I guess the summary is there are two types of bustabit players:
a) Those who play casually and against the house (and generally are bonus oblivious)
b) Those who play competitively for bonuses


libertynow with his bonus bot obviously belong to group b) and greatly benefits from playing against people in group a) (to their detriment).

I think it's the fairest approach to try separate these groups of players, I'm just trying to find the smoothest way to do it.  One thing I'm experimenting now with is a special PvP variant of bustabit with high bonuses, starting from 0.9x and being 0% house edge. And to limit the unbounded risk of offering a 0% house edge game, if the net profit is < 0, there will be a small rake. (e.g. if the game loses 20 BTC, there will be a 0.1% rake, or 100 BTC and a 1% rake etc. )


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Anyway, nothing is going to be happening soon. So no need to panic. Just playing around with stuff to do my best to make everyone happy 

Let's stop right there! If bonus hunters don't play, then is it not profitable again?

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This may be akin to stating, "it's a terrible move to bluff on the river: you shouldn't shove with nothing," yet if we keep that ideology, then it suddenly becomes a +ev move. If it's always terrible to bluff on the river and nobody does it, then would it not be profitable to do so? Your opponents would never think that you were bluffing!

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But in correspondence with bustabit, this will simply result in a sort of oscillation in the number of players.

For the record, I hate the idea of splitting the player base since the great aspect of the game is that the people who grind the bonus% can gain an edge from the people who don't care about the bonus%.  By splitting it up, it seems like the only people playing the bonus game will be the ones who are actually competitive for the bonus which will essentially kill the game.

But I mean, I get it.  By eliminating the bonus aspect, you'll attract a clientele who aims for higher bust numbers, which have higher house edges.  

What is new on the next version of bustabit except for busting up my money?  It's been a year since the last time I play this game which resulted to lose half of my asset that time.
Are there any cool features just like a rebate for the loss that you had and bonuses? I might be interested in this game again. I will keep an eye for this update, I hope that you will bring something cool on the site. Goodluck

Not really, the change isn't expected to make me any less or more money. The issue is this, I love the idea of pvp gambling and think it's really cool and indeed something that makes bustabit unique. However for players who play purely against the house,  the pvp aspect does them a disservice (they unknowingly get taken advantage of by players who are playing pvp).

Based on my unscientific polling and analysis, leads me to believe that playing bonus oblivious is by far the most common way to play bustabit. So for that reason, I think the most reasonable and fair thing to do, is split it into two games. One specifically for people who want to play against each other. And one for people who want to play against the house

 

I'm currently working with the idea that in the pvp version, the multiplier starts at 0.9x and increases from there. The bonuses would work just like they do currently on bustabit, except that they would be an average of 10% instead of 1%

My current plans  are to remove bonuses completely from the main game (and put that in a separate, much more pvp game with ~10% bonuses). I really hate to remove the bonuses and variable-house edge, but with the vast majority of bustabit players playing "bonus oblivious" I can't help but feel I'm doing them a disservice.

Why did RoberBaron fall from +4btc to -2btc?
Have u any expierence with percentage bet (percentage of bank)?
What algorithm do u use to cashout instanly?

Right, but theoretically you could have a scenario where it's impossible to play +EV, no? Does your bot account for that?

This is all assuming that enough games can be +EV right? Given where the whales cash out, not every game is +EV?

You can't beat the EV that is why it is an EV. Just gamblers fallacy to believe a bot can magically do what a human cannot.

libertynow, is RoberBaron your account? same bets and cashouts.

You calculate it in real-time?

His bot seems to be doing reasonably well. It's wagered wagered 501.34 BTC, but got 8.1453 BTC in bonuses. His average cash out is around 1.28x, so that puts him pretty firmly in +EV territory.

https://www.bustabit.com/user/EDGE_NXTAE

Not looking too good right now, is it?