I agree bitcoind on a full node handles collecting transactions and forming the base work block in form of the GBT (GetBlockTemplate) data which is pulled by the pool, But I was under the impression that the pool software had to construct the block header using GBT to be worked on by the miners in the pool, and on CKpool specifically this is a unique block header for each different payout address (miner) because it is included in the header, this facilitates CK's unique function of not receiving the block reward and allowing it to be paid directly to the miner wallet by the network and only gets paid his 2% directly. 

Thats my understanding...
I was hoping to get a better feel for what is actually sent back and forth between the pool software and the miners... there is little online that actually describes the protocol and the data structures,  acknowledgements  - how does the pool know the miner needs more data ? does it do a pull request or something? If a miner finds a block how does it tell the pool?
You know just some mild curiosity about just what the hell is going on in there ... beyond "Yup it works, look away before it sees you and stops working" 🤨
Thanks

According to my observation, there are thousands of users, there are those who are TH-level stable every day, and there are lottery GH-level ones, and then there are super fund-raising PH-level ones, and many masters often say that the various factors behind luck cannot be obtained. I know, but we looked at various types of pools, and the lively discussion was whether the Kanban managers and topic seekers would resonate with each other, let alone delete articles and speeches from time to time
  When the so-called degree of luck is removed, and the degree of everyone's investment, from individual shares to pool shares, whether it is normal or delayed or what other issues are lost to the possibility of hitting, probably only those experts can explain the problem

Question on hashrate dependencies.
(note: I searched the forum for previous posts and saw some info but figured it's been a while and perhaps things have changed)

How accurate are the reported hasrates, and how much of a lag is there in their data shown?

Regarding lag, ie how recent is the 1min and 5 min (how often is this refreshed or updated at the pool)?

And in terms of accuracy, how close should the ASIC end and pool end be, ie I'm normally +/- 1.5% (or less) in difference but at times there's a nearly 10% (or more) discrepancy. Recently I noticed this, had 9 ASICs pointing here and 1 was way off (for hours) at the pool, while on my end they all seemed to be the same.

Lastly, I know it's not crucial data (yes, all that matters is luck and hitting a block), but I'm just curious and since it has been quiet here lately thought it would be a good time to ask. Once again thanks in advance to all the folks who provide any constructive info on this, it's always appreciated! TY!

How did we go from 1 possible 2 to none? Its hard enough to hit 1. This just ruined my week, and I was not even in on it.

There is a lot of confusion that one needs to clear before understanding how all of this works, it's best to start with some basic definitions of key words, those key works would:

1- Random:

Source:https://pages.jh.edu/virtlab/course-info/ei/notes/uncertainty_notes.pdf

2. Probability:

Soruce:https://pages.jh.edu/virtlab/course-info/ei/notes/uncertainty_notes.pdf


Back you to question, the likelihood aka probability for a faster hashrate to get a higher share is HIGHER than that slower hashrate, but given that those are random events you can't be too sure that this will be the case unless measured against infinity, probably in a vacuum where nothing else could affect the probability of the events.

If you were to check the best share of two random miners, one with 10th and another with 100th, it's likely that the 100th will have a larger best share, it isn't exactly 50/50, because if you were to check 100 miners with 10th vs 100 miners with 100th you are a lot more likely to find higher best shares on the second group, if you check a sample of 1000 each, it's even more likely that the second group will have a better average best share, 1 million is even better, infinity is best (although one could argue that infinity doesn't exist in the first place  ).

Thinking about mining and shares could be confusing to most people, it would be better to just imagine a scenario where you go hunting with another person, both of you are blindfolded, and it's 3am, your gun fires 100 bullets a minute, his does 200 bullets a minute, every now and then a rabbit runs in front of you ( you can't see it, so skills here are ignored), so the two of you randomly fire 300 bullets at those poor rabbits, it's very possible that you could hit more rabbits than him in the first minute (Luck), but if you both keep shooting at the same pace for 1 hour, it's more likely that he would kill double the number of rabbits given that he takes more shots than you do (Probability).

Best share in our hunting example is like the "nearest shot to a rabbit you had so far" pretty meaningless when you are blindingly shooting at moving rabbits, it doesn't matter if your last shot was only 1cm or 1m away from the rabbit head, the rabbit is moving, your hands are shaking, it means exactly nothing because the following shots will not depend on that and are not affected by it or by any event that happened in the past, every shot you take is a completely independent event and has the exact same chances of hitting a rabbit as any other bullet that you fired or may fire in the future.

If block share is 1000, and a 1th miner has best share of 999 while 10th miner has only 10 best share, it doesn't change the fact that the second miners is 10 times more likely to hit a block than the first one.



 

you have 2 trillion shares

difficulty is 53 trillion


normal luck means you would hit a block in 53 trillion shares.

basically spin a single die six times and normal luck means you get a six in six spins.

obviously you could get the six in 1 spin

but you could do 20 spins and not get a six.

so with solo mining 1 single share could hit a block

or 53 trillion shares or in the worse case as many as 530 trillion shares maybe as many as 760 trillion

shares. but to go as high as 760 trillion shares would be like spinning a die a few hundred times and not getting a six.

doing 2 trillion shares  means you did 2/53 of normal luck.

So if you hit soon you are way ahead of the game.

you have 2 trillion shares

difficulty is 53 trillion


normal luck means you would hit a block in 53 trillion shares.

basically spin a single die six times and normal luck means you get a six in six spins.

obviously you could get the six in 1 spin

but you could do 20 spins and not get a six.

so with solo mining 1 single share could hit a block

Then the question is why the BS value is random, not the faster the computing power, the faster the record, and some people have not updated it for many days at all, and there is the so-called luck of changing wallets

or 53 trillion shares or in the worse case as many as 530 trillion shares maybe as many as 760 trillion

shares. but to go as high as 760 trillion shares would be like spinning a die a few hundred times and not getting a six.

doing 2 trillion shares  means you did 2/53 of normal luck.

So if you hit soon you are way ahead of the game.

Seeing people mostly in 12 digits in shares, is there anyone out there who has 13 digits and still hasn't hit the ancient player?

 

Ok. I'm definitely not going to hit a block in my lifetime. But there is hope.

and its over 11 days at 1ph = zip  


https://solo.ckpool.org/users/3NwurtiKe8GrpVdZGYEESY5N1DQqUboQWz


"shares": 223521937098,

"bestshare": 329105275012.7132,

I currently carry these shares, 14 figures: 1,489,629,580,868

The best share is: 1337065702670

And the best since the last block hit: 5772452048

The last blocks found had about 10 or 14 times fewer shares than me..... A lot of luck to them..
Very very difficult to hit….

1,697,962,680,737 = 13 figures


currently this long 1 ph run

https://solo.ckpool.org/users/3NwurtiKe8GrpVdZGYEESY5N1DQqUboQWz

did 329,105,275,012 which is 12


it has

159,980,062,399 shares but you never know.

The energy cost of this seems to be very considerable
 

 "bestever": 10502625331917,