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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Why does that HT link redirect to the log in page?
The post has been deleted.
Edit: and the user has been banned, most posts seem to have been deleted.
https://hashtalk.org/user/bourbon44
I don't see how GAW has any customers left. They have failed on so many levels and their leader couldn't muster up enough courage to talk at TNABC. What keeps them going? What promise are they still waiting to be fulfilled?
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
I wonder which is more accurate, that old mining date and time or the agenda time which is tomorrow:
http://btcmiami.com/agenda/
http://btcmiami.com/agenda/
I think the agenda is probably more accurate. Based on the scribed file "TNABC_Agenda_09-01-15 (1)", it looks like this was posted on 1/9/15. I'm assuming they printed and handed these out.
*edit* Based on the agenda it looks like he will speak tomorrow @ 2pm and the following day at 11am on the miners panel
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
So can we get a livestream event set up for Homero's 15 minutes today?
according to http://btcmiami.com/speakers/josh-garza/
He is speaking on 1/18/15 11:00am EST (2 days and 2 hours from now)
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Re: what kind of gambling site do you feel the community is missing?
I would probably play some tien len or mahjong
Software has to be probably fair though for me to even consider it
Also i feel like the bitcoin poker market hasn't been fully cracked yet. All the sites have their flaws
Software has to be probably fair though for me to even consider it
Also i feel like the bitcoin poker market hasn't been fully cracked yet. All the sites have their flaws
What flaws do they have specifically?
I know there are tons of dice sites. I have a good amount of programming skills and I'm fiending to start a new project.
Would anyone be interested in a 1v1 billiards game (probably 8 ball, maybe 9) with btc bets? Or a holdem or blackjack site?
Any suggestions would be awesome
Would anyone be interested in a 1v1 billiards game (probably 8 ball, maybe 9) with btc bets? Or a holdem or blackjack site?
Any suggestions would be awesome
Well, billiard is not gambling, it is a 100% skillbased which makes it based on having whales that always lose and sharks that always win. The cool thing about gambling is that EVERYONE can win, in billiard you would even have to train if you play for money which i think is stupid. The cool thing about "pure" gambling like dicing or roulette or slots is the fact that you do not need skill to win
Well I guess I meant the players "gamble" on their game of skill. But this would prove difficult to moderate fairly if people try to cheat/use rulers/etc. Good points.
I know there are tons of dice sites. I have a good amount of programming skills and I'm fiending to start a new project.
Would anyone be interested in a 1v1 billiards game (probably 8 ball, maybe 9) with btc bets? Or a holdem or blackjack site?
Any suggestions would be awesome
Would anyone be interested in a 1v1 billiards game (probably 8 ball, maybe 9) with btc bets? Or a holdem or blackjack site?
Any suggestions would be awesome
I would really like chess as long as it can be against humans and not robots. I think we have most of the other games already.
Chess would be a great idea. Would be easy to make 1v1 matches and tournies. Only issue is that you would always have to wait for someone else to join the game to play and if person had to leave early there would have to be some penalties.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Jesus Bubbaj spare us the sob story. Microsoft just started accepting Bitcoin. You were literally in here less than a week ago saying that GAW was committing fraud. I actually thought for a second that these GAW fanboys that "saw the light" and started thinking for themselves, looking at the proof of fraud from GAW's "$20 floor, too big to fail at this point" etc. were coming around. Then they go and say some even dumber shit than they did before. Do you wonder why the CEO has to run his mouth through his lawyer's ass everytime he tries and talks now? Bitcoin's price DOES NOT effect it's usefulness. I'm a little bit tired of people treating this like a stock when clearly it's purpose is to be a currency and is one hell of a good one at that.
~~~~THIS JUST IN FROM RELIABLE SOURCE, CANT RELEASE CUZ NDA~~~~
GAW went full ponzi and purchased CryptoDouble- where you can instantly double your BTC in 100hours!! Backed by $100m wall to prevent collapse and ensure our investor profits!*
*User understands $100m represents monopoly money. Double your BTC in 100 hours only applies if you are a founder and purchased a hashlet prime. Otherwise, expect 90% loss while we use your funds to rent a yacht and/or private jet.
what kind of gambling site do you feel the community is missing?
I know there are tons of dice sites. I have a good amount of programming skills and I'm fiending to start a new project.
Would anyone be interested in a 1v1 billiards game (probably 8 ball, maybe 9) with btc bets? Or a holdem or blackjack site?
Any suggestions would be awesome
Would anyone be interested in a 1v1 billiards game (probably 8 ball, maybe 9) with btc bets? Or a holdem or blackjack site?
Any suggestions would be awesome
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
You wonder why he owns his own forum? He has bots shilling for them.
Lmao real guy or not?
No way man, thats just not possible. Not even the most deranged person in the world can be THAT insanely metal.
Amazing photo though
Bitbop, old chap.
I have an exiting business idea to share with you! I will give you my wallet identifier to blockchain.io and you can deposit as much BTC as you want! My blockchain password is josg21149
In return i can send you pictures of me in time inc's bathroom, in the eleveator at amazon's headcorters and also a video of an exlcusive interview with cnn's janitor!
These are once in a lifetime opportunities. HODL PAYCOIN!!
Sincerest,
Joshy
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Yes they are. But that was not I was answering to. I was saying that the few transactions that are split in half and to the same address are the staking transactions. The other are indeed sales or transfers to other user owned wallets.
So, what part of Josh &Co are selling pre mined (FREE) coins do you not understand? Do you also believe that NONE of these pre mined coins have been dumped into the open market? How about the Tooth Fairy? You believe in that, too? Fools like you are why these scammers are able to keep repeating this same scam with a new coat of paint on the same turdwagon over and over.
What part of sales do you not understand?
I understand sales quite well. What part of "you have given a lot of money to a dirty, stinking, rotten, lying con man and now you are making yourself into an even bigger fool by defending him" do you not understand?
Also: I would like to ask you a question. WHY are you posting here? The dumbest of the dumb could figure out that you are not going to make a believer out of anyone who has read the proof of scam presented here, so WHY are you posting here?
So even when I agree with you you don't accept it? Why do I post here i'm really beginning to wonder that because even the simplest sentence are misunderstood.
I think your family should put you on suicide watch. You are clearly delusional and grasping for some magic excuse that will explain why you have not been taken for a fool by a con man. It does not exist. You have been Paycoined. When you finally wake up and realize what a fool you have been, and then pile on top of that your childish public defense of the shyster who played you for a fool, that is going to be one hard day to face, friend.
Calm down paul. It's very hard for most people to come to terms that they've been conned/scammed. I dont really see a childish public defense from daffy but what I do see is you acting like the "king of the hill" because of a justified sense of entitlement.
Let's remember, the point of this thread was to start a TWO SIDED discussion to question and discover what "GAW Zen Hashlet Paycoin" represents and not to laugh in the face of the unfortunate souls who got sucked in.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
With one of the directors of Amazon involved with the Ziftr coin think they will have a better chance with Amazon than paycoin
C Kindle isn't a director. He worked in software development for amazon and he's listed as a consultant for ziftr. He confirmed it via twitter https://twitter.com/ckindel/status/552530083047800834
ziftr is leaps and bound more "legit" than paycoin is or ever will be.
*edit*
I guess he is a director based on his linked in https://www.linkedin.com/in/ckindel , Director Consumer Products - Amazon Wallet, P2P, and Local Commerce. but not listed here http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=97664&p=irol-govmanage. Oh well.. im sure u get my point
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
No, it never does. Thanks for this analysis.
Glad to see you learned to think critically. Quick question though, why did you delete a lot of your posts from this topic?
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
@redacted answered my question on premine sales on HT
"You can tell they are NOT the premine, since those coins sit in prime controllers, and those prime controller addresses are are known and shown on the richlist. Believe me, there would be lots out outcry if any of the coins in prime controllers started moving out of thier wallet addresses and showing up for sale on exchanges."
well then where are the 1000S of coins sold on paybase coming from???
one guy alone posted a buy from paybase of about 488,000 xpy
"You can tell they are NOT the premine, since those coins sit in prime controllers, and those prime controller addresses are are known and shown on the richlist. Believe me, there would be lots out outcry if any of the coins in prime controllers started moving out of thier wallet addresses and showing up for sale on exchanges."
well then where are the 1000S of coins sold on paybase coming from???
one guy alone posted a buy from paybase of about 488,000 xpy
This again should be trivially simple. There has to be a true believer somewhere who bought a coin on paybase. Follow that coin back to where it was created. This coin isn't very old, it shouldn't be too hard.
Not a true believer, just testing the CC to see who the processor was.
If you want to spend some time tracing it, here are two purchases I made:
TXN: 5c3c2efa1cd2abb0e384ed5ce15ef041903d992fe94d13531186f6185f93dfaf
Address: PVGy8a4Ai2jUFVnWg4sowxzKNM2LdpCwmr
Amt: 25.698324 XPY
TXN: a80127b3756b88c4f9e3fb594fd99d7f0c3f7d8598b3e42a2e2bf43404c4cb18
Address: PVGy8a4Ai2jUFVnWg4sowxzKNM2LdpCwmr
Amt: 27.090858 XPY
Important note, the second purchase I just made now. What was different from the first:
1) I was asked to confirm my address (which was prefilled)
2) I was asked to confirm my credit card (including CCV) was was all prefilled
3) I was asked to type in my phone number. I INTENTIALLY put in a bogus phone number
4) The transaction was processed (again with a 10% fee), but the XPY was deposited immediately to my account (no hour wait this time).
5) The charge on my CC appears as the same "ONLINE SAN FRANSCISCO", which I believe is Stripe (so looks like CoinFire might be correct, that they just changed the merchant account, but continue to use Stripe for purchases).
Went ahead and just did a transaction excavation on: TXN: a80127b3756b88c4f9e3fb594fd99d7f0c3f7d8598b3e42a2e2bf43404c4cb18
Starting from the premine block:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?1.htm
To the premine block movements out to a 1,750,000 block:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?167.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?186.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?190.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?194.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?9616.htm
From that 1,750,000 premine dispersal to a 50,000 block:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?83905.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?139249.htm
From that 50,000 block through more dispersal to an almost 25,000 block:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?139351.htm
ttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?139867.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141151.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141698.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141698.htm
From that ~25,000 block through yet more dispersal to two approx equal blocks just over 12,000:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141732.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141761.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141767.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141796.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141858.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?141932.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?142048.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?142177.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?142362.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?142787.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?143015.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?143187.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?143275.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?143377.htm
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?144745.htm
From one of those ~12,000 blocks to two approx equal blocks just over 6,000:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?146064.htm
From one of those ~6,000 blocks to two approx equal blocks just over 3,000:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?147619.htm
From one of those ~3,000 blocks through even more dispersal to two approx equal blocks just under 1,500:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?148159.htm GAW sending coins to Bittrex?
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?149033.htm Bittrex again?
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?151682.htm
From one of those ~1,500 blocks to two approx equal blocks of around 740:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?155845.htm
From one of those ~740 blocks to two approx equal blocks of around 370:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?160085.htm
From one of those ~370 blocks to two approx equal blocks of 185:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?164542.htm
From one of those ~185 blocks to your transaction:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?a80127b3756b88c4f9e3fb594fd99d7f0c3f7d8598b3e42a2e2bf43404c4cb18.htm
And... that's how we prove they're using pre-mined coins to fulfill their PayBase orders...
The blockchain never lies.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Unrelated to the topic at hand.. but I thought this quote might foreshadow our beloved GAW_CEO since a lot of cloud mining companies are going belly up.
What an asshat to be gloating after the fact he took a bunch of BTC from everyone. I guess GAW_CEO's post would probably have *grinning* at the end though.
So, what's a good exchange to trade on nowdays?
What an asshat to be gloating after the fact he took a bunch of BTC from everyone. I guess GAW_CEO's post would probably have *grinning* at the end though.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Interesting...
Gaw just updated their sales page...:
http://www.gawminers.com/collections/all-miners
Now they are selling BitMain Antminers S3 and S4...
ZiG
Gaw just updated their sales page...:
http://www.gawminers.com/collections/all-miners
Now they are selling BitMain Antminers S3 and S4...
ZiG
I wonder if this is from them as well. Same price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S3-SHA256-Bitcoin-BTC-ASIC-Miner-453Ghs-USED-Not-S1-S2-/231447591461?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item35e359fa25
*edit*
Seems unlikely because of location.
Item location:
Elkridge, Maryland, United States
Ships to:
United States
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Nice find! I also googled 'josg21' and came across this other gem. It seems once the cogwheels started turning in the above post, and about feb 20, 2014 he started to think more about the numbers behind this scheme.
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/scrypt-hosted-contracts.264753/
http://snag.gy/d9lBk.jpg
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/scrypt-hosted-contracts.264753/
http://snag.gy/d9lBk.jpg
Apparently couldn't do math back then either. So how much is it per day?
Quote
.02. a day per KH
.13 a week per KH
.55 a day per KH
.13 a week per KH
.55 a day per KH
Lol. Although this information is very insightful in learning GAW_CEO's thought process.. the post itself is not damning. I'll stand-by what I said before. I don't think his goal was to make this a scam. I think he just got in way over his head and has no idea how to run a business.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
Here is all 3 pages of existing posts from Josh Garza here on his Josq21 account:
https://archive.today/bJslJ
https://archive.today/8iKfi
https://archive.today/ImGLA
P.S> Anyone notice these gems in Josh's posts here?
Oh, the IRONY!!!
https://archive.today/bJslJ
https://archive.today/8iKfi
https://archive.today/ImGLA
P.S> Anyone notice these gems in Josh's posts here?
Oh, the IRONY!!!
Lol that really is the definition of irony. Its also funny that he used to post on bitcointalk all the time, but when he opened hashtalk.org he decided that this forum is only for trolls. So isn't he labeling himself a troll by definition?
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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"It got plenty of attention, but KnC doesn't have a polarizing, singular figurehead to kick around like Josh, so it's not nearly as dramatic or sensational.
EDIT - if you're suggesting the josg21 user is Josh Garza, then come out and say so, and present evidence. Reading the post you have the screenshot of, though, I can tell you it is NOT Josh Garza (definitively)."
EDIT - if you're suggesting the josg21 user is Josh Garza, then come out and say so, and present evidence. Reading the post you have the screenshot of, though, I can tell you it is NOT Josh Garza (definitively)."
Challenge accepted.
Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)