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Tu peux investir dans les actions françaises, les frais de courtage sont très faibles. Tu as plusieurs plateformes dont degiro qui est pas mal. mais il y en a d'autre comme boursorama mais les frais sont élevés.
A titre personnel, j'ai mis 1600€ en juillet sur l'action Lexibook, et j'ai cloturé ma position à 1870€ aujourd'hui. Un profit de 16%.
C'est une action que je suis de près, je pense qu'elle va évoluer, j'attend qu'elle redescende un peu. Je me base principalement sur les résultats financier trimestrielles / semestrielles des entreprises françaises sur Zonebourse et je regarde si l'action est en bonne santé et si elle à un potentiel de hausse à l'achat.
Voilà mon expérience sur les actions, il y a surement d'autres bonnes idées sur ce forum ! peut-être plus rentable. Celle là est pour moi le plus "safe".
Bon courage
A titre personnel, j'ai mis 1600€ en juillet sur l'action Lexibook, et j'ai cloturé ma position à 1870€ aujourd'hui. Un profit de 16%.
C'est une action que je suis de près, je pense qu'elle va évoluer, j'attend qu'elle redescende un peu. Je me base principalement sur les résultats financier trimestrielles / semestrielles des entreprises françaises sur Zonebourse et je regarde si l'action est en bonne santé et si elle à un potentiel de hausse à l'achat.
Voilà mon expérience sur les actions, il y a surement d'autres bonnes idées sur ce forum ! peut-être plus rentable. Celle là est pour moi le plus "safe".
Bon courage
The other partner is working on website, and mainly on the texts, he does not have time to take care of the forum. I take care of IT development.
I answer you out of courtesy
we have already talked a lot,
please stay tuned, on the post
I answer you out of courtesy
we have already talked a lot,
please stay tuned, on the post
"Gigatree transactions will plant one billion trees and ten billion plants each year" - this is of course a very good intention, but it seems to me very difficult to implement 
The goal is high but not impossible, if we can achieve 10-20% of the goal. It would be amazing
So you're caught up and tripping with your own statements and can't address to my questions without tangling yourself further and decided to play fool by not replying me? May I start questioning the credibility of this project?
Hello Miiike,
plase, be patient
We will be updating frequently. You will have to wait for the information like everyone else.
You will be kept informed on this post as I told you previously.
I can't reply to all your messages, that would mean I have to do the X2 job. (website and bitcointalk)
thanks for understanding
"Gigatree transactions will plant one billion trees and ten billion plants each year" - this is of course a very good intention, but it seems to me very difficult to implement
The goal is high but not impossible, if we can achieve 10-20% of the goal. It would be amazing
This is not my first time in this thread, last time I was hoping to see a little more information here as it seems interesting to me. Problems with CO2 is very important in our days
Hello meetAm,
I am happy to hear that you are interested in the project, we will keep you informed as soon as possible.
Obviously, growing a billion trees will only be possible if there is enthusiasm for the project.
1 billion is the long-term goal.
If we can already gather people to buy and use the Gigatree in trade and commerce.
This figure is completely feasible.
This is what the crowdfunding, application, website will be used for, to bring together.
1 billion is the long-term goal.
If we can already gather people to buy and use the Gigatree in trade and commerce.
This figure is completely feasible.
This is what the crowdfunding, application, website will be used for, to bring together.
Environment part
Ecology is not just a question of volunteering. People have jobs to solve environmental problems
In NGOs, we can have employees and we need them. Voluntarism at its limits when you have big goals people cannot give 100% of their time to volunteering and creating jobs is good for our economy.
I have probably less skills than a forester but I know the world of work and how teams could work together for a great project.
Our involvement will allow us to solve each problem one by one.
You are talking about a larger organization that also has a project to plant 500 million to 1B trees (savages, not for IKEA) per year, tell me which one, because it is the engine of this project.
Also,
you forgot the most important. We will donate 50% of our profits to afforestation and reforestation NGOs, because they don't have enough money and Gigatree must learn from NGOs to create his own. win win project
Technology part
"why should people use your swap platform instead of other existing ones"
It's not just a swap platform. Gigatree is a digital currency where you can trade and speculate at transfer rates that are faster and cheaper than crypto.
Like cryptos you can easily get interested since the token will be sold more expensive the next day. So you can sell it for more or less every day.
We bring finance technology to the service of NGOs
Ecology is not just a question of volunteering. People have jobs to solve environmental problems
In NGOs, we can have employees and we need them. Voluntarism at its limits when you have big goals people cannot give 100% of their time to volunteering and creating jobs is good for our economy.
I have probably less skills than a forester but I know the world of work and how teams could work together for a great project.
Our involvement will allow us to solve each problem one by one.
You are talking about a larger organization that also has a project to plant 500 million to 1B trees (savages, not for IKEA) per year, tell me which one, because it is the engine of this project.
Also,
you forgot the most important. We will donate 50% of our profits to afforestation and reforestation NGOs, because they don't have enough money and Gigatree must learn from NGOs to create his own. win win project
Technology part
"why should people use your swap platform instead of other existing ones"
It's not just a swap platform. Gigatree is a digital currency where you can trade and speculate at transfer rates that are faster and cheaper than crypto.
Like cryptos you can easily get interested since the token will be sold more expensive the next day. So you can sell it for more or less every day.
We bring finance technology to the service of NGOs
I did research on the feasibility of the project and it turns out that planting a 1€ tree is impossible
https://www.reforestaction.com/ 9 millions trees planted since 2009 > As a reminder we need 1000 billion trees
https://www.coeurdeforet.com/ NGO plant in multiple countries > 720 000 trees in 2020
https://ishpingo.org/ NGO plant in amazonia > 400 000 trees since 2005
You can find many NGOs, they don't plant many trees quickly enough to effectively counter global warming
COST OF A TREE
12€ is an average cost, it may vary depending on several factors.
land in the countryside costs around € 25,000 in France for 10,000m2 2,5€ per m2
A minimum of 4m2 is needed for a tree to grow properly and to leave space for plants around
Which makes 10 € per tree
So a gardener can plant an average of 10 trees per hour. with a gross salary of 2300 €, that gives us a labor cost of 1.57 €
The price also depends on the type of tree you choose
1€ it's the price for a little tree ( 1.06 exactly for an order of 12.000 trees) 20-30 cm
You can check price here :
https://www.planfor.fr/achat,chene-liege,1033,FR
this tree is one of the cheapest and it is "resistant" to forest fires, he can reborn without help
but of course we can not only plant one species of trees, biodiversity is important
Total: 12.63 € without including water cost, tools, truck and maintenance
https://www.reforestaction.com/ 9 millions trees planted since 2009 > As a reminder we need 1000 billion trees
https://www.coeurdeforet.com/ NGO plant in multiple countries > 720 000 trees in 2020
https://ishpingo.org/ NGO plant in amazonia > 400 000 trees since 2005
You can find many NGOs, they don't plant many trees quickly enough to effectively counter global warming
COST OF A TREE
12€ is an average cost, it may vary depending on several factors.
land in the countryside costs around € 25,000 in France for 10,000m2 2,5€ per m2
A minimum of 4m2 is needed for a tree to grow properly and to leave space for plants around
Which makes 10 € per tree
So a gardener can plant an average of 10 trees per hour. with a gross salary of 2300 €, that gives us a labor cost of 1.57 €
The price also depends on the type of tree you choose
1€ it's the price for a little tree ( 1.06 exactly for an order of 12.000 trees) 20-30 cm
You can check price here :
https://www.planfor.fr/achat,chene-liege,1033,FR
this tree is one of the cheapest and it is "resistant" to forest fires, he can reborn without help
but of course we can not only plant one species of trees, biodiversity is important
Total: 12.63 € without including water cost, tools, truck and maintenance
Buying a tree and planting it is relatively expensive, around 10€.
There are already companies that sell trees and NGO but they only plant a few million.
Gigatree aims to plant 200-800 million trees per year with the help of its payment system only with the fees.
The Gigatree project is to give. By donating 50% of its profits to NGOs and 50% to create our own NGO
Gigatree cannot plant trees alone, it needs partner associations that are already in the afforestation sector.
There are already companies that sell trees and NGO but they only plant a few million.
Gigatree aims to plant 200-800 million trees per year with the help of its payment system only with the fees.
The Gigatree project is to give. By donating 50% of its profits to NGOs and 50% to create our own NGO
Gigatree cannot plant trees alone, it needs partner associations that are already in the afforestation sector.
So all information will be available in december on the website, waiting for it. Also hope to see technical documents and social networks soon 
We work on it
It's a digital currency that you can use with a simple API. We do not use the Bitcoin protocol or ETH protocol.
the only thing you have to do is buy the token in presale at a starting price of 0.10 € (presale start in february by a crowdfunding way)
You can exchange it using our API (coding, you have to be developper).
If you are not developper :
You can also exchange it using our website or mobile application or an another exchange platform who uses the gigatree.
You will just need the address of a user who uses gigatree. or an address of another gigatree wallet that you hold to make an exchange. simple like "Bonjour"
If you don't know how to communicate with an API. I don't know how to explain it otherwise since the whole Gigatree will communicate through our API.
if you still don't understand how it works, i will put the website online next month with a presentation of the main services offered by gigatree.
the only thing you have to do is buy the token in presale at a starting price of 0.10 € (presale start in february by a crowdfunding way)
You can exchange it using our API (coding, you have to be developper).
If you are not developper :
You can also exchange it using our website or mobile application or an another exchange platform who uses the gigatree.
You will just need the address of a user who uses gigatree. or an address of another gigatree wallet that you hold to make an exchange. simple like "Bonjour"
If you don't know how to communicate with an API. I don't know how to explain it otherwise since the whole Gigatree will communicate through our API.
if you still don't understand how it works, i will put the website online next month with a presentation of the main services offered by gigatree.
So to put it in a simple word: you're a coin, with a "swap" platform, that can also be bought on exchanges that (in the future) list your trading pair?
Absolutely,
with the possibility to create your own coin hosted on our server for 0.01% fees on each transaction.
Your introductory is too long compared on the project description. People will not even notice that your project is an exchange that used the profit in transaction fee for planting plants to fight global warming. Your official website is not accessible for people outside EU and your twitter account language is not English. Doing research about your project is very complicated, No identity of the team behind it, no whitepaper and no concrete details for the distribution of money for planting expenses.
You right, all of these will be availables on the website in december. Patience
Ok, so I've read your opening post for like... more than 10 times (I honestly lost count on the 6th time I read them) and I still can't be sure I grasped what you tried to offer. The tree part, I got it. The using blockchain fees etc etc. to buy trees, I got it. But how do you propose we re converting those transaction on (say, like) etherchain to your project?
Good question, there is no blockchain. It's a brand new API protocol. ( if you want you can call it Gigachain )
The Gigatree use a new protocol system with a new exchange platform, the GigaExchange
Like you can exchange Euro to Gigatree and Euro to Bitcoin. You could Exchange Bitcoin to Gigatree and Gigatree to Euro with withdrawal system.
All of this services will possible using the web platform, application and using the API, so you can make many applications using this technology.
API is simple to use to offer the possibility of all developpers to use it.
I'm thinking to share the possibility of every developers to create their own coin using our API system with the possibility to modify the fees amount but with a 0.02% minimum fees on each transactions going to gigatree to pay the network maintenance.
Possibilities are infinite and easy to set up
This made me even more puzzled. So what exactly do you offer? A new blockchain (although you said there is no blockchain) called gigachain? An exchange called gigaexchange? An API? A simple token?
It's a digital currency that you can use with a simple API. We do not use the Bitcoin protocol or ETH protocol.
the only thing you have to do is buy the token in presale at a starting price of 0.10 € (presale start in february by a crowdfunding way)
You can exchange it using our API (coding, you have to be developper).
If you are not developper :
You can also exchange it using our website or mobile application or an another exchange platform who uses the gigatree.
You will just need the address of a user who uses gigatree. or an address of another gigatree wallet that you hold to make an exchange. simple like "Bonjour"
If you don't know how to communicate with an API. I don't know how to explain it otherwise since the whole Gigatree will communicate through our API.
if you still don't understand how it works, i will put the website online next month with a presentation of the main services offered by gigatree.
Ok, so I've read your opening post for like... more than 10 times (I honestly lost count on the 6th time I read them) and I still can't be sure I grasped what you tried to offer. The tree part, I got it. The using blockchain fees etc etc. to buy trees, I got it. But how do you propose we re converting those transaction on (say, like) etherchain to your project?
Good question, there is no blockchain. It's a brand new API protocol. ( if you want you can call it Gigachain )
The Gigatree use a new protocol system with a new exchange platform, the GigaExchange
Like you can exchange Euro to Gigatree and Euro to Bitcoin. You could Exchange Bitcoin to Gigatree and Gigatree to Euro with withdrawal system.
All of this services will possible using the web platform, application and using the API, so you can make many applications using this technology.
API is simple to use to offer the possibility of all developpers to use it.
I'm thinking to share the possibility of every developers to create their own coin using our API system with the possibility to modify the fees amount but with a 0.02% minimum fees on each transactions going to gigatree to pay the network maintenance.
Possibilities are infinite and easy to set up
Hello sukoyomi, this is a very interesting remark.
Today we want to communicate in our local language which is much simpler since we will be working with local associations at first.
When the gigatree will have passed this barrier we will be able to wonder about the creation of an English twitter account.
Currently if you want more information in your language, you need to translate the tweets.
or
Stay up to date on this bitcointalk info page
Today we want to communicate in our local language which is much simpler since we will be working with local associations at first.
When the gigatree will have passed this barrier we will be able to wonder about the creation of an English twitter account.
Currently if you want more information in your language, you need to translate the tweets.
or
Stay up to date on this bitcointalk info page
Nom du projet : Gigatree
Contexte : On est d'accord aujourd'hui le bitcoin génère autant de CO2 que la suisse ou la suède. Les frais de transactions vont entre 1€ et 3€ pour de petits paiements, voir même 12€ sur l'ETH aux jours de pointes et ces mêmes frais de transactions retournent aux mineurs qui consomment encore plus d'énergie pour acheter de nouvelles cartes graphiques toujours plus puissantes. C'est pas très vert tout ça... sachant qu'il y a à peine 300 000 utilisateurs du bitcoin réguliers par jours, je vous laisse imaginer la dépense énergétique du minage si tout le monde utilisait ce moyen de paiement pour payer sa baguette de pain.
Le concept : Pour palier à ce problème, je vous propose de créer un token centralisé où il n'y pas de preuves de minages, où les frais de transactions sont de 0.05% ( soit 5centimes pour 100€ ) et où chaque transactions finance la plantation 200 millions d'arbres / an et de projets écologiques.
Les premiers tokens seront vendus en préventes par crowdfunding sur kisskissbankbank.
Une fois la vente terminés et les premiers jetons émis. le token sera vendu sur le site gigatree de cette façon par le biais de bouche à oreilles, influenceurs, association agroforestières, partenariats et compagnies...
Prix de départ : 0.10€ cts
Augmentation par jours : +0.01€cts
Multiplicateur de l'augmentation journalière chaque 1er janvier : X2
Gigatree fixe le prix, à chaque jour passé, vous êtes déjà gagnant, vous pouvez revendre votre Gigatree à un prix légèrement inférieur à celui du site mais lisez bien la suite :
Le gigatree atteindra la valeur de 100 000€ en 2035, à ce moment là plus aucun gigatree ne sera mis en vente et donc "plus d'augmentation" du gigatree, la spéculation devient plus compliqué puisque le prix d'achat n'est plus fixé par le site mais encore possible ! L'offre et la demande prend entièrement le relai.
En investissant donc dans le gigatree aujourd'hui :
Technologie (attention cette partie peut-être barbante):
L'ensemble est centralisé en utilisant une base de donnée cryptée (bcrypt). Le tout connecté à un serveur principale et serveurs relais sous Node.js qui gère l'ensemble des requêtes des particuliers et e-commerçants.
Le front web utilise l'API principale et de même pour l'application mobile sous react Native compatible iPhone / Android.
Vos remarques :
J'ai déjà commencer le projet et j'aimerais lancer la campagne de prévente sur kisskissbankbank début février en partenariat avec des associations d'agroforesteries. Vos remarques sont importantes pour lancer ce projet, dites-moi ce que vous en pensez.
Le twitter : https://twitter.com/paybytrees
Contexte : On est d'accord aujourd'hui le bitcoin génère autant de CO2 que la suisse ou la suède. Les frais de transactions vont entre 1€ et 3€ pour de petits paiements, voir même 12€ sur l'ETH aux jours de pointes et ces mêmes frais de transactions retournent aux mineurs qui consomment encore plus d'énergie pour acheter de nouvelles cartes graphiques toujours plus puissantes. C'est pas très vert tout ça... sachant qu'il y a à peine 300 000 utilisateurs du bitcoin réguliers par jours, je vous laisse imaginer la dépense énergétique du minage si tout le monde utilisait ce moyen de paiement pour payer sa baguette de pain.
Le concept : Pour palier à ce problème, je vous propose de créer un token centralisé où il n'y pas de preuves de minages, où les frais de transactions sont de 0.05% ( soit 5centimes pour 100€ ) et où chaque transactions finance la plantation 200 millions d'arbres / an et de projets écologiques.
Les premiers tokens seront vendus en préventes par crowdfunding sur kisskissbankbank.
Une fois la vente terminés et les premiers jetons émis. le token sera vendu sur le site gigatree de cette façon par le biais de bouche à oreilles, influenceurs, association agroforestières, partenariats et compagnies...
Prix de départ : 0.10€ cts
Augmentation par jours : +0.01€cts
Multiplicateur de l'augmentation journalière chaque 1er janvier : X2
Gigatree fixe le prix, à chaque jour passé, vous êtes déjà gagnant, vous pouvez revendre votre Gigatree à un prix légèrement inférieur à celui du site mais lisez bien la suite :
Le gigatree atteindra la valeur de 100 000€ en 2035, à ce moment là plus aucun gigatree ne sera mis en vente et donc "plus d'augmentation" du gigatree, la spéculation devient plus compliqué puisque le prix d'achat n'est plus fixé par le site mais encore possible ! L'offre et la demande prend entièrement le relai.
En investissant donc dans le gigatree aujourd'hui :
- Vos paiements sont sécurisés et instantanés, en cas de fraude, un intervenant peut vérifier la transaction en investiguant à l'aide des preuves fournis.
- Votre wallet est créé en 1 clic depuis votre compte Gigatree
- Vous pouvez acheter / vendre / échanger / dépenser vos Gigatrees. Le marketplace permet d'acheter des gigatrees contre des cryptos et vice versa avec des utilisateurs qui veulent vendre leur cryptos contre des gigatrees
- Votre boulanger ou votre commerce préféré payera moins de frais de transactions et ces frais serviront à financer la plantation de 200millions d'arbres/an dès 2030 contre 1 million pour paypal à ce jour.
- En tant qu'investisseur Vous pourrez vous balader avec votre famille dans les parcs Gigatree avec votre famille.
- Vous permettez la création d'un monde plus propre, plus vert, tout le monde est gagnant.
Technologie (attention cette partie peut-être barbante):
L'ensemble est centralisé en utilisant une base de donnée cryptée (bcrypt). Le tout connecté à un serveur principale et serveurs relais sous Node.js qui gère l'ensemble des requêtes des particuliers et e-commerçants.
Le front web utilise l'API principale et de même pour l'application mobile sous react Native compatible iPhone / Android.
Vos remarques :
J'ai déjà commencer le projet et j'aimerais lancer la campagne de prévente sur kisskissbankbank début février en partenariat avec des associations d'agroforesteries. Vos remarques sont importantes pour lancer ce projet, dites-moi ce que vous en pensez.
Le twitter : https://twitter.com/paybytrees