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I think you have to talk with your bank, and not with MtGox, actually I think they're doing everything they can to solve your problem. They don't have real influence over the transactions, probably is the bank that its screwing it up.
The people who believe that wealth is not unlimited are the same people who think that if one person is becoming wealthly it is done so at the expense of others. This is the belief that encompasses the idea that, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer." Which is totally false because the standard of living for any society is based on the amount of goods and services produced. So if someone is creating lots of wealth in the form of producing lots of goods and services then that person is making everyone's life better because we now have more goods and services to consume.
It's not the quantity of goods alone that improves quality of life. How are the masses of discarded low-quality goods piled in landfills improving anyone's quality of life?
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Same thing happens when you say "This country is prosperous because it has a hight GBP index". And it is a total fallacy.
Re: Price drop below $10 will set back bitcoin one year or more
I really laught about the idea that are miners that control the price rise or fall ... really nowdays miners are just only people crying for profit, the real price is driven by the speculators, and how much they're willing to pay for.
Yes it is finally coming down. It does not make sense at $20. There is no value currenctly in owning this currency other than the long term potential if it does ever make a valid currency.
If you are willing to wait some years and hold it as an investment, it should be priced less than $10 dollars because of the high risk of it failing.
Who ever pays $20 or higher now as a long term investment is way overpaying because of all the risk.
It should keep falling down to less than $10.
If you are willing to wait some years and hold it as an investment, it should be priced less than $10 dollars because of the high risk of it failing.
Who ever pays $20 or higher now as a long term investment is way overpaying because of all the risk.
It should keep falling down to less than $10.
Less than $10 with the current difficulty lvl ?
Remember that miners are the biggest source of bitcoins in this moment. I'm sure they aren't willing to lose cash.
Miners don't control Supply / Demand they are just affected by the consequences.
Reading this thread made me nervous. 
I have a question.
What is the maximum time/days a person can chargeback on paypal?
I have a question.
What is the maximum time/days a person can chargeback on paypal?
Same question here.
Hi terminator.
Look, my first PP account was validated an year ago with those credit cards and I had no issues. if you can recommend me another web page that includes Prepaid cards to validate PAYPAL... because Im not from the US.
Look, my first PP account was validated an year ago with those credit cards and I had no issues. if you can recommend me another web page that includes Prepaid cards to validate PAYPAL... because Im not from the US.
Hi.
Since my PAYPAL account is on red now
I need another one. If somebody with Libery Reserve could buy me a VCC http://www.virtual-cc.com/en and give me the data I would be gratefull. I can give 0.60 BTC, at 18 U$D exchange is: 10.8 U$D. The VCC costs 7.50 U$D.
If anybody is interested please contact me via PM.
Since my PAYPAL account is on red now
I need another one. If somebody with Libery Reserve could buy me a VCC http://www.virtual-cc.com/en and give me the data I would be gratefull. I can give 0.60 BTC, at 18 U$D exchange is: 10.8 U$D. The VCC costs 7.50 U$D.If anybody is interested please contact me via PM.
Followed the link to this thread from the BCM website. I just wanted to say that I for one, really appreciate that BCM allowed the use of PayPal. After reading all of these horror stories in this thread I feel very lucky. I'm one of the people who got in during the open registration, and I have sold several BitCoins, through BCM and PayPal, over the last couple weeks and have had no problems at all. So far anyways. I do however feel that PayPal is not the way to continue with BCM. Although it has been working fine for me with BTC thus far, I have had issues with it in the past while selling 'non-tangible' items. However, I understand that for many people it is very convenient, and even in some cases, the only means of doing BTC transactions. Many of the suggestions posted in this thread will help solving the issue with PayPal, but I think that the right answer is to simply stop using them at BCM. I'm in the same boat with everyone that is wanting to use Dwolla. It looks like an excellent alternative to PayPal, and I would like to see it used at BCM as well.
The issue here is that Dwolla is limited to the US if im correct.
But is it cheap to do that?
And if I have to go to the postal office every time that I do a transaction would be very annoying.
I prefer to focus on bitcoinmarket security measures.
Thats nice. But first How do you buy the bitcoins ?. And, where is the benefit there?. If I want to sell all my bitcoins and my only method is PAYPAL I can't... because I must always have some bitcoins in the account. Trading will be more difficult, although I think is not a bad idea to be considered.
I think is easier to hold the buyers BTC until is not possible to open a dispute in paypal for that transaction. But it would be annoying to for new buyers. And I think that punishing all the users for just a certain % of scammers is not the way.
Another Idea: We can use the same confirmation method as bitmarket plus a real ID confirmation, like a document, a credit card bill and so on.
Therefor it would be a lot more difficult for scammers to operate.
Obviously, people who uses PAYPAL takes the risk, but for many of them is the ONLY WAY (as me) to cash out the money, or to deposit for buying BTC.
And if I have to go to the postal office every time that I do a transaction would be very annoying.
I prefer to focus on bitcoinmarket security measures.
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You can only use PayPal, if you have some bitcoins in your account, the more bitcoins you have, the more you can buy using PayPal, thus if you do funny stuff with PayPal, you risk losing all your BTC.
Thats nice. But first How do you buy the bitcoins ?. And, where is the benefit there?. If I want to sell all my bitcoins and my only method is PAYPAL I can't... because I must always have some bitcoins in the account. Trading will be more difficult, although I think is not a bad idea to be considered.
I think is easier to hold the buyers BTC until is not possible to open a dispute in paypal for that transaction. But it would be annoying to for new buyers. And I think that punishing all the users for just a certain % of scammers is not the way.
Another Idea: We can use the same confirmation method as bitmarket plus a real ID confirmation, like a document, a credit card bill and so on.
Therefor it would be a lot more difficult for scammers to operate.
Obviously, people who uses PAYPAL takes the risk, but for many of them is the ONLY WAY (as me) to cash out the money, or to deposit for buying BTC.
We all know, PAYPAL is NOT the best choice.
But, think about this. The liberties that PAYPAL gives to scammers are the same liberties that we use. I have NO WAY to receive local currency from bitcoins, and Im wondering what would happen if I use a bank account on my country (hypothetically) to make bitcoin trades?. Probably the state will say "Hey, why are you moving that amounts of money without declaring them?. Soon or later I'll loose those liberties that PAYPAL gives me.
So let me help with some Ideas> We have two sides here>
Trading net> Variable
PAYPAL>NOT variable
So how we can make a risk free trading network?. Obviously we can't modify PAYPAL policies but we can modify ours.
More validation and rating systems must be implemented.
If you are not a "Great user" you cannot make trades for more than U$D100 in 24hs. Your bitcoins will be confirmed after x days, so you can't claim a refund.
What about unconfirmed transactions?. The user who already made the transaction simply can send a pic to the admin with the transaction ID and data. If the data is veracious then the trade will be auto-confirmed.
And, a trust network must be developed, awarding correct users by lowering the fees rates will be a nice idea to, more trustable users, less problems, less work. >)
Update for Ian> Happened to me once, I just sent an email to the user saying that he must not include anything about currency trading in the description. He apologized.
I think is more about informing the people. Even dwdollar was not aware of this. After the event that I've described, I sent an email to him with a recommendation to add an advice in the webpage so people will not commit the same mistake. He answered "I don't know of PayPal hassling end users? Usually they just lock business accounts that have central accounts.".
We are in BETA stage, this mistakes are acceptable, we're all taking the risk in this new flourishing system.
I know that there are a lot of users that are in the same situation that me on this PAYPAL matter.
To dwdollar> Don't think that PAYPAL will do anything for us. We are violating their TOS. They will do all on their power to clean their hands. We have the hands tied...
But, think about this. The liberties that PAYPAL gives to scammers are the same liberties that we use. I have NO WAY to receive local currency from bitcoins, and Im wondering what would happen if I use a bank account on my country (hypothetically) to make bitcoin trades?. Probably the state will say "Hey, why are you moving that amounts of money without declaring them?. Soon or later I'll loose those liberties that PAYPAL gives me.
So let me help with some Ideas> We have two sides here>
Trading net> Variable
PAYPAL>NOT variable
So how we can make a risk free trading network?. Obviously we can't modify PAYPAL policies but we can modify ours.
More validation and rating systems must be implemented.
If you are not a "Great user" you cannot make trades for more than U$D100 in 24hs. Your bitcoins will be confirmed after x days, so you can't claim a refund.
What about unconfirmed transactions?. The user who already made the transaction simply can send a pic to the admin with the transaction ID and data. If the data is veracious then the trade will be auto-confirmed.
And, a trust network must be developed, awarding correct users by lowering the fees rates will be a nice idea to, more trustable users, less problems, less work. >)
Update for Ian> Happened to me once, I just sent an email to the user saying that he must not include anything about currency trading in the description. He apologized.
I think is more about informing the people. Even dwdollar was not aware of this. After the event that I've described, I sent an email to him with a recommendation to add an advice in the webpage so people will not commit the same mistake. He answered "I don't know of PayPal hassling end users? Usually they just lock business accounts that have central accounts.".
We are in BETA stage, this mistakes are acceptable, we're all taking the risk in this new flourishing system.
I know that there are a lot of users that are in the same situation that me on this PAYPAL matter.
To dwdollar> Don't think that PAYPAL will do anything for us. We are violating their TOS. They will do all on their power to clean their hands. We have the hands tied...
Hi.
I've been scammed to by a French guy, lucky me that I had withdraw all my money before the scammer claim it, so I'm in red now haha.
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The only reason that I use PAYPAL is because theres no other way in my country. In most South America countries PAYPAL is used for Ebay buying, and credit cards are not very abundant. People sometime have fear to link their CC to PAYPAL, so they buy credit to a trader. Thats how I get the money in my local currency. I can make that trade because PAYPAL is POPULAR, Ebay is POPULAR, and the demand of PAYPAL credit is hight.
I'm sure that we can think a way to make scamming harder to be accomplish.
I've been scammed to by a French guy, lucky me that I had withdraw all my money before the scammer claim it, so I'm in red now haha.
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Never understood why bitcoin users use paypal when the entire e-currency world of Pecunix/LR/Webmoney/HDmoney/GDP/Cgold/EGold hasn't touched Paypal for trading since the 1990s heyday of scamming.
I use PayPal and got really unhappy with how BCM went (and I expected it, when BCM stopped being invite only... In fact, I invited ever only one person, and I encouraged others to check #otc web of trust to see if a person was to be invited...)
The reason is simply: It is the ONLY option available on my country.
Here there are no dwolla, no LR, no Pecunix, no Webmoney... It is ONLY paypal. (well, we have Western Union too, but they charge 25% O.o)
I use PayPal and got really unhappy with how BCM went (and I expected it, when BCM stopped being invite only... In fact, I invited ever only one person, and I encouraged others to check #otc web of trust to see if a person was to be invited...)
The reason is simply: It is the ONLY option available on my country.
Here there are no dwolla, no LR, no Pecunix, no Webmoney... It is ONLY paypal. (well, we have Western Union too, but they charge 25% O.o)
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The only reason that I use PAYPAL is because theres no other way in my country. In most South America countries PAYPAL is used for Ebay buying, and credit cards are not very abundant. People sometime have fear to link their CC to PAYPAL, so they buy credit to a trader. Thats how I get the money in my local currency. I can make that trade because PAYPAL is POPULAR, Ebay is POPULAR, and the demand of PAYPAL credit is hight.
I'm sure that we can think a way to make scamming harder to be accomplish.
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A while after the trades, the buyer filed a dispute on paypal, and even though I did my best to stop it, the transactions were reversed.
Same here. With user ID 6038
I would like to continue selling with PAYPAL but in a risk free way :S.
Re: we cannot access our bitcoins stored at the bitcoinmarket.com.
Will the BMBTC/PPUSD be available again?. I've sent a e-mail to the admin but I can't get any answer.
bitcoinmarket was the best page for PAYPAL trading :S.
bitcoinmarket was the best page for PAYPAL trading :S.
282 MH/s in both HD 6870.
What clock speeds, client and settings do you use for this? I get slightly less on my 6870s.
WORKSIZE=128 VECTORS AGGRESSION=9 FASTLOOP BFI_INT
6870 @ 970mhz, memory at 500 mhz.
I recommend not crossfiring your cards, and instead using a VGA dummy plug for each.
Hi. I've tried to disable the crossfire but when is it disabled one of the GPU's doesn't work. I know that in Linux is not mandatory to use the crossfire bridge. Im not getting bad performance with crossfire enabled though.
282 MH/s in both HD 6870.
Hi.
How I must set my GPUs?. One per worker? or both in one worker?.
In deepbit I had one worker for both video cards, but in BTCMine that method didn't work, I had to set a 2nd worker for my 2nd GPU. How about BTCGuild ?. I have to set 2 workers, one per GPU?.
How I must set my GPUs?. One per worker? or both in one worker?.
In deepbit I had one worker for both video cards, but in BTCMine that method didn't work, I had to set a 2nd worker for my 2nd GPU. How about BTCGuild ?. I have to set 2 workers, one per GPU?.