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Re: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud
by
david-pokeram-com
on 12/10/2015, 05:48:34 UTC
asksisk@hotmail.com  is not my e-mail account.

all your requests were sent from this email. this email is in your account.
your ticket was sent from this email.
even after your forum post all messages were sent from this email.
(with a link to this thread)


10.10.2015

On 10 October 2015 at 07:24, <asksisk@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Look here dumb asses.Everyone trusts me in the forum

>https:// bitcointalk .org/index.php?topic=1204396.msg12643181

>I'm bringing your program down.I've all evidence that are against you.

>MNO will be the next place I'm reporting you guys to.Have fun!

or now you'll say this is not your message?


Ridiculous, lie again!

You can arbitrarily claim that all email accounts like
asksisk@xxxx.xxx all belong to me!


Look how fragile and weak oral evidence you provided.

You can easily change everything that belong to me inside poker automatics, not to mention just a similar email accounts like my.

I strongly suspect that this email accounts asksisk@hotmail.com is owned by you ( or poker automatics), used to defame me or cover up your obvious selective scam.


 Shocked Shocked Shocked OMG.What's wrong with you...


and after these words we received another one "not your" email message from <asksisk@hotmail.com>:

2015-10-12 7:10 <asksisk@hotmail.com>:
Re: You are doomed

>Hehehe.I'll keep posting screenshots as evidence that you are scamming.

>Fuck your director


and another one from <asksisk@yahoo.com.tw>

On 12 October 2015 at 03:00 <asksisk@yahoo.com.tw> wrote:

>So what if asksisk@hotmail.com is also my email address?Fuck you son of a bitch.I'll make your program go down under.

>Watch out for my complaints in other forums.I'm bringing you guys down.



That means that it was your request for changing your PM account number. And you're a cheater

and this is all your data:

email - asksisk@hotmail.com
email - asksisk@yahoo.com.tw
PerfectMoney account - U9476692 (verified account with username Tsay)
PerfectMoney account - U8019013 (verified account with username Tsay)
skype - asksisk.tw

We sent a ticket to PerfectMoney to block your second account U9476692 (Tsay) and return our money.
Because we paid our real money there.

10.01.15 12:52    Transfer    103741265    U3129564 Poker Automatics    -7035.00 USD U9476692   Tsay   35.00 Sent Payment 7000.00 USD to account U9476692. Memo: API Payment. Invoice 5986118, asksisk.
10.01.15 12:52    Transfer    103741261    U3129564 Poker Automatics    -79.35 USD U9476692   Tsay  0.39    Sent Payment 78.96 USD to account U9476692. Memo: API Payment. Invoice 5986042, asksisk.

if it's not your account you should send such ticket too.
but I suppose you'll not do that because it's your second PerfectMoney account.



P.S.

and another one email from <asksisk@hotmail.com>:

2015-10-12 08:47 <asksisk@hotmail.com>:

>It's of no use blocking my second PM account Smiley

>I'm gonna ruin Pokeram reputation.Our discussion will never be over until you go down.

>Fucking retards


My Bitcoin address:
1GoGo8vUmmmMcZnAnYTxyTwFVnZKAJ2x6B
Ok now WHERE THEY SENT MY 5.078 BTC TO???

your BTC address is the same. only your PerfectMoney account number was changed by your request from <asksisk@hotmail.com>.

All other money is in your Poker Automatics account (5.000 PM + 9 BTC)


3) your money is in your Poker Automatics account (5.000 PM + 9 BTC)


your account was temporary blocked for security reasons after the second attempt to change your payment details by email.
we don't know it was you or somebody else.
we asked you to confirm your requests and data.
but you never replied by email. we receive only threats from you.

Here is an order of our director:
We should pay you all your initial deposits and close your account for violation of ToS.
You already have a profit over 6,000 USD (Withdrawals minus Deposits).
Your account is permanently blocked.
You can't create new account in Poker Automatics in future.

The overall result:
You received all your Deposits + profit over 6,000 USD + 7,078.96 USD into your second account.
You violated and continue to violate our rules.
https://pokeram.com/rules
Our discussion is over.



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Board Scam Accusations
Re: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud
by
david-pokeram-com
on 11/10/2015, 13:44:22 UTC
asksisk@hotmail.com  is not my e-mail account.

all your requests were sent from this email. this email is in your account.
your ticket was sent from this email.
even after your forum post all messages were sent from this email.
(with a link to this thread)


10.10.2015

On 10 October 2015 at 07:24, <asksisk@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Look here dumb asses.Everyone trusts me in the forum

>https:// bitcointalk .org/index.php?topic=1204396.msg12643181

>I'm bringing your program down.I've all evidence that are against you.

>MNO will be the next place I'm reporting you guys to.Have fun!

or now you'll say this is not your message?
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Topic
Board Scam Accusations
Re: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud
by
david-pokeram-com
on 11/10/2015, 08:17:39 UTC
P.S.
Maybe this is your goal:


07.10.2015

On 7 October 2015 at 13:36, <makeprofitvnet1@gmail.com> wrote:

>Our team recently kill a big growing program within 24 hours only.
>Remember we are not DDoS attacker, we just kill you website in forums and monitors and investors will also support if we start working against you.

>Send me $500 to my bitcoin for avoid this otherwise i will inform to my team and we will start work within next 6 to 12 hours.

>Tradinginc.net admin refuse to pay us so his website is dead now.
>Check proof of our work
>http:// www. moneymakergroup .com/Tradinginc-Tradingincn-t502841.html

>In MMGP they removed the website in scam while he not just launched and buy MNO sticky and we kill it.

>Send $500 here FAST 1MZqnQLGxoxLoG47Dnv3xAmB8rcBf2ayKq

10.10.2015

On 10 October 2015 at 07:24, <asksisk@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Look here dumb asses.Everyone trusts me in the forum

>https:// bitcointalk .org/index.php?topic=1204396.msg12643181

>I'm bringing your program down.I've all evidence that are against you.

>MNO will be the next place I'm reporting you guys to.Have fun!


Here is an example of messages from different cheaters and scammers we receive every day...
Everyone of them tries to steal our money every single day in 100s of different ways.

You already received all your money + profit 6,000 USD.
Relax.

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Topic
Board Scam Accusations
Re: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud
by
david-pokeram-com
on 11/10/2015, 07:03:45 UTC
If any client has any problems he tries to resolve it.
He will try to contact us several ways to get our reply.
The only message we got from you is a ticket from your second email. And you never replied from this email after that.
We have several email services, skype chats, over 200 Representatives, all social networks accounts.
You didn't contact us and you didn't try to resolve anything.
Nobody makes a lot of screenshots posting on forum to resolve his problems.
So you had another goals. We don't know why.

We don't have any clients who lost even $1 using our program.

You got a profit over 6,000 USD.
You violated several our rules.
https://pokeram.com/rules
Our discussion is over.
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Topic
Board Scam Accusations
Re: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud
by
david-pokeram-com
on 10/10/2015, 07:27:42 UTC

Yes, after all I am still the winner in this event.

But as mentioned above, I will never put any money into any HYIP again.


We receive 10s and 100s of emails and different messages from hackers, cheaters and different scammers every day. Everyone of them tries to steal our money every single day in 100s of different ways.

Please don't try to blackmail us.

When you create your account you accept our Rules and Terms of Service.
https://pokeram.com/rules
The Client is obliged to store the login, the password and other personal data in full confidentiality.

The Client is responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of any login and password information associated with their account and for all activities that occur under Client account.

Client's participation in Poker Automatics is completely confidential. Client doesn’t need to submit any documents.

You didn't store your personal data in confidentiality or you tried to make double profit using your second payment account.

We have over 43.000 clients at this time and we receive over 250 requests for changing personal data each day.

If somebody has all your personal data we can't help.
Someone contacted us by email and skype and he knew all your personal data: your username, email, payment account number, dates and amounts of your Deposits.
It's enough to change your email according to our rules.

You should not publish your personal data anywhere.

Poker Automatics has the right to prohibit the use of its website and any of its services to a Client without the explanation of reasons.

We can't check: it was you or someone else.
You are a victim of some hacker or it was your second payment details and you try to get double payouts.

We paid our real money to payment details from your account.
We could just block your account after your complaint according to our rules.

You didn't lose any single dollar in our program.

If somebody has a problem he tries to contact us several ways.
But after all you even didn't try to contact us.
If you didn't receive our reply to your ticket you should contact us any other way. You didn't do that.
We have several email services, skype chats, over 200 Representatives, all social networks accounts.


If it was not your payment data you should send a request to PerfectMoney payment system Support to block the second account. You didn't do that.

You should keep private you personal information. You didn't do that.


Looks like after you got your profit with over 6,000 USD you just try to blackmail us through this forum post without any risks for your money.

from our rules:
https://pokeram.com/rules

The Client is obliged to store the login, the password and other personal data in full confidentiality.
The Client is responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of any login and password information associated with their account and for all activities that occur under Client account.
Poker Automatics has the right to allow or prohibit the use of its website and any of its services to a Client without the explanation of reasons.
Poker Automatics may refuse to provide its services to a Client if the Client violates the terms of this Agreement or attempts to harm, in any way, Poker Automatics (libel, blackmail, website security exploits, spam, etc.).
In this case Poker Automatics may initiate the procedure of deposit refund or block the Client and confiscate the funds invested in compensation of the damages.

You didn't want to resolve this problem by contacting us.


Here is an order of our director:
We should pay you all your initial deposits and close your account for violation of ToS.
You already have a profit over 6,000 USD (Withdrawals minus Deposits).
Your account is permanently blocked.
You can't create new account in Poker Automatics in future.
Post
Topic
Board Scam Accusations
Re: Poker automatics scam--How I lost 9 BTC plus $12000 by a deliberately fraud
by
david-pokeram-com
on 09/10/2015, 17:34:47 UTC

I immediately submitted a ticket and wrote to support both to ask them to give me an explanation for this very strange phenomenon.

But no any response at all.

On Oct 7 2015, my account was totally blocked, no way to login.


excuse me but looks like you're a scammer...

1) you should contact accounts@pokeram.com if you have any problems.

2) we received your email by our ticket system. you stated asksisk@hotmail.com as your email.
we replied to you in the same day asking to send your personal data. you didn't reply.
if it's not your email, why did you set it as yours in the ticket?

3) your money is in your Poker Automatics account (5.000 PM + 9 BTC)

your account was temporary blocked for security reasons because someone (or you by yourself) asked to change your account data by email and skype.
we don't know it was you or somebody else.

we paid our real money to payment system account which was in payment details.
we have several operators in financial department and thousands of transactions daily.
hundreds of our clients change their data every day.


from our FAQ
https://pokeram.com/faq

I’ve lost access to email, which was used to register in Poker Automatics. Can you change my email?

Send a request to Support. Please, specify your email, username and account number in the payment system, which was used to make a deposit.

I’ve changed an account number in the payment system. How can I change it in Poker Automatics?

Send a request to Support via your registered email. Please, specify your username and a new account in the payment system.


Please also learn our Rules and Terms of Service:
https://pokeram.com/rules

Client's participation in Poker Automatics is completely confidential. Client doesn’t need to submit any documents. - That's why we ask our clients to keep their information private!

The Client is obliged to store the login, the password and other personal data in full confidentiality.
The Client is responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of any login, password and other personal information associated with his account and for all activities that occur under Client account.


Please NEVER publish anywhere your Poker Automatics personal information (login, password, e-mail, e-currency account numbers).
If you invite referrals then you can publish your login but always hide your e-wallets numbers with *****!

To increase security, follow these simple guidelines:
- Don’t share your login, password and other personal data with third parties
- Use strong passwords (letters, digits, special characters)
- Don’t click on links found in emails from dubious recipients
- Use antivirus programs

We can't do anything if someone has all personal information about you and your accounts.

nobody knows your password.
even we don't know your password because it's encrypted.

usually we don't publish any client's data on forums but you already did it... so:

is this your data?

email - asksisk@hotmail.com
email - asksisk@yahoo.com.tw
PerfectMoney account - U9476692 (verified account with username Tsay)
PerfectMoney account - U8019013 (verified account with username Tsay)
skype - asksisk.tw

you should contact our fin.department anyway ASAP.

P.S.
you could not lose anything as you say in the topic.

your total deposits = 16600 PM + 11 BTC
your total withdrawals = 22395.7 PM (+7000 PM) + 8.43947 BTC


we have no any client who lost at least $1 in our program.