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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 31/01/2016, 06:45:18 UTC
This is why I think this budget proposal system needs work.
Please don't take this as an attempt to derail the good work you have done however.

Where are the receipts. Where is the accountability.
you asked for funding and you got it. Why should you get additional funding due to the fact you misquoted and need further funds.

This isn't a personal attack either. I have no doubt the costs incurred are accurate and the work done on the machine was worth every cent.

There has to be a line drawn, This is where my previous comments come into play. Had we engaged a company who built vending machines every day. Who incorporated Crypto payments into these machines every day. Would we have had these issues?

This is where you say there isn't any one doing this kind of thing. To that all I have to say is.. There is a market to become a business based off the back of these kinds of projects.
If a business misquotes work they need to eat the costs.

You say you aren't a business. Then maybe we should start giving these kinds of jobs to someone who is a business.

Emit.



Reimbursement Proposal for the Dash N Drink Instantx Miami Demo.The team Put in an original proposal to cover the costs of this project. We later resubmitted for a lower amount to expedite payment. There were significant costs associated with designing, building, transporting, and demonstrating this piece of awesomeness. You have to admit, it was a hit!

Below are the itemized expenses which will appear on our TPS report.
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Extra show charge for electricity and additional space. $750
Additional expenses for soda machine compressor. $200
Additional expenses for paint, paint gun, and thinner. $200
Parking expenses for vehicle and trailer. $150
Mobile Data Used $100
5 PIs and other parts destroyed during testing. $320
Several burnt up power supplies. $100
Hotel Expenses $430

As you can see, the amount requested does not begin to cover actual expenses. We are fine with this.

Please Vote on this important topic

dash-cli mnbudget vote-many 1e477007d555f9f8919ecbe3b4c457b6f269184924771c0117fbb48751bf23d6 yes


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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 28/01/2016, 12:42:14 UTC
I'm glad this proposal hasn't passed yet. I hope people will see the logic.

What is interesting to me. Evan and Otoh haven't voted yet.
This is obvious based on the figures. Currently 245 yes and 243 no.

Often it's not whats said but whats not said which is most telling.

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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 28/01/2016, 11:47:16 UTC
If you want to create a business off the back of DASH do it with your own funding and your own steam.

Don't lose sight of what DASH is trying to achieve. It is not ready for the type of adoption you are asking funding for. Further more it's not the kind of growth you want.

It should not be the focus of DASH to figure out how to make it mainstream. it should be the focus of DASH to design a product that others want to make mainstream..

With all due respect, that's what this proposal IS trying to do.  The goal is to create open source software that can be used by any retail application.  Vending, gas pumps, mom and pop stores, chain stores, online retail.  ALL RETAIL.  The goal of this project is not to make money selling soda.

The focus of dash should be on Dash. If Dash focuses its efforts on development and creating a solid baseline / structure. Other companies will develop around Dash and create businesses that can utilise the technology.

The proposal feels like throwing money at people for the sake of throwing money at people.
If you walked into an office and said "give me money because I'll use it.. Honestly"

There is no company in the world that works that way.

I understand the requirement to create a decentralised project. Please do not take offence to this.

None of you are qualified to run / expand a company.

I am doing this because I want an option to buy things with my Dash. I own a solar company and do pretty well. I am not trying to collect an income with this project. This is merely a way to give back to Dash with a project that I believe will make it exponentially better. Camosoul also owns a business. We know how to make projects succeed even with short time frames or difficult challenges.

We are planning to allocate a lot of the funds to developers. We know the wallets will take time to add features, we will be asking for a lot of man-hours. The software to get the backends to work correctly isn't easy. We will also be working with server platforms and may need assistance from, likely, an outside party to get shopping carts to work correctly. We need to pay the people that do the work, and that isn't free. Each product will have unique challenges and we may need to seek outside help pay them for their time. We will also have the cost of the products we will be converting/building and parts needed to test properly.

We are charting new territory. I would like to say that we know how to do all this already and here is our cost breakdown, but we don't. We will learn as we go. This is where the excitement begins.

Most investors risk their funds to have a chance at a big win. This proposal is an opportunity that you don't even have to risk funds since they will be lost anyway. Why not put them to a good use? Pay our developers and expand the Dash Ecosystem.

If you think this project is ambitious, look at the Dash N Drink.  We refurbished and designed IX detection with bip32 deposits with a changing QR code, along with IX on three mobile wallets, and an awesome website in about a month.  It was also said to be impossible when announced.  We did it.  (moocowmoo deserves a ton of credit for all the help with the software, and wallet developers fulltimegeek, quantumexplorer, hashengineering deserve praise too, along with Raptor 3d, thedashguy website, oaxaca funding)  Rather than push through a project as fast as possible and keep almost all these guys(plus Camo and I) up to 4am each night, this one will be done one step at a time.  I feel like we took advantage of all the people that helped us on the Dash N Drink, and it isn't fair to set deadlines that may not be reasonable.

Thank you for your reply.

You are designing your business model around DASH. Thats a great thing, however it isn't the DASH ecosystem which should pay and fund your learning curve.
The work you did on the vending machine was great, no one can take that from you. That doesn't give you the right to be funded to learn how to grow your business further.

If you want to develop systems that evolve the DASH ecosystem, Good luck to you.

DASH should not be responsible for the cost of such a project.

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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 28/01/2016, 04:03:27 UTC
If you want to create a business off the back of DASH do it with your own funding and your own steam.

Don't lose sight of what DASH is trying to achieve. It is not ready for the type of adoption you are asking funding for. Further more it's not the kind of growth you want.

It should not be the focus of DASH to figure out how to make it mainstream. it should be the focus of DASH to design a product that others want to make mainstream..

With all due respect, that's what this proposal IS trying to do.  The goal is to create open source software that can be used by any retail application.  Vending, gas pumps, mom and pop stores, chain stores, online retail.  ALL RETAIL.  The goal of this project is not to make money selling soda.

The focus of dash should be on Dash. If Dash focuses its efforts on development and creating a solid baseline / structure. Other companies will develop around Dash and create businesses that can utilise the technology.

The proposal feels like throwing money at people for the sake of throwing money at people.
If you walked into an office and said "give me money because I'll use it.. Honestly"

There is no company in the world that works that way.

I understand the requirement to create a decentralised project. Please do not take offence to this.

None of you are qualified to run / expand a company.


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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 28/01/2016, 03:23:56 UTC
Evan raised some serious questions which haven't been answered and were in fact almost dismissed.

Evan. you need to take control, before your community destroys what you are building.

Companies need leaders not chaos, it's a romantic thought decentralised. It's not ready for that, yet.
Please don't ruin an incredible project by forgetting the goal and falling victim to peer pressure.

As an example, facebook became a household name because friendships were lost, Mr Zuckerberg did what he did because he had to for the good of his project.



This proposal is a mistake. Please consider the following.

There is zero information about how the funds are going to be allocated.
No directive for what will be achieved.
No Achievable's with mile stones.
No Accountability.

It is laughable that a proposal like this would get consideration.

DASH is its own entity. If you want to create a business off the back of DASH do it with your own funding and your own steam.

Don't lose sight of what DASH is trying to achieve. It is not ready for the type of adoption you are asking funding for. Further more it's not the kind of growth you want.

It should not be the focus of DASH to figure out how to make it mainstream. it should be the focus of DASH to design a product that others want to make mainstream..

Focus on the fundamental design of the product. Core funds should go to development, proposals need to go towards marketing and PR and development.

The vending machine was a gimmick. nothing more nothing less. Lammasu ATMS are a gimmick, nothing more nothing less.

Facebook didn't create computers so that people could use facebook.
People bought computers to use facebook.


The community is strong but please don't be ignorant enough to believe you know better than hundreds of years of business design and practice.

Evan. Please take control.


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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 25/01/2016, 09:53:15 UTC
I'll be honest, I am embarrassed to read DASH had a bikini girl at the latest conference.
Who ever made that decision should think about perception. I did not invest in shooters coin.

Agreed, as much as I like hot bikini girls....it didn't fit.  Maybe she made a few people look though.  Smiley

I didn't see anything like that in any if the photos of the booth.  I can't imagine that being sanctioned by the development team. I would want to see proof of this.  I saw pictures of their spouses in respectable attire only.

Someone's twitter showed her.
It was definitely not official. A community member took it upon himself to get this girl and have her hang out by the booth. It was quickly dealt with by conference staff, and other team members. Dash doesn't need to do these things, our innovation will do the talking.

EDIT: Here's the tweet in question:

https://twitter.com/fintechtrader/status/690261399205986305



I don't buy your assessment of the situation, are you an official information source who speaks on behalf of the DASH team?
Please take this down Tao, You are essentially spreading the FUD by posting that.

Aw, come on, one of our community members who lives in the area, who I won't name, brought his friend in who wore the bathing suit.  If you knew him, it's perfectly within his character, LOL.  The conference people did not approve and had her leave.  I don't think it lasted very long at all, and he's had his ears full of scolding off threads, so that's the end of that, and it's not really that big a deal, other than we didn't get a good picture of her Tongue  (I'm an old lady, and I'm not offended) They've used pretty girls in bikinis all my life to sell cars, so what the heck is it with everyone getting so damn prude in Miami of all places?  Whatever...!

You are right,  I don't know him. But I'm not likely to invest off the back of something he says or does either. I may formulate opinions based on what Andreas Antonopoulos says however. Which is how in the case I found out about the Bikini by the DASH machine.

Heres a study showing the negative impact on perception based on sex in advertising.

http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-bul0000018.pdf

I've said my piece now, keep fighting the good fight.

Emit
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 25/01/2016, 09:14:09 UTC
I'll be honest, I am embarrassed to read DASH had a bikini girl at the latest conference.
Who ever made that decision should think about perception. I did not invest in shooters coin.

Agreed, as much as I like hot bikini girls....it didn't fit.  Maybe she made a few people look though.  Smiley

I didn't see anything like that in any if the photos of the booth.  I can't imagine that being sanctioned by the development team. I would want to see proof of this.  I saw pictures of their spouses in respectable attire only.

Someone's twitter showed her.
It was definitely not official. A community member took it upon himself to get this girl and have her hang out by the booth. It was quickly dealt with by conference staff, and other team members. Dash doesn't need to do these things, our innovation will do the talking.

EDIT: Here's the tweet in question:

https://twitter.com/fintechtrader/status/690261399205986305



I don't buy your assessment of the situation, are you an official information source who speaks on behalf of the DASH team?
Please take this down Tao, You are essentially spreading the FUD by posting that.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 25/01/2016, 05:17:30 UTC
I'll be honest, I am embarrassed to read DASH had a bikini girl at the latest conference.
Who ever made that decision should think about perception. I did not invest in shooters coin.

That out of the way, I'm happy to have read a few great reviews of the bitcoin conference which included some good feedback on the DASH stand.
Keep up the good work, I'm looking forward to what comes next.

Emit
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 19/01/2016, 03:47:20 UTC
Hi All,

Congratulations on making another year, and the cheeky run in the past day or so. Could someone please answer a few questions for me.

Could transaction fees go towards something other than the miner / masternodes

What is the incentive for miners to keep mining if the reward keeps getting smaller, could they not get a better return mining elsewhere? What's keeping them mining dash?

is someone still doing masternode shares? I have 570 ish, it may as well get put to work until I have enough to host my own.

Aiming to be New Zealands first masternode, if I can still claim that.

Cheers,

Emit
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 18/01/2016, 01:16:14 UTC
Marketing and of course our soda machine!!!

If it's "ours" can I please have it in New Zealand at my work for a couple of days.
I can't justify buying soda to the wife. She doesn't even know about my DASH
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 08/01/2016, 01:27:44 UTC
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 17/12/2015, 21:28:54 UTC

This is the question people have been asking since the first experiments with democracy in Athens. Nobody has ever solved the problem, so I doubt we're going to either. The best anyone can come up with is: a) civic responsibility, b) sometimes your vote really does matter.

Exactly. People vote when it matters to them which is why it's reasonable that the ones who ARE voting deserve to be heard over those that aren't IMO.

In the Scottish referendum on independence, people came out of the woodwork from all over the place to vote - people who had never even registered to vote before. There was such strength of feeling on both sides that nearly the entire population voted. On the other hand, in European elections - which actually do matter regarding certain areas of policy - you're lucky if 30% turnout.

The thing about Dash's voting system is that - unlike democracy - you can buy yourself votes.

Earlier today, emitkirby made this remark:

Otoh, I respect your right to make investments however the size of your investment in DASH gives you a lot of power. This is something I believe is holding potential investors back.

Although I think this is a reasonable view with regard to democracy, I don't really think it's reasonable with regard to governance of a capital asset. The whole point of commercially traded assets is that you weild more influence over their governance the more you acquire. So the fact that Dash is doing justice to this principle should attract investors, not inhibit them. This principle applies universally in commerce. The fact that Steve Jobs held a huge number of shares in Pixar didn't inhibit people from investing in Pixar. Dash is a private currency - not a public one created by a central bank and backed by public debt.

Clarity is required. I don't see any other way that allowing large holders to wield more influence than small ones. In fact I think it's essential - it just gives them more responsibility thats all because the merits of their decision making (or in Dash's case, the decentralised will of the holders) will determine the propensity for others to invest.

If the governance process (however many participate) makes crap decisions then the asset will go down the tubes. If it is seen to take sensible, well thought out and generally 'safe' decisions then  the asset will grow and attract more users.

In conclusion I don't think it makes a damn bit of difference whether 1 person votes or 1000. It's not the number of votes but the quality of the decision making that's important. If only 20 people care passionately whether Dashwhale gets a blockchain sponsorship and only those 20 people vote, then thats better than 200 people voting where the other 180 don't have a particular view IMO.

However, the fact that many people can "jam their foot in the door" in a crisis over a critical issue if so required is a hugely powerful backstop against corruption.

I like Dash's governance model. Everytime I try to "think my way out of it" I keep coming back to the way it is - an uneasy but ultimately very powerful and well secured blend of capital & popular democracy. It also puts a lot of trust in the holders to make good decisions so it's an open book which makes it "alive" and appealing.


Thanks toknormal. I appreciate your views. I'm not likely to post often here but I have been reading this thread daily since page 1500 or so. I don't always understand. Nor for the most part do I really care about the daily ins and outs. As a project I can see a future and I appreciate the work that needs to go in the back end.

Carry on doing the good work. Like I said previously I hope this project does well.

Cheers,

Emit.
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Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX
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emitkirby
on 17/12/2015, 00:53:38 UTC
I've registered today for the first time since buying 570 DASH at the height of the Darkcoin bubble. I've got about $7000 NZD invested which is $4732 USD in todays value.

A move which in todays market would make me about $2000 NZD return. As an investment I made a huge mistake playing the short game. I'm holding for the long game which I hope will make a reasonable return.

Now that my cards are on the table I would like to lay down some thoughts.

Evolution sounds great, I hope you can pull it off. That being said.

Evan you are not transparent enough. Having just read that you alone control the budget system and can pass all budgets with 10% of the vote bothers me. I'm sure you are a busy man but for this system to work and gain momentum you need to stop creating situations where you unfairly control portions of the system.

Otoh, I respect your right to make investments however the size of your investment in DASH gives you a lot of power. This is something I believe is holding potential investors back.

I believe this was meant to take control away from any one person or entity and you are engineering a system where you have total control.

I will continue to hold DASH for the foreseeable future because it's simply not worth it to me to sell.

I hope you don't ruin my investment with greed or the inability to see the forest from the trees.

Emit.