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higherhighs
on 06/09/2020, 17:42:38 UTC
SWC just deleted this post twice but I will post it again as it is very concerning! If you delete it again I will post it again.

If you have issues with another player please email support. This is not the place to post personal issues or attacks regarding other players. Posts made solely for this purpose will be deleted.

Isn't ETF staff? They usually have green text and are always promoting tournaments and time left to register.

No. There are no staff members that are currently present in chat. When an official site representative is added they will be clearly marked as an employee and representative of SwC. Messages from any players in chat or made on any other venue are not official and they do not speak for SwC.


"No. As mentioned many times higherhighs is not an SwC employee and is not in a position to decide anything regarding SwC. Their only role is as a player that has volunteered to help send in reports regarding chat rules and to forward suggestions from players. They have no authority that any other player does not possess."


I am not a staff member, nor have I ever claimed to be.

I am not an employee, nor have I ever claimed to be.

I have no authority to make decisions, nor have I claimed to have any.

The green chat does not mean anything other than SwC is supportive of my efforts and validates them on some level.

It does not mean I officially speak for SwC, or that I have access to anything that any other player doesn't, because I do not.  

SwC is very happy with my efforts and that is what matters to me.

Keep up the campaign, or don't, it doesn't matter to me. This will be my last Bitcoin Talk response, my efforts will be to continue to help make SwC a better and healthier place to play in any way that I can.

 Kiss

Higherhighs, along with any other player, is free to send in screenshots of chat that they feel violates the rules posted. The decisions regarding whether this will result in a mute is then made by SwC management.

As we do not currently have a chat moderator present there have been a number of players that have assisted with this, and with relaying player feedback. But as always we invite all players to directly give us that feedback or message if they choose.

If any player has made comments with the intention of representing themselves as a part of the SwC team we would ask you to email support with a screenshot because this is not true and would not be allowed.

You tell people you are a chat moderator all the time...


Come on Bert......finish the sentence.

"As we do not currently have a chat moderator present there have been a number of players that have assisted with this"

SwC doesnt currently have a employee that is a chat Mod, I am a player helping out AKA assisting with chat moderation.

Why don't you post some screen shots of the things you have said to me? Let's get to the meat and potatoes. I have them if you don't.

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higherhighs
on 06/09/2020, 05:11:08 UTC
SWC just deleted this post twice but I will post it again as it is very concerning! If you delete it again I will post it again.

If you have issues with another player please email support. This is not the place to post personal issues or attacks regarding other players. Posts made solely for this purpose will be deleted.

Isn't ETF staff? They usually have green text and are always promoting tournaments and time left to register.

No. There are no staff members that are currently present in chat. When an official site representative is added they will be clearly marked as an employee and representative of SwC. Messages from any players in chat or made on any other venue are not official and they do not speak for SwC.


"No. As mentioned many times higherhighs is not an SwC employee and is not in a position to decide anything regarding SwC. Their only role is as a player that has volunteered to help send in reports regarding chat rules and to forward suggestions from players. They have no authority that any other player does not possess."


I am not a staff member, nor have I ever claimed to be.

I am not an employee, nor have I ever claimed to be.

I have no authority to make decisions, nor have I claimed to have any.

The green chat does not mean anything other than SwC is supportive of my efforts and validates them on some level.

It does not mean I officially speak for SwC, or that I have access to anything that any other player doesn't, because I do not. 

SwC is very happy with my efforts and that is what matters to me.

Keep up the campaign, or don't, it doesn't matter to me. This will be my last Bitcoin Talk response, my efforts will be to continue to help make SwC a better and healthier place to play in any way that I can.

 Kiss
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higherhighs
on 06/09/2020, 03:39:44 UTC
The evidence is plenty in the way they are misrepresenting facts to state nonsensical statements in an effort to create a false narrative regarding me and SwC.

Ive 'arranged' for people to be chat banned from a discord channel, just another lie in some attempt to discredit me.

Here is an example of you asking for someone to be banned on SWC because of their interaction with you on Discord. Should I post more?

https://i.imgur.com/Ov7C7NU.png

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I am soooooooo sorry that it is no longer fun for you guys to play poker at SwC because you cant be abusive and use racial and homophobic slurs at will, like it was just a few months a go.

Does SWC condone your sarcasm and vitriol? Seems really unprofessional to me, but hey, it's their site to burn to the ground if they want. I take exception to you claiming that I use racial and homophobic slurs. Please back that up with a screenshot or apologize.

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That is what has changed......you want to take all of your anger out on me, that is perfect, that is why I volunteered to be a part of the change that is happening.

A business doesn't want you to chat on their site/property, that is it. It doesn't matter if you don't agree or don't like the new rules, or that you don't like how they decide who to mute and when. Making me disappear changes nothing. Everyone is still accountable for their own actions and every business makes their own rules.

The focus remains on me, because abusers need someone to abuse, and I am tangible. I am something that can be targeted.

Just think about all of these attacks and accusations........regarding chat.........and not poker.......on a poker site.

I am so proud of SwC and the progress they have made in a few months.

You have gotten way off track here in your haste to paint every SWC player with the same brush. Please stop trying to make every argument about you being victimized by these supposed "racist abusers" on SWC for just a minute. Let's go back to my original questions.

1. How would having a specific username on Bitcointalk prove that the same person owned the account by the same name on SWC?

2. Isn't it reasonable to assume that you would retaliate against players who post here under their real names, as you have done on Discord (see above screenshot)?

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The irony is not lost on me that the abusers are the ones that now feel like they are being abused......even if the reality is they are just being held accountable for their actions.

Really? Where did I say that I felt abused? When have I ever received a chat ban?

I look forward to your professional and on-topic response to my questions. 





What is that proof of? That I withdrew my support for BertBert?  Where did I ask for someone to be banned?  How am I supposed to answer your lies?

Obviously there is no need to go back and forth with you and BertBert, I have nothing to prove and no one to answer to except SwC regarding my actions.

So, once again, a long-winded post about chat and nothing about poker.....while attacking me......where have I seen this before?

If you don't enjoy SwC anymore, that is sad, because the only thing that is changed is the chat culture and abuse.  The poker is still the same. Even a little more enjoyable for good people.

I wish you guys the best in finding a new home that accepts you for who you are....you know the type of person that talks about businesses burning to the ground.
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higherhighs
on 06/09/2020, 01:18:35 UTC
So I will ask one more time, what are you hiding from? Why create a new name to talk here? Be transparent.  But you and I know the truth, you didn't 'rub me the wrong way', you were abusive towards me, for a prolonged period of time, and chose to become abusive on social media anonymously once you lost your chat privileges at SwC.

What would it prove to make a username on an anonymous BTC forum that matched an anonymous username on an anonymous poker site? Anyone could reg up a bunch of accounts with SWC usernames.

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You want to interpret things the way you want them to sound, so you can maintain your abusive tone all while continuing to remain anonymous.

Did it occur to you that this person who you have already decided is a "brutally abusive chatter/player" (based on zero evidence) may be using a pseudonym to avoid retaliation from you on SWC? You have already arranged to have people chat banned on SWC for comments made in an unofficial, unaffiliated Discord chat room. Isn't it reasonable to think you would do the same here given the chance?

The evidence is plenty in the way they are misrepresenting facts to state nonsensical statements in an effort to create a false narrative regarding me and SwC.

Ive 'arranged' for people to be chat banned from a discord channel, just another lie in some attempt to discredit me.

I am soooooooo sorry that it is no longer fun for you guys to play poker at SwC because you cant be abusive and use racial and homophobic slurs at will, like it was just a few months a go.

That is what has changed......you want to take all of your anger out on me, that is perfect, that is why I volunteered to be a part of the change that is happening.

A business doesn't want you to chat on their site/property, that is it. It doesn't matter if you don't agree or don't like the new rules, or that you don't like how they decide who to mute and when. Making me disappear changes nothing. Everyone is still accountable for their own actions and every business makes their own rules.

The focus remains on me, because abusers need someone to abuse, and I am tangible. I am something that can be targeted.

Just think about all of these attacks and accusations........regarding chat.........and not poker.......on a poker site.

I am so proud of SwC and the progress they have made in a few months.

The irony is not lost on me that the abusers are the ones that now feel like they are being abused......even if the reality is they are just being held accountable for their actions.
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higherhighs
on 05/09/2020, 23:31:41 UTC

But, what about HigherHighs? They do not speak for SWC?

 Also, at one point ETF had the same green text as HH.

No. We have attempted to make this as clear as possible. Higherhighs, nor any other player, represents or speaks for SwC. If they have given you that impression it was either a misinterpretation or a misrepresentation on their part. The only official messages from SwC will come from clearly identified SwC accounts.

There are a few players that have green chat text but it is not an indication of any official position or authority. There are also other players that chose a custom chat color when that option was available for a limited time. If they have not changed their color since that time it will remain. For this reason chat colors alone are not used as a method to signify anything. Official accounts will be clearly identified as such; for example, SwC_Support is an official account used by support in chat.

That just isn't true though. I rubbed HH wrong and they said they were going to ban me, then I was banned from chat. If that is true, then why do you continually let HH act like they represent you in the chat. It has gotten to the point where people have issues and are asking if HH is there and talking to them about it. You could go in the chat right now and ask if anyone thinks HH is part of the SWC team and you will get a large I'm out of responses of people saying yes.

If HH is fraudulently representing themselves in the chat why wouldn't you ban them so they wouldn't continue to do so?


"HH is part of the SWC team" that type of statement can be interpreted many different ways. By definition a team is:
verb
1.
come together as a team to achieve a common goal.
"he teamed up with the band to produce the album"
Similar:
join (up)
join forces
collaborate
get together
come together

So just in the example given by the definition, a person teams up with a band to create an album.......but that doesn't make the person part of the band.

As I have said since the beginning of this, I volunteered to SwC to help them enforce their new rules they put in place months before I started helping out with anything, rules that were ignored and fought back against by some players.  They did give me green chat to show their support for the perspective I was bringing to the chat box, and show their support for me.

I am unpaid. I am not given any other compensation or benefits or incentives. I have no access to anything, and no authority on anything. I am just anti-abuse and was happy to help make a difference any way I can in what I perceived as the biggest problem holding SwC back from growth.

I also notice that those who are disgruntled here, decide to share their stories with newbie accounts and without mentioning their screennames, so that their abusive actions for getting muted can remain a mystery to those reading.  While seeking to attempt to push SwC back to a place where there is no accountability for actions.

I am proud of SwC for making the drastic steps and changes necessary to evolve the past toxic chat culture of years into a completely new and much more positive environment in a relatively short amount of time. I am proud of them for standing up to bullies and abusers.  I think the decisions they are making are going to promote long term growth, and that any short term blowback is primariily coming from a very small number of brutally abusive players/chatters.  And it would not surprise me if 1 person is behind multiple accounts on this thread.

I don't expect to be volunteering my efforts for that much longer, and look forward to just playing poker again, but until then, I am happy to 'team up' with SwC to promote a healthier chat culture and offer my help in any way I can.



Per SWC in this chat, you are fraudulently portraying yourself in the chat box. You acted like you were a chosen volunteer to handle these duties. There is a difference of just taking things upon yourself and "volunteering" by reporting people to SWC support. This hands down shows that you are a liar. This also shows that you just want to troll people in the chat to try and report them. You are acting like you have a connection with SWC management in the chat but they say there is no relationship with you. Stop lying and pretending to be someone special in the chat box. This site would be better without you doing that. You've created so much trauma by lying and acting like SWC picked you to help out.


You want to interpret things the way you want them to sound, so you can maintain your abusive tone all while continuing to remain anonymous.

I do have a relationship with SwC. They support me and my actions in chat, as they have written in some emails that went out to a large number of players as well as by offering me green chat to show that support. In that regard, they have 'chosen' me.

They have followed everything very closely the past few months and remain supportive of all of my efforts.

I don't make any decisions about players being muted(or anything else), but I have built up trust with SwC and they appreciate and respect my perspective. That is why I have green chat. That is why SwC tends to quickly agree with my assessment of a situation. That is why the abusive chat culture that you were a part of has evaporated over night.

But best of all, that is why new and old players are emerging out of the shadows and becoming part of the SwC community and finally feeling they are safe from the constant and abhorrent abuse that had become the norm at SwC.


So I will ask one more time, what are you hiding from? Why create a new name to talk here? Be transparent.  But you and I know the truth, you didn't 'rub me the wrong way', you were abusive towards me, for a prolonged period of time, and chose to become abusive on social media anonymously once you lost your chat privileges at SwC.

You want to make this all about me, but the reality is, the changes SwC is making, is really all about/or because of you and the types of players/chatters that embraced the abuse on the site as a badge of honor.

I expect you to continue finding different angles to shoot and continue to attack, because that is who you are.



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higherhighs
on 05/09/2020, 21:47:16 UTC

But, what about HigherHighs? They do not speak for SWC?

 Also, at one point ETF had the same green text as HH.

No. We have attempted to make this as clear as possible. Higherhighs, nor any other player, represents or speaks for SwC. If they have given you that impression it was either a misinterpretation or a misrepresentation on their part. The only official messages from SwC will come from clearly identified SwC accounts.

There are a few players that have green chat text but it is not an indication of any official position or authority. There are also other players that chose a custom chat color when that option was available for a limited time. If they have not changed their color since that time it will remain. For this reason chat colors alone are not used as a method to signify anything. Official accounts will be clearly identified as such; for example, SwC_Support is an official account used by support in chat.

That just isn't true though. I rubbed HH wrong and they said they were going to ban me, then I was banned from chat. If that is true, then why do you continually let HH act like they represent you in the chat. It has gotten to the point where people have issues and are asking if HH is there and talking to them about it. You could go in the chat right now and ask if anyone thinks HH is part of the SWC team and you will get a large I'm out of responses of people saying yes.

If HH is fraudulently representing themselves in the chat why wouldn't you ban them so they wouldn't continue to do so?


"HH is part of the SWC team" that type of statement can be interpreted many different ways. By definition a team is:
verb
1.
come together as a team to achieve a common goal.
"he teamed up with the band to produce the album"
Similar:
join (up)
join forces
collaborate
get together
come together

So just in the example given by the definition, a person teams up with a band to create an album.......but that doesn't make the person part of the band.

As I have said since the beginning of this, I volunteered to SwC to help them enforce their new rules they put in place months before I started helping out with anything, rules that were ignored and fought back against by some players.  They did give me green chat to show their support for the perspective I was bringing to the chat box, and show their support for me.

I am unpaid. I am not given any other compensation or benefits or incentives. I have no access to anything, and no authority on anything. I am just anti-abuse and was happy to help make a difference any way I can in what I perceived as the biggest problem holding SwC back from growth.

I also notice that those who are disgruntled here, decide to share their stories with newbie accounts and without mentioning their screennames, so that their abusive actions for getting muted can remain a mystery to those reading.  While seeking to attempt to push SwC back to a place where there is no accountability for actions.

I am proud of SwC for making the drastic steps and changes necessary to evolve the past toxic chat culture of years into a completely new and much more positive environment in a relatively short amount of time. I am proud of them for standing up to bullies and abusers.  I think the decisions they are making are going to promote long term growth, and that any short term blowback is primariily coming from a very small number of brutally abusive players/chatters.  And it would not surprise me if 1 person is behind multiple accounts on this thread.

I don't expect to be volunteering my efforts for that much longer, and look forward to just playing poker again, but until then, I am happy to 'team up' with SwC to promote a healthier chat culture and offer my help in any way I can.

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higherhighs
on 23/08/2020, 21:54:02 UTC
https://i.imgur.com/thLnOi5.png

I mean, we all knew that the "Online" number in the top right is bogus, but this pretty much confirms it. Unless you believe that out of the 208 people online, 167 play an exclusive freeroll.

(Even the numbers don't match since more than 40 other people sat cashgame tables at that time.)

I guess the "500 player online" promise from hh is achievable when you just fudge the numbers.

You love to throw mud to see if something sticks?  Im not even sure what you are trying to say here....that players in cash games cant also be playing in a freeroll?  And I said 500 players by year's end is my guess. 

Some people have conspiracy theory brains.....I guess you are one of them.

Anyway, just wanted to stop by and show all the people on here how much of liar you are to accuse me of cheating, and then to sit down to play with me just now.  Because that makes sense.

https://i.imgur.com/X1pZZBl.jpg

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on 22/08/2020, 10:16:21 UTC
Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.

Seems like you have a personal vendetta but I'll bite in case I'm wrong.  How is he all but confirmed cheating?  Solver? collusion?


Yes, he is live solving.


I wonder if SWC could answer these three questions to alleviate some concerns about security of funds and integrity of the site:

1) Has ownership of SWC recently changed?
2) Do you not consider it a conflict of interest that higherhighs is playing against players he is actively involved in muting/banning?
3) Do you consider the PR you have gotten recently better than before and do you anticipate it changing in the future?

Thanks in advance.

Let's clear some things up.

First, SkyReVo AKA Ugot0chance on SwC has played a good number of hours of chinese poker against me. And I first learned that solvers existed for chinese poker because he started accusing a different player we were playing against of cheating. Apparently, if he wins, he is the greatest, and if he loses, it could only be because someone cheated him.

I have never cheated one hand of poker in my career, and I have never used a solver while playing or for practice. Because of this, I am confident there is no proof of me 'cheating', because I never have.  

What uGot0Chance/SkyReVo forgot to mention is that I offered him $2,000, no strings attached, to provide any proof that I have cheated or used a solver in any capacity. This was my response to him calling me a cheater after our last session. That offer is still open and available to anyone.

I also offered him to escrow $2,000 and I would do the same, and I would livestream play him, to prove that my mind is the only thing I need to beat him. He also declined this invitation.


Now lets talk about chat. I have volunteered to help SwC clean up their chat/culture because their new rules were not being adhered to by many players/chatters who have evolved with SwC over the years.  The chat at SwC, had been very toxic, as there were literally no rules for chatting for 8 years.  This involved many players/chatters logging in every day to SwC to abuse other players with often time racist and homophobic remarks and a lot of abuse. This culture, may have formed a tight nit bond with a few players, but pushed a lot of new players away over the years and made it so it was tough for people to rec the site to their friends, knowing they would be exposed to extreme abuse.

Having been playing on and off on the site since very first month in existence, I had seen the evolution of the site and culture, and had always felt that this aspect of the site needed to change to be able to grow.  So when I saw an opportunity to help for a short amount of time to evolve the culture in a positive direction, I offered to help. I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir.

Many players are thrilled with the new direction of SwC, but there are definitely a handful of players, that have deemed it more important to be able to drop racist and homophobic slurs at will then to respect the request and chat rules that SwC has put forth. These players seem to be the most vocal on social media and are distorting the truth in some type of effort to get me 'fired'. I put 'fired' in quotes because I am not paid or compensated at all.

uGot0Chance/SkyReVo lost his chat permanently for advertising another poker site and enticing SwC players to play there.....he made over a dozen of these posts on July 13th, and was permanently muted because of it.  Though poaching players for another site was more then enough to perm mute him, he also chose to be disturbingly abusive towards me, graphically giving me in-depth directions in the lobby chat on how to slit my wrists correctly.


Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become. I am really proud to be part of the reason why hate speech and abusive behavoir are no longer tolerated on SwC, and although some of the abusers have now found an outlet thru social media, I am looking forward to SwC continuing to strive to be a poker destination for all players.

Thank you for your time,

higherhighs


Whew... lots of smoke screens here, very impressive. I'll keep it short:

Yes, I have played higherhighs for a while and we have since confirmed that during that period, he has used live assistance against me and atleast two other (ex-)regulars. This was confirmed by a developer of one of these solvers (think PIO solver, just for Chinese) with confidence. If you follow this thread, you know why I'm not confident sharing exactly how we know with him or SWC. But it's unequivocally the case. We haven't played much recently, therefore I do not know if he still does is since he is affiliated with SWC.

For any (potential) OFCp player, I just issue this warning: There is a reason none of the regs ever plays higherhighs anymore and if you're really interested, DM me and I'll share info on discord.

There is no upside to me taking his "offer". It's another fairly obvious smoke screen, don't think I have to explain.


As for the chat issue, I couldn't care less. Yes, I do verbally abuse cheaters. Consider yourself lucky that that's all that happens nowadays, back in the day, cheaters were buried alive in the desert. Ah, how times change. Just for clarification though, I am not an agent/affiliate for any site and didn't poach anyone, just told people that there are much better options and referred them to other agents. Again, don't care about the chat ban. But I will always warn about cheaters.


Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because it seemed sketchy, I hope you consider my words of caution that SWC has extremely bad judgement in who they deal with (and I suspect ownership has recently changed aswell), and therefore the risk of playing here has, imo, increased quite a bit.

In the end, you decide who to trust.

Thank you for your time,

uGot


No matter how many times you say a lie, will not make it true.

Just to put this child to bed, I will up my offer to $10,000 to provide proof that I have cheated in one hand, or have ever used a solver while playing or even for practice. Also, I play so fast, much faster than UGot, and will livestream some sessions so that everyone can see my brain in action. I also have played as high as $75 a point in live casinos, and I consider myself an expert at chinese poker (especially 2-7).

Oh, and just to show everyone how Ugot is is just talking out of his butt, notice his 1st post (below) about this stated I was 'all but confirmed cheating at theri OFCp tables' and that has now progressed to 'we have since confirmed that during that period, he has used live assistance against me and atleast two other (ex-)regulars.'


$10,000, show the World that proof, or I will accept your following excuse in your next post as a public apology.

Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.

I haven't cashed out everything, sometimes there are some mega fish you can take advantage of, but my action there went from 80% to like 10%. Kinda sad, I liked earning BTC directly. But oh well..
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on 21/08/2020, 20:44:07 UTC
Since you keep trying to steer around it, what I am trying to say is that you made SwC out to be some racist hellhole. You even likened it to a "KKK rally' a few posts ago. It was not and very few people that were banned were actually banned for using the N word or any sort of racist language. The other 90% of people were banned for random made up reasons that are not listed in the rules.

I don't have any problem following rules, especially the no racial slurs one as that really has no place anywhere. What I have a problem with is not knowing what the actual rules are because the official ones are few and listed on the website but the ones being enforced are many and exist solely in your head so therefore are impossible to follow and none of them pertain to fixing racism.

Steering around what? Your made up #s?

Have you even read the updated rules?  https://swcpoker.eu/house-rules#chat-rules


Chat Rules‍
Chat is a privilege that can be revoked by management at will.‍ Verbally abusing players will not be tolerated.
Chat is uncensored, and is not necessarily in English.‍
Players are provided with an Ignore option to hide the chat of any player they do not wish to see.‍

a) Coarse language is permitted, but racial/sexual slurs and hate speech are prohibited.
b) Discussing a hand in progress, revealing your hole cards prematurely, or otherwise affecting gameplay is prohibited.‍
c) Spamming or flooding the chat is prohibited.‍
d) Illegal, malicious, and sexually explicit hyperlinks or chat is prohibited.‍
e) Referral codes, referral hyperlinks, and advertisements for external promotions or sites are prohibited.
f) Begging for chips at the table or in the lobby chat box is prohibited.‍

In addition to the rules listed above, a common sense policy should be used to determine what is considered inappropriate chat. Cases will be dealt with by management on an individual basis.

Players found to be using inappropriate chat will be given a warning, and will have their chat removed for one week.

A second violation will result in the removal of chat for one month.

Gross and/or repeated violations of prohibited behavior will result in a permanent loss of chat.

Do not use multiple accounts to evade a loss of chat, or to chat to a user who has ignored you. This may result in escalated consequences at the discretion of SwC management.‍

In general, 1st infraction = 1 week chat loss, 2nd infraction = 1 month chat loss, 3rd infraction = permanent chat loss.

Doxxing another player will result in permanent loss of chat.
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higherhighs
on 21/08/2020, 17:53:46 UTC
I don't think anyone is upset about not being able to use the N word. People are upset because 90%+ of the bans are for reasons not listed in the rules or that fall under the ambiguous "chat is a privilege that can be taken away for any reason at any time" (paraphrasing here but its the "rule" that you like to post over and over again in chat when people ask why someone was banned.)


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In almost all situations players are given multiple warnings in an effort to get them to change their behavior so they would not be muted. This can be verified by the many players in chat that never have an issue with me or the rules every single day.

Also, I have been thanked by dozens of players for helping create a better atmosphere.

There are barely any mutes given any more, because the few people that wanted to cause non-stop problems are now permanently muted, after having multiple chances to digest the new rules.

I have no problem with any of the regs, and want everyone to be able to play and be happy. Accept that there are new rules, and respect them and you will never have an issue with losing chat privileges.

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higherhighs
on 21/08/2020, 15:51:15 UTC
I do understand why you may feel a little confused how one of the signees could send me the email, especially since multiple signees never saw the email or knew their names were signed to it before it was sent.......but someone did send me a copy of the email, and it was not SwC.

Thanks, but I'll wait on verification from whoever is running the official SWC account these days about who is privy to what information. You seem to know a suspicious amount about the inner workings of SWC for a nobody who just sends screenshots to support. Either that, or you're being dishonest about what you do know.

Where can I sign up as a regular seal to learn things like which SWC security flaws resulted in a multiaccounter going undetected until he brought it to the site's attention personally?

https://i.imgur.com/LS9xZCW.png

I've been around SWC for a minute and I don't ever recall a regular player knowing the outcomes of security audits and that in a certain case, the security team was able to track these three specific accounts back to this specific player who was multiaccounting. I hear that when other people report cheaters to SWC, support won't even confirm or deny that they took action against the player.

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The terrorists I was referring to were were several players who I had seen a screenshot of discussing how they were planning on undermining the new rules and their strategy to maximize passive aggressiveness and try to not cross the line, in an effort to 'break me'.  Ill give you the names privately but dont care to stir things up publicly, but were signees.

So what you're saying is that some keyboard warriors got you so worked up and paranoid that you thought an earnest letter written in good faith by long-time players (that was not addressed to you, and none of your business) was some sort of diabolical plot? Maybe you should consider changing careers.

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There is no hit list, everyone who has been muted, has been trying to push the boundaries, or refused to fold an honor SwC's requests.

Pretty meaningless when just typing "YAWN" is "pushing the boundaries" and a bannable offense. Did you ever decide whether beans would catch another ban if he says "wankers" again? Was that so spicy that it is driving away the 500 new players you are guaranteeing by the end of the year? Or, in retrospect, was that a total overreaction because you were upset and making things personal again?


For people following along and is getting lost in all this amateur 'gotcha' investigative reporting is that SwC put me in a volunteer position of chat mod (although I do also help to get players' ideas and requests passed along to SwC) because the chat culture had become the equivalent of walking into a KKK rally.

So much racist and homophobic language was being used and thrown around in the most vulgar and abusive ways that SwC decided to make some changes to the culture, which for 8 years, literally had no chat rules or oversight.

Ultimately that meant that the most abusive chatters(not even all of them were players) gathered there, as the lobby chat became a place where people who liked to abuse or use hate speech came to target players and newcomers.

It became some sort of fraternity, in where, if you got thru the abuse, you became a member.  And felt more connected to the others who also did.

To put things even further into perspective, these are the rules that were added, and have caused an uproar in a small number of 'regs'.


1. No hate speech, including racial and homophobic slurs. No sexually explicit speech.

2. No player abuse.



That is what is causing the uproar. Players who could not adapt to not using the 'N' word or be verbally abusive to other players, were muted, but still able to play on the site.  1st infraction is 1 week, 2nd 1 month and the 3rd is permanent.

Very commonsense requests that you would expect when you went to ANY place of business to have to follow, however, these are the rules that a select few have had a problem with being able to follow, or are so jarring to the previous culture that they are now energized to be aggressive towards me and SwC.

Let this be a public announcement that SwC has changed, that hate and racism and abuse are no longer tolerated, and that the abusers are now the ones that are not welcome. If you ever checked out SwC before, you understand what I am saying, and I ask you to come and check it out again.  It is truly beautiful what has happened there in a short time, as players are now interacting and communicating with each other in positive and more impactful ways.
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higherhighs
on 21/08/2020, 04:54:05 UTC
I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir.

Actually, it was YOU who said that SWC shows you emails. Do you remember that time when 25 players signed an email sent to support@swcpoker.eu expressing concerns with the rule changes? You then confronted one of the signers in the trollbox and told him:

https://i.imgur.com/i3MFN70.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2xsfCI0.jpg

https://imgur.com/a/EqoJGm0

I have included the text of the original letter below to show that calling the signers "terrorists" is both pejorative and a gross exaggeration.

I have redacted the names of the signers lest they be subjected to additional punishment for respectfully submitting their opinions to support. Somehow, you managed to get a copy of that email as well, even though to my knowledge, it was never mailed to you and only sent directly to support@swcpoker.eu.

What about this email struck you as a terroristic threat? Why would support break the trust of these players and show you an email not addressed to you? Why did you think it was appropriate to use that information to openly mock the signers in the trollbox and make a hit list of "terrorists" that need to be banned from the site?

I personally don't trust emailing support any longer because I have no idea who they are sharing my emails with at this point. I would have never expected they would share confidential emails with another player for use as ammunition.

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Dear SWC,

    Somewhere along the way, through years of playing and chatting together, and several different software iterations, the players at your site have become a community. As such, we'd like to address the way in which the recent changes have been made, which have been met with almost universal disapproval (and not merely from players who have been chat banned). We understand the desire to make SWC a more desirable place to play and would gladly welcome an influx of new players. However, we also want to retain what made SWC unique amongst all other poker sites and what made it feel like home to many: the ability to speak your mind, to respectfully (or not so respectfully) disagree with someone, or just chat about nothing at all really-because that's what you do with your friends. We're not upset that a small handful of words are banned; we're not upset that referral links aren't allowed, we're not upset that you are enforcing these rules. What's frustrating to us is the manner in which the rules are being enforced and the feeling that SWC is turning their back on some of their most loyal supporters. With that in mind, here are some suggestions from the community that would help improve the situation:

- A clear list we can refer to about what exactly is banned
-Electing a group of mods chosen by the community (with SWC input) who can enforce these rules with common sense and without bias
-Either remove or significantly reduce any Krill requirements to chat
-Give warnings instead of banning for first time offenders
-Shorten the ban time and remove infractions for those banned recently for minor transgressions

    It's a testament to the site that a player like beans could be chat banned and still help make sure players have chips to play here, or that a someone like Malkavian would still stream and promote SWC despite being too new to actually chat under the current requirements. Please don't squander this goodwill.

Where did I say SwC shows me emails or gives me access to them?

I do understand why you may feel a little confused how one of the signees could send me the email, especially since multiple signees never saw the email or knew their names were signed to it before it was sent.......but someone did send me a copy of the email, and it was not SwC.

The terrorists I was referring to were were several players who I had seen a screenshot of discussing how they were planning on undermining the new rules and their strategy to maximize passive aggressiveness and try to not cross the line, in an effort to 'break me'.  Ill give you the names privately but dont care to stir things up publicly, but were signees.

There is no hit list, everyone who has been muted, has been trying to push the boundaries, or refused to fold an honor SwC's requests.

These same players told me there was nothing I could do because 'the inmates run the prison', and tried to organize rake strikes, or tried to manipulate me into acting in a way that they wanted by targeting someone. 

Many of the players who signed that email, have been working with me to improve the tournament schedule, or offer other ideas to improve the site's functionality or promotions.  And several of the suggestions in that email have, in fact, been incorporated.

Those that want to continue focusing on bringing me down to undermine the changes SwC is moving forward with, are missing out on true opportunities to improve the site, because real change is happening and the site is getting stronger.
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higherhighs
on 21/08/2020, 03:19:10 UTC

EDIT: HH once again got automatically registered in an overlay tournament in the exact very last second, that cant be a coincidence.
I told you this is his payment although he lies that there is non.

Assuming you are aab, and did the same thing as me, joined the last second because there was going to be an overlay. I am not paid or compensated in any way, as I already stated. I also will not be doing this modding permanently.  I am happily helping the site, and proud of the changes that are being made with the culture at SwC.

higherhighs
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by
higherhighs
on 21/08/2020, 02:48:12 UTC
LOL what a response by hh.
Still it doesnt change the fact that you join table, block the seats just to threat people you will mute them for "lecturing other people" . As long as its not racist people can say what they want,  its called freedom of speech. If this site is not able to block certain words like for example pokerstars does its their own fault.

Trash talk is a part of the game and you think you stand over other players and want to take this away from them. If players are bad and somebody tells him that they are he is free to do so, thats not up to you.

About the cheating I cant say anything, I can only rely to what other people say but I think HH actions and "power" go to far for just another player.

I joined a table with no waiting list and 2 seats open for 2 minutes to issue a player a verbal warning for abusing other players. I was unable to chat as an observer. That is a pretty rare occurrence, as most chat related issues happen in the lobby chat.

A little trash talk is fine, but abusive chat is not.
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higherhighs
on 21/08/2020, 01:52:57 UTC
Higherhighs is definitely a weird hire, given that he is all but confirmed cheating at their OFCp tables. I wonder if the SWC team thinks he helped or hindered the site.

Seems like you have a personal vendetta but I'll bite in case I'm wrong.  How is he all but confirmed cheating?  Solver? collusion?


Yes, he is live solving.


I wonder if SWC could answer these three questions to alleviate some concerns about security of funds and integrity of the site:

1) Has ownership of SWC recently changed?
2) Do you not consider it a conflict of interest that higherhighs is playing against players he is actively involved in muting/banning?
3) Do you consider the PR you have gotten recently better than before and do you anticipate it changing in the future?

Thanks in advance.

Let's clear some things up.

First, SkyReVo AKA Ugot0chance on SwC has played a good number of hours of chinese poker against me. And I first learned that solvers existed for chinese poker because he started accusing a different player we were playing against of cheating. Apparently, if he wins, he is the greatest, and if he loses, it could only be because someone cheated him.

I have never cheated one hand of poker in my career, and I have never used a solver while playing or for practice. Because of this, I am confident there is no proof of me 'cheating', because I never have. 

What uGot0Chance/SkyReVo forgot to mention is that I offered him $2,000, no strings attached, to provide any proof that I have cheated or used a solver in any capacity. This was my response to him calling me a cheater after our last session. That offer is still open and available to anyone.

I also offered him to escrow $2,000 and I would do the same, and I would livestream play him, to prove that my mind is the only thing I need to beat him. He also declined this invitation.


Now lets talk about chat. I have volunteered to help SwC clean up their chat/culture because their new rules were not being adhered to by many players/chatters who have evolved with SwC over the years.  The chat at SwC, had been very toxic, as there were literally no rules for chatting for 8 years.  This involved many players/chatters logging in every day to SwC to abuse other players with often time racist and homophobic remarks and a lot of abuse. This culture, may have formed a tight nit bond with a few players, but pushed a lot of new players away over the years and made it so it was tough for people to rec the site to their friends, knowing they would be exposed to extreme abuse.

Having been playing on and off on the site since very first month in existence, I had seen the evolution of the site and culture, and had always felt that this aspect of the site needed to change to be able to grow.  So when I saw an opportunity to help for a short amount of time to evolve the culture in a positive direction, I offered to help. I saw someone say that SwC shows me emails, that is not true, I discuss with them why players were muted when the player emails in, and the screnshot I saw, was from a discord where players who are on board with the changes, send me screenshots of abusive/racist behavoir.

Many players are thrilled with the new direction of SwC, but there are definitely a handful of players, that have deemed it more important to be able to drop racist and homophobic slurs at will then to respect the request and chat rules that SwC has put forth. These players seem to be the most vocal on social media and are distorting the truth in some type of effort to get me 'fired'. I put 'fired' in quotes because I am not paid or compensated at all.

uGot0Chance/SkyReVo lost his chat permanently for advertising another poker site and enticing SwC players to play there.....he made over a dozen of these posts on July 13th, and was permanently muted because of it.  Though poaching players for another site was more then enough to perm mute him, he also chose to be disturbingly abusive towards me, graphically giving me in-depth directions in the lobby chat on how to slit my wrists correctly.


Lastly, if you ever stopped playing on SwC because of the culture, I hope you stop by and check out just how different it has become. I am really proud to be part of the reason why hate speech and abusive behavoir are no longer tolerated on SwC, and although some of the abusers have now found an outlet thru social media, I am looking forward to SwC continuing to strive to be a poker destination for all players.

Thank you for your time,

higherhighs