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Re: Lottery Solo Pool Miner Race on ckpool
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kano
on 24/02/2025, 20:42:10 UTC
Alas, as I keep reminding you, that calculation is actually wrong.

So while you are saying 1.7% is good, and higher is better, it is actually quite a bit higher than that.

ckpool software does not store or display the information required to calculate that correctly, so his reported blocks usually claim much better luck than it is.
(not sure why anyone would be happy about that ... but anyway)

As I've explained a number of times, the problem is that shares/diff must be added up per difficulty change,
b ut using a total shares / current diff is far from correct.

To make it clear in a valid example, if you did 1% diff for 2 weeks and difficulty was 100T,
but later include that in a 110T, suddenly that 1% diff has dropped to 100/110 = 0.91% diff
The % amount of work done hasn't changed, but the calculation has ignored that.

To give an example that may explain it better, but not very realistic,
Image diff is 100T and you do 50T work during that 2 weeks, you have now done 50% of a block work.
Then say next diff, it jumps up to 125T, so at the start of that 125T diff, suddenly the amount of work you have done drops,
if you calculate it incorrectly using 50/125 = 40% work
But you haven't done any less work %, just the calculation is wrong.
The work % value of a share, is based on the difficulty when the share was submitted, not much later when difficulty has changed.

When finding a block lasts for a few weeks or months, that % difference, when calculated incorrectly, becomes very noticeable and makes the pool look like it is luckier than it is.
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Re: Eligius pool is back under the new name Ocean
by
kano
on 24/02/2025, 20:20:21 UTC
⭐ Merited by mikeywith (4) ,NotFuzzyWarm (2) ,vapourminer (1)
It is VERY easy to calculate your expected reward on any PPS/FPPS pool if you simply look at your accepted shares on your miner.
I very much doubt any of the big pools would get away with claiming PPS or FPPS and not paying it, since it is so damn simple to check.

Running a rental from fuckhash is probably the worst way to test a pool, since you have no access to the miners at all, and no access to statistics, just a randomly allocated hash rate that may well be nothing like they say it is and nothing like you paid for.
We run a 'solo' fun run in my pool using fuckhash, and looking at the expected result vs the actual result, it's quite obvious they like rounding things down.

ALL pools work off share difficulty - hash rate is simply a calculation from that.
Alas when fuckhash only show you hash rate, it's really hard to tell what's actually going on and how much you lost vs what you should have got.

I do hope your pool also supplies valid statistics and isn't hiding behind unreliable calculations.

Aside: miners also do the same thing to show hash rate, it's also a calculations based on nonce difficulty found by the chips over time. (and it's also not a count of hashes)
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Re: Eligius pool is back under the new name Ocean
by
kano
on 18/02/2025, 03:55:38 UTC
If the economic incentive to mine in this pool is that bad,
Because it's not, that's just a lie. Our miners have observed 10-15% more earnings than on the competing pools.
lol - did someone hack your account?

That statement is clearly false.
No, you are a liar.
Heh - unless you blew all that 20-30k BTC you had, clearly having $1bil hasn't changed you for the better Cheesy

Simple fact, there's not 10-15% more BTC per block, than most pools pay.
So unless someone mining on your pool is giving away a very large amount of BTC constantly, to everyone else mining, it's not possible to pay 10-15% more than other pools.
Simple math and logic, alas I know such concepts usually elude you Cheesy
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Re: Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB
by
kano
on 02/02/2025, 23:23:28 UTC
Wow, this brings back old memories. What happened to my "shelved shares" I wonder :-)
They were shelved - lol
... and wiz took a nice large txn to himself when everything closed down.
Will be fun to see this happen on ocean as well Smiley
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 01/02/2025, 03:31:23 UTC
got it new account it is
thanks

hello everyone, long time no see, since 2019 to be exact
question....is there any way to recover or reset the 2FA code? i cannot login
any advise?
If you saved the '2FA Secret Key' when you setup 2FA (as it tells you to do) then you can manually use that to setup 2FA on a device.
If you supplied a '2FA recovery phrase' when you setup 2FA, then the password reset will allow you to use that phrase to remove 2FA.
If not, then no, there's no other way to access a 2FA account without 2FA.
Yes it is secure, no it will not allow someone else to access your account without one of the above.

As suggested by Fuzzy above, if you can't get back into your account, create a new one.
I noticed what may have been you attempting to login.
The failed login accounts both have some sats in them, but alas less than $1 in BTC - less than 1000 sats - so well under the dust limit.
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Re: Eligius pool is back under the new name Ocean
by
kano
on 01/02/2025, 03:02:27 UTC
If the economic incentive to mine in this pool is that bad,
Because it's not, that's just a lie. Our miners have observed 10-15% more earnings than on the competing pools.
lol - did someone hack your account?

That statement is clearly false.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
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kano
on 01/02/2025, 02:54:24 UTC
hello everyone, long time no see, since 2019 to be exact
question....is there any way to recover or reset the 2FA code? i cannot login
any advise?
If you saved the '2FA Secret Key' when you setup 2FA (as it tells you to do) then you can manually use that to setup 2FA on a device.
If you supplied a '2FA recovery phrase' when you setup 2FA, then the password reset will allow you to use that phrase to remove 2FA.
If not, then no, there's no other way to access a 2HA account without 2FA.
Yes it is secure, no it will not allow someone else to access you account without one of the above.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 24/01/2025, 10:49:21 UTC
... so you should set it like other apps:
access the pool from the app, not pass their information to your servers,
that way when the user exceeds the rate, only that user is blocked.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 23/01/2025, 14:28:16 UTC
Hello, we have added kano.is pool support in the MinerBox monitoring app based on our users request but seems our US processing server IP is blocked by pool and we have complains that users facing accounts monitoring issues, so we need some support from tech staff for resolving issue. We PM the details regarding API calls and IP address to "kano (OP)" please check, if it's disrupting pool server please let us know and we will delist pool support from app and inform users, thanks.

It was permanently blocked a few months back for accessing the API with many random garbage usernames,
and usernames with hex codes in them.

The two usernames that were valid before the flurry of invalid usernames,
were accessing the API way more often than the limit and way more often than what you said in PM,
so I take it you have no control over that access rate so you should set it like other apps:
access the pool from the app, not pass their information to your servers,
that way when the user exceeds the rate, only that user is blocked.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 28/11/2024, 06:31:39 UTC
hi! how do I connect to the pool of rent capacity from Nicehash? I can't do it because Nicehash requires diff 500000.
I must be a Solo account

Account->Solo has the option to allow you to set it higher.

Test setup the pool in Fuckhash,

This will create the worker

Under Worker->Management set the worker with high diff

Then it will work
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 11/11/2024, 11:03:42 UTC
Do you mine non standard p2sh scripts ?
Only what bitcoin core accepts.
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Re: Very unofficial review of the BitaxeGamma miner.
by
kano
on 02/11/2024, 22:30:31 UTC
As has been pointed out in other threads, the ESP32 micro-controller used is an extraordinarily poor choice for miners. It is made for use in very simple IoT devices such as sensors, thermostats, wearables, etc. that do not need good performance. Even the maker of them clearly states that. Even the best one only has 2 cores/threads which means that at best it can process hashes and do I/O without having to interrupt the processes provided the main and I/O threads are programmed to run independently. AFAIK the one used in the BitAxe has only 1 core...

All of that out of the way, does it work? Sure - but when there is a change of work and when it talks to the WiFi things slow down a lot. Because Skot is/was an IoT developer it makes some sense that he'd pick the ESP32 just because he is familiar with it. Unfortunately he did not know that you REALLY need a REAL multi-core/threaded CPU to ensure decent performance so the various processes running do not have to interrupt each other. Even the original RasPi-1 used a more capable chip.  ref https://www.elprocus.com/difference-between-esp32-vs-raspberry-pi/

FYI, while the 1st ones from Sidehack will be using the same micro he is already redesigning it to use the Pi Nano to eliminate the processing bottlenecks and also allow using USB along with hardwired LAN connections.
edit: struckout comment on redesign.
Sorry for the long quote..
But I'll post some facts so everyone can form their own opinion;
- The average blocktime is 10 min. (600.000ms)
- My single core esp32-c3's need less than 1ms to check (including crc check/difficulty check/stale check) and submit a found nonce.
- The wireless connection has a sub 20ms latency
- Latency to the pool (solo.ckpool.org for me) including the wireless latency is around 50ms
So, according to my poor math due to the very slow esp32 I will get an additional rejected share every 12.000 submitted shares, ... I know, its shocking Tongue
In reality my rejected shares are anywhere between 1 in 750 .. 3000 shares submitted (depending on connection/pool load?).
In short: the speed of the controller does not in any way/shape or form matter. You can overload an esp32 by (mis)configuring the asic(s), but why would you do that?
...

Sigh ...
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The hash rate of the miner is just the miner ... and it's design and code.

The catch with the esp32 is that it takes milliseconds to change work - that's a problem. Doesn't matter if it only needs work every 2 seconds, BUT for a network block change, it needs the work as soon as the network sends new work to the miner. Delaying that is bad, microseconds are OK, but milliseconds are not. Consider if you are 5ms from a pool node and your miner is slower to change work than the pool can send work to you - doesn't that sound like a bad idea - especially as it's not necessary at all if you use a normal controller. Every miner except the shitaxe does use an appropriate controller.

On top of all that, the mining process itself is time dependent. You want things to happen quickly and data to be sent and received quickly. Nonces coming back from the chips to be processed quickly and network sends of that data to the pool to be quick. Why on earth would you choose a controller that's about 500 times slower than all the others?Huh Oh you can save $5 - wow what a fucking stupid design.
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Re: Very unofficial review of the BitaxeGamma miner.
by
kano
on 30/10/2024, 01:39:05 UTC
As has been pointed out in other threads, the ESP32 micro-controller used is an extraordinarily poor choice for miners. It is made for use in very simple IoT devices such as sensors, thermostats, wearables, etc. that do not need good performance. Even the maker of them clearly states that. Even the best one only has 2 cores/threads which means that at best it can process hashes and do I/O without having to interrupt the processes provided the main and I/O threads are programmed to run independently. AFAIK the one used in the BitAxe has only 1 core...

All of that out of the way, does it work? Sure - but when there is a change of work and when it talks to the WiFi things slow down a lot. Because Skot is/was an IoT developer it makes some sense that he'd pick the ESP32 just because he is familiar with it. Unfortunately he did not know that you REALLY need a REAL multi-core/threaded CPU to ensure decent performance so the various processes running do not have to interrupt each other. Even the original RasPi-1 used a more capable chip.  ref https://www.elprocus.com/difference-between-esp32-vs-raspberry-pi/

FYI, while the 1st ones from Sidehack will be using the same micro he is already redesigning it to use the Pi Nano to eliminate the processing bottlenecks and also allow using USB along with hardwired LAN connections.
edit: struckout comment on redesign.

Nah, the ESP32S3 (indeed dual core) is more than enough for a handful of ASICs. It's your Cortex-A running Linux that is overkill Kiss
lol - even the people who designed and made the ESP32 disagree with you Cheesy
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Re: solo.ckpool.org - If you're mining with ckpool and need graphical stats
by
kano
on 30/08/2024, 00:56:45 UTC
VKBIT,
Would you be able to add "Diff" (Luck) to the individual miner screen/page?
Even though the main pool may be at 156%, individually we are all at something higher or lower because no two miners are working the same block- (each miner is working a custom block because it has their own unique BTC payout address in it).
Just a Thought... you have "Diff" (Pool Luck) on the main page.
Thanks -- great pages BTW

Please be aware that on ckpool solo you cannot calculate luck.
As I've pointed out a few times (e.g. here:)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5492140.msg64034423#msg64034423

It is not (as I've pointed out before) diff/netdiff, it's the sum of diff/netdiff per diffchange.
Using diff/netdiff in general gives a better luck result than it actually is - i.e. it fakes making mining look luckier.

They are already aware, you cannot predict or calculate, you make your own luck in life, in anything, otherwise we will be all millionaires.
Is just for fun as all blocks pops out on ckpool Wink Kano, don't bother.
2 things:
1) Yes you can calculate luck correctly. I do on my pool. Just you can't on ckpool because he doesn't store the necessary information to do it.
2) Luck is ONLY a measurement of historical values, you cannot predict it.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 12/08/2024, 09:26:26 UTC
Lulz - yeah I've literally never sent spam to anyone - ever.
The outgoing server is my own AWS that I've had for a very long time also, so yeah sounds like a bunch of retarded RBL managers.
One big problem with the RBLs is that random people can push you onto them.
Last time I checked, most of the (few) I was on were in russia and were false listings - and you have no chance getting off them.

Interesting you say I'm now on a lot of them, it was only 4-6 last time I bothered to look last year.

They all suck up hard to microshaft and other large email providers so that they don't block most email,
but like to cause problems for small email servers.
Thus when anything shows up, I remove it.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 11/08/2024, 08:41:29 UTC
So many times ... I've been running email servers for over 20 years.

Some of them also have no way to be retracted.

I've submitted a support request to my ISP, I don't suppose they'll pay any attention to it but you never know.

Its not clear what RBL they use, so if I find out I'll let you know.

Thanks anyway.
Well since you know what an RBL is, you'd have to check the relevant ones to determine if it is still in the list or not.
I don't keep track of them once I fail to be removed, so it would depend on the domain.

There are also a lesser few that I block for other reasons, but it would of course depend on the actual domain.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 10/08/2024, 23:13:15 UTC
Some email addresses can't be used coz they falsely decided my mailserver is a spam source.
Considering how few email messages are sent out, and they are only sent to people for account notifications, it's really just a royal PITA.
So if the web page says you can't use an email address, it will be because the mailserver you want says I'm a spam source.

That's a shame. Have you tried submitting a retraction to all of the regular RBLs?
So many times ... I've been running email servers for over 25 years.

Some of them also have no way to be retracted.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
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kano
on 10/08/2024, 11:05:59 UTC
Some email addresses can't be used coz they falsely decided my mailserver is a spam source.
Considering how few email messages are sent out, and they are only sent to people for account notifications, it's really just a royal PITA.
So if the web page says you can't use an email address, it will be because the mailserver you want says I'm a spam source.
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Re: large mining pool that does not publish its mempool
by
kano
on 07/08/2024, 16:46:59 UTC
Other than accepting txns that standard core might not, for any other reason it, to be blunt, seems an odd thing to do.

I guess one use would be, to hide that you've succeeded in stealing someone's BTC, and then there's no chance they could RBF it.

Another point would be that it would delay the transaction.

Since the transaction is going to go public as soon as it ends in a block, I'm wondering what's gained by not distributing your transaction to the network before that happens.
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Re: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks
by
kano
on 20/07/2024, 09:32:05 UTC
What are the reasons to handle the change to solo with these restrictions?
Well next change I do, you'll need to have your account verified and a payout address on both
types.

Verified is obvious - if you don't verify your email you could have one that doesn't work or you
mistyped it (which happens on occasion) so if someone else logs into your account,
coz they got your password from various mistakes people make,
and changes the payout address, you wouldn't get the notification
- and you'd not get any other account change notifications

A payout address is obvious, especially on solo where it's a lot of BTC for anyone who finds a block.
I'm not a bank, I don't want your BTC, so if you get a block on solo, I send it to the payout address,
and thus I don't need to find someone and get their info
e.g. block 847367 I have no idea who they are, never chatted with them, and no info about them except
their email and payout address, so I didn't need to go find them and harass them for a payout address,
they already had one (as per required)

The no-mining is simple, it completely avoids the problem of me having to deal with someone
changing their account after mining a pplns block and expecting me to pay the whole block to them.
Your account type is obvious - bold red, top left when you login.

The current 'switch' was to make it easy to add the option at the time I implemented it.
Next changes, you'll select the account type when you create the account and can never change it.
It will have the restriction that you have to verify your account and set a payout address before mining works,
so effectively the same in that regard.