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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin | Nitesend | Tor | Voot Foundation | Anon Ex RELEASED
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crypto-yoda
on 13/08/2014, 07:52:00 UTC
The exchange is not the final version.  It is a beta version and as such has no online wallets.  Seems Jefferson made a mistake in releasing it prematurely but he did state that "It is just a matter of management that is needed to fully launch the service".  The Voot Foundation is on the case but was only created 24 hours ago so I expect it will be a few days at least before the team structure of the foundation is settled and for the guys to get up to speed, take control of the infrastructure and establish a release plan. 

The primary news of the last few days is the establishment of the Voot Foundation, and we should focus on that.
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 11/08/2014, 20:41:57 UTC
Oh, and: that's great news! :-)
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 11/08/2014, 20:38:41 UTC
UPDATE:

I just received an update from SMOKE devs.

The exchange is now 100% complete and ready for launch.

However, we as the community need to make a few decisions next.

We need to know if we're willing to elect community members who can help manage it OR if we should let SMOKE team manage it and pay them a "consultancy fee" to do so.

We are also looking for investors who may want to invest funds into trading on the exchange.

So far, trading has not yet been enabled. I am asking if I can finally share the .onion address to the public. Will update again shortly.

Happy to elect community member but whatever arrangement is installed it must include some kind of maintenance phase for the smoke team.  Two questions:
  • Was that not agreed at the start?
  • Where does mscollec stand in all this?
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 11/08/2014, 20:35:19 UTC
Nice logo!
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 11/08/2014, 20:18:21 UTC
For the record, they do not have to take over Vootcoin, they can easily add and improve Voot alongside with any other devs (eg. MsCollec, SMOKE team, etc.) I am sure this will ultimately be more beneficial for us if we had more devs working on new features right?

Agreed.  I see where you are going with this.
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 11/08/2014, 19:56:54 UTC
So now we are all waiting for SMOKE to deliver the anon exchange.

I am in EST timezone, so right now as of this post it is 3:50 PM EST. Hopefully they will deliver soon.

Also, yesterday night I had a meet up with my two developer buddies. They said they're very interested in taking over an established crypto coin project and would be willing to contribute if there is a bounty involved. They are able to start as early as next Tuesday. I will be skyping with them tonight to discuss further.

Does the community want to raise a bounty for these two devs to hop on board? They are able and willing to add new features to Voot, even if SMOKE team is still working on vootmarket/vootcloud. I have a few ideas I'd like Voot to have implemented and have ran the ideas through them last night. They said it shouldn't be too difficult. These guys aren't amateurs. They know their shit. One of them has interned for both Twitter and Google.

Let me know what you guys want to have added to Voot, I will talk to them about it tonight.

Have you discussed this with mscollec?
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 11/08/2014, 10:35:47 UTC
#vootcoin

You can use http://webchat.freenode.net/
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 11/08/2014, 10:31:06 UTC
mscollec tks, u help voot first time, although i was not in voot during the first time, I came here after 2k sat, plz help us second time. Thanks very much.

don't worry dude.. There's no point. He will either wake up one morning and realises that despite all these fuds there were/are many people who have entrusted their hard earned money into Voot. If it is any consolation...my 5BTC is now worth just 1BTC..  Grin Grin

Life goes on I guess..Smiley. May be ask the VRC Devs to help.. they are very trust worthy and transparent.

Are u acquainted with VRC devs? Maybe you can help us contact them, btw, voot is similar with vrc, smstipping, anon send.

Isn't there a release today guys?

We are hoping for it but at this point I know as much as you do.
We have to think about 2 possible scenarios:
- what happens, if Smoke delivers
- what happens, if Smoke does not deliver

Perhaps a discussion on IRC is in order.
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 10/08/2014, 01:08:14 UTC
MsCollec leadership? Not so much lately. I certainly don`t want him touching Voot anymore.

There is no mutiny here. We have no DEV besides Smoke that`s helping us.

The frontmen of Voot is Whale, Jeffersson and Smoke who works for us right now.



Smoke team has been commissioned by MsCollec to produce the three products. Who do you think they will deliver them to?
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 10/08/2014, 00:51:08 UTC
Honestly, at this point it does not seem like there is a active lead dev for Voot. MsCollec has been very inactive and the only posts he makes here are to argue with other community members which is just very pointless at this time.

The only devs working on Voot right now are the (outsourced) SMOKE devs. They still have quite a bit to work on after the anon exchange, the VootMarket most notably. However, there are no plans for any other development after that.h

I have my own connections with very qualified devs who can take over the project but that will need to take some planning.

We can also elect a new dev and form a Voot Foundation if we really want to help steer this coin in the right way. I think we need a leader and not just PR. What do you guys think? Does anyone know any devs who may be interested in taking over the Voot project? Who wants to be a part of the Voot foundation and to help turn things around?

We need to work together as a community if we want to have any chances of succeeding.

There are a lot of undercover FUDsters here, people who pretend they're in the long haul with Voot but really are just waiting for the next pump to dump their coins. I can tell who is who and there are already some who have decided to show their true colours, not naming any names in particular but it's pretty obvious.

I need your honest feedback guys.

WTF?? Nice timing. A mutiny is not what this coin needs, especially right now! A structured team of devs, technical writers and PR people is what it needs to provide professional support to the voot brand. Delivery of the anon exchange is MsCollec's chance to demonstrate his leadership role on this project. If he succeeds then the community can work with him to fill in the holes. If he fails then perhaps there will be grounds for a rescue mission but until then I'm afraid you have just been taken in by all the recent fud and may well have provided the final nail in the coffin.  I'm astonished that you thought this post was a good idea.
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 07/08/2014, 22:17:51 UTC
Can someone tweet to BTC38 about adding VOOT in their exchange and to confirm when VOOTs gets added as it in #1 on the list.
Please post your tweet here so others can retweet.

@Vootcoin did this a few days ago: https://twitter.com/vootcoin/statuses/495843531182059520

BTC38 account suspended  Huh

Good point.  The actual account, AFAIK, is @btc38com.
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 07/08/2014, 22:08:04 UTC
Can someone tweet to BTC38 about adding VOOT in their exchange and to confirm when VOOTs gets added as it in #1 on the list.
Please post your tweet here so others can retweet.

@Vootcoin did this a few days ago: https://twitter.com/vootcoin/statuses/495843531182059520
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 07/08/2014, 21:03:17 UTC

Man this question was asked to Whale and Jefferson long time ago this week! The only thing here is that you dont answer the question and you make fun of this project.

I am out guys. Too much stuff going around here and as some people realized that project is not managed by anyone public ... whale and jefferson try to organize some stuff but they are not the lead developer or deciders here. The only real decider can be MSCollec or Smokeproject.

But if we try to get answers from them we get blocked here to ask Jefferson or Whale.. you see the circle?

Don't get me wrong I tried my best and I think most of the community saw the good things I wrote the last days and tried to get this thing going with answers, but now I am happy to let voot behind me even loosing money.

My opinion: Mscolloc scams us again. But everyone should make his own research reading the last threads.. I was here when the first scam occured , then he took over, then he made people panic sale and now the same pattern starts again.   You read his post that he owns Smokeproject atm that they work for him! Here you see how he is really thinking... thats not a coin for the community it was always a coin for Mscolloc and Smokeproject, I was just digging into the hard questions/facts that no one wanted to answer.

Whale and Jefferson , great job you too you tried your best!     @Jefferson I would be happy if you don't delete this post as you know I am not fudding around it's just my opinion what I saw the last 2 weeks.

Cheers,

Chris

Sorry to hear you are leaving us, you have done a good job raising important questions.  I don't interpret things quite the way that you do:

  • Firstly, Smokeproject work for MsCollec because he has paid them a fixed sum to deliver exchange, cloud and market.  He doesn't own them.
  • Secondly, I think it is very reasonable to limit dev team communication to a single channel for two reasons: 1) it reduces interruptions for the dev team and; 2) developers are often not great PR people!  Many developers I've met over the years (usually the good ones), do not keep a cool head when faced with personal or professional accusations (to put it politely).

My opinion: MsCollec is not deliberately scamming us.  What he has achieved since he took over is admirable, at least provided it is confirmed by a release of the exchange next week.  There are significant issues related to the quality of documentation and technical info that has been released but I am willing to put that aside for now and wait to test the quality of the delivery.  Perhaps that can be resolved after this weekend.  Meanwhile Whale and Jefferson continue to do a good job under difficult circumstances and I commend them.  

Anyway, ramble over, I wish you all the best in whatever you do next.
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 07/08/2014, 19:12:06 UTC
The value of this coin over the next few weeks is in the listing at BTC38, the successful delivery of the exchange and the community's confidence in how the exchange will be run with respect to the voot currency.  We can ruin it in the meantime with high emotion, finger pointing, relaunch ideas and responding to (frankly, arse-wavingly obvious) fud if we want to but at least lets get the answers to the community's questions that Whale123 and Jeffersonairplane have put to the dev team and wait for the next week to unfold.  
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 07/08/2014, 10:34:03 UTC
This is what was originally planned, was it not?

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Vootcoin anonymous exchange could be the next big thing because the anonymous exchange will allow users to trade without compromising their identities.

My plan is to make Vootcoin exchange one of the top alt-coins exchange with 100-500 BTC trading volume. I'm looking for partners, shareholders and traders to join forces in creating an exchange where 100% profit goes into Vootcoin price stability fund.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639371.msg8012215#msg8012215


+1 I'd forgotten about that.  If that is still the case then there is a direct link between the exchange and the currency.  Whale/Jefferson can you confirm this is still the case?

I will confirm this with the SMOKE team as there was no previous confirmation of this from MsCollec or SMOKE.

Great - thanks.  I appreciate what you guys are doing.
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 07/08/2014, 10:30:12 UTC
This is what was originally planned, was it not?

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Vootcoin anonymous exchange could be the next big thing because the anonymous exchange will allow users to trade without compromising their identities.

My plan is to make Vootcoin exchange one of the top alt-coins exchange with 100-500 BTC trading volume. I'm looking for partners, shareholders and traders to join forces in creating an exchange where 100% profit goes into Vootcoin price stability fund.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639371.msg8012215#msg8012215


+1 I'd forgotten about that.  If that is still the case then there is a direct link between the exchange and the currency.  Whale/Jefferson can you confirm this is still the case?
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 07/08/2014, 09:20:49 UTC
I have reviewed the questions below and will answer the ones I can at the best of my ability.

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2 ) The fee has not yet been decided but it will remain competitive to other altcoin exchanges, perhaps cheaper. The fees earned from the exchange will be used for future development after VootMarket and VootCloud has been sucessfully implemented. Depending on what the community wants in the future, any funds will be saved and paid to the devs for future work.

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5 ) Being on Tor provides one level of anonymity. Yes, it requires an e-mail and name for registration, however, we do not require any verification to show your identity. You can easily sign up with a throwaway e-mail and a fake name, this would not be against the rules.

6) I have forwarded this question to the devs. To my understanding though, the anon exchange provides a baseline for the devs to continue working on in the future.

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10 ) The Voot exchange provides a baseline for the devs to implement more features in the future. For now it will just be like any other exchange on Tor but more advancements will be made progressively. Nobody but speculators claimed that the exchange will raise the price of the coin. Personally I think it will go up also but it is like that for most cryptos. As long as there is positive news and developments more value is being added to the coin. I think the VootMarket will be the biggest hit that will truly make Voot skyrocket, so I am looking forward to that.

Thanks for the quick response.

So, there is no intrinsic link between the currency and the exchange (other than [probably] being partly funded by rises in voot currency)? AnonEx is effectively a new exchange but with the voot symbol in the top left corner, albeit on the Tor network.

I see value in that provided voot cloud and voot market are intrinsically linked to the voot currency.  Can you confirm this?
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 06/08/2014, 21:39:55 UTC

Actually there is no announcement worth a damn tomorrow, perhaps maybe on Friday, and I have really really been hoping for something to happen for a week now. There is nothing on the horizon other than a pump and dump. Burners' questions have for the most part gone completely unanswered as have those of others asking serious questions about the exchange and further ahead.

Even though I spent some personal coin to lift up this coin when it needed it, I don't see any advancement a week later and it appears to me all of the hard questions are being ignored. So I am out of the buy game, hoping for some sell to get out. Be good all.

Which questions are you referring to?

Burners' questions and others from pages 70 onwards:

1) When its Anonymous, how is it secured to not loose coins which we transfer to the exchange? This question was here before.

2) What is the fee for transactions? Where is the Fee going? In our Voot Escrow Fund?

3) Are we willing to pay our employees based on the fee's we earn? That would motivate everyone.

4) I lost 1 BTC with C-cex.com and I know their volumina very well and I see how hard it is to get a Exchange going.

5) How does the exchange promote anonymity when it is centralized and asks for name and email address on registration? Is it any more anonymous than Mintpal-on-Tor?

6) If the exchange is not decentralized on the voot network then what does it have to do with the voot currency?

7) Is the Voot exchange planned to be used by other coins for any other purpose as well? Some announcements in other threads are hinting at the topic of their having access to a decentralized exchange in the not distant future.

8 ) It is still centralized and as safe as every other centralized (Mintpal, Poloniex, Bittrex, etc) I guess.
How is it ensured
a.) Assets don't get stolen by Hacker
b.) Assets don't get stolen by Admins like it happened on other exchanges.

9) What makes the anonymity exchange so special? I can also access Bittrex over the TOR network. Why should I use the Voot exchange?

10) In the end the vootexchange won't bring any real value to the coin. There will be a big rise for sure when it gets released. But the Voot-Exchange has in the end nothing to do with the coin as I understand this right now. Correct me if I am wrong.

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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 05/08/2014, 21:29:38 UTC
Burner gets it! I know you guys are busying doing great PR work on here/twitter etc... ...

...just want to clarify...great job on the PR whale...there has been a lot of voot chat on twitter since you joined so well done.

+1

( You know where I stand - min hype, max facts.  Doesn't mean I don't appreciate you!  Wink )
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Re: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin-Nitesend | Tor | Multi-Pool | New PR Rep | Anon Ex Soon
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crypto-yoda
on 05/08/2014, 21:20:19 UTC
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It's quite funny that a lot of people think when you release an exchange the coin is worth more.. without any team behind it.

Actually it probably will be worth more, at least temporarily.  The FUDers will then ask the same questions as you did and the price will drop... unless we have ready answers to those questions. 

You have raised some (obvious, in hindsight) questions whose answers are vital to the mid/long term stability of voot.  The Anon Exchange is crunch time for voot - at least it is for me - since it is the first major feature release, and its 2nd timely delivery and quality is vital.  As you quite rightly highlight, the success of voot and the exchange relies not only on the technical release but on the details of the management of the exchange and how it relates to the voot currency.  If we want a shot at the moon rather than a P&D then as a community we should get our heads together and flush out as many concerns as possible before VAnonEx is released.

On top of your four questions: my two pence worth:

5) How does the exchange promote anonymity when it is centralized and asks for name and email address on registration? Is it any more anonymous than Mintpal-on-Tor?
6) If the exchange is not decentralized on the voot network then what does it have to do with the voot currency?