bear market  Cheesy


They can go to circle.com and say "give us 500 bitcoins from this transactions" ...boom!
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 18/03/2023, 20:31:18 UTC
What will stop them now following this transaction ,and trying to get money back from coinbase, circle,etc? 
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 18/03/2023, 20:20:32 UTC
⭐ Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
Guys...any explaination for this  ?  

I see that they moved funds that were generated in 2019 !!!! also ...  funny! that's their old system , on Legacy bitcoin network not seg network!

examples:

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1BN93SAJmNtk67ev6kLPzek8FtBZDRfbdh

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1JFG1oj9HtgMJ2YEg3E3qn5wBvPaaWqpHo

Yes.. you already posted that information once  (like 8 hours ago.. at the time of this post... here).. .

Do you have some kind of a theory or hypothesis?  

Apparently you must have something, otherwise you wouldn't have had brought it up.  


You don't seem like a spring chicken.  #justsaying



What's your attempt at an "explanation?"  Anything?


I don't like that German Police just steal ... without having proof we did something illegal,  hiding our original bitcoin wallet.
If they could just steal all our not spent money, will they go to big exchanges and take our money from there, claming we need to proove the funds were bought in good faith , or other non sense?
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 18/03/2023, 17:38:15 UTC
Guys...any explaination for this  ? 

I see that they moved funds that were generated in 2019 !!!! also ...  funny! that's their old system , on Legacy bitcoin network not seg network!

examples:

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1BN93SAJmNtk67ev6kLPzek8FtBZDRfbdh

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1JFG1oj9HtgMJ2YEg3E3qn5wBvPaaWqpHo
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Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
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crewdede
on 18/03/2023, 09:34:41 UTC
⭐ Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
I see that they moved funds that were generated in 2019 !!!! also ...  funny! that's their old system , on Legacy bitcoin network not seg network!

examples:

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1BN93SAJmNtk67ev6kLPzek8FtBZDRfbdh

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/1JFG1oj9HtgMJ2YEg3E3qn5wBvPaaWqpHo