Just wanted to comment on this.
You haven't played with Richard_geil since he only plays eth and higher stakes than you.
He is the person who is
A. Not from the same location as me, but with the same internet provider
B. Has similar preflop (3% vpip difference is quite large) stats over a 2000 hand sample, despite me playing heads up for part of that sample.
C. Played less than 20% of his hands with me at the table.

86% of hands are played with mosty Tao_Dang at the table because we play during the same times and he sits every table (just like you, we probably played a lot together too). And the number is a lot because it was very few sessions - I'm sure he played large volume without me.

The person who you played with me at the same table is Tao_Dang who:
A. Has different login times than me.
B. Did not play 86% of his hands with me
C. Does not have similar stats to me.
D. Is from a different location

This is what I mean when I say that cryptopokerclub is twisting facts and showing partial information.

Are we friends? Yes. Is that a reason to confiscate over 10000$ worth of money from me, most of which I deposited - certainly not.
Are you saying otherwise?

In order for there to be collusion there needs to be proof, and that can only be found in handhistories, not in circumstancial evidence that only shows that people know each other and played together. Knowing someone that you play with is not a crime. Collusion is communicating while playing in order to gain an unfair advantage - this didn't happen and if it had I wouldn't be asking for the hand histories to be made public.

The accusations against cryptopokerclub are mostly about botting and collusion, and from my end about unfairly stealing user funds. I'm happy they are letting you withdraw so far - I felt quite safe/happy until they took my money as well. It's everyone's decision to make what risk they are willing to take with their money, and I sincerely hope that you don't live to regret the decision to keep money there.

Adding this just so there is no mixup about my motivations here:
If the money is ever returned (which it won't be) I would be happy for it to be held in escrow by a reputable community member and donated to charity.

Cryptopokerclub - as before you continue to ignore any points made and blatantly hide information.
Your new post pretty much adds nothing - there are both questions and allegations against you and you keep ignoring them.
You do not ban anyone without overwhelming evidence? I have yet to see ANY evidence.
Why do you continue to gain popularity if all you do is steal and scam... is such a stupid thing to write. I really have no words.
And the nerve of calling me a troll while ignoring every single thing I write and holding my money... you have to be really shameless people to do something like that.

I'll repeat again.

You've confiscated my funds without evidence. I have a list of questions for you in my reply document, as well as requests for information.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fbQ0wXlWytBk53keNE-Njf95_yyFGBYg/view

You have also been accused by multiple users of running a collusion/botting group yourselves.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-seizing-funds-deposits-not-safe-1745287/

If you are not scamming people, take this seriously, look at my list of points, and reconsider the ban.
If you keep replying with zero information posts and ignoring the relevant questions and requests people have for you, we all know that you have nothing to say.


The email in your post btw... looks totally real. I'm sure everyone buys it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fbQ0wXlWytBk53keNE-Njf95_yyFGBYg This is my point by point reply to the baseless claims by this site.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-seizing-funds-deposits-not-safe-1745287/ Here you can see cryptopokerclub - the entire story of them confiscating large amounts of funds without evidence or due procedure in a one-sided manner, as well as multiple people talking about scams and theft in their club.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4051790.new#new Here you can see my correspondence with them on this issue.

I'd also recommend a mod post a warning about this site.

I think he actually posted a link with a lot of people complaining about your site scamming people. Would you like to comment on the content there or rather keep ignoring it?
I'll repost in case you missed it:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-seizing-funds-deposits-not-safe-1745287/

Funny enough someone having grammatical errors is not really a good reason to ignore what he says. Nice try.

I'll add I am also still waiting for your reply regarding my request for information. But I am assuming that will never come, correct?

I actually found a few more links I advise people to read before depositing:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4881012.20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4888139.0

Either reply or stop posting CryptoPokerClub this is a forum not an advertising billboard.

It is not trolling when you confiscate funds without due procedure. You can keep ignoring it and calling it a troll as much as you want... as you said people will judge for themselves.
No need to resort to name-calling. Lets stick to the facts? I've asked for you to make certain information public and pointed out why your conclusions were wrong. Still waiting for a reply. Only reason I'm doing this in public is that you don't reply to emails. Why don't you care about the truth???

@Cryptopokerclub you not replying to my points shows very clearly you have no interest in the truth but only in keeping the money you stole from me.

Are you really comfortable ignoring this? Do you not care what actually happened?

Not replying to relevant points and requests to make information public looks really bad for you...

I am getting a stronger and stronger feeling you guys really need the money you confiscated from my account - was it used to develop your android app? Seems very clear you have a very strong motivation to keep it as real and relevant points have been made, any reasonable person would be worried about being wrong and take the situation seriously. Why haven't you made the handhistories public, and how can you expect anyone to trust you with the one-sided, obtuse and aggressive way you've been handling this?

Your claim was "Either you are controlling both accounts or know the suspect and are working together to gain an advantage."
It's clear that I'm not controlling both accounts, as the owner of the second account has come forward and we are both well-known and thus neither of our identities is fake.
So, the other possibility remains: collusion, that we have been working together to gain an advantage.
To that end, our login times, IPs and individual play patterns are irrelevant.
The onus is on you to show that our play patterns have deviated when playing in the same table compared to when playing in different tables.
You have done nothing of the sort, so there is no basis for the accusation of gaining an advantage.

Hence, your claim is baseless. You have no reasonable basis for the assumption of collusion, and thus you are not entitled to the money in the account.
Moreover, this claim puts me at risk of reputational damage, as a person teaching others for a living. If you do not withdraw these unfounded claims, I will be forced to pursue reparations.

Attached is a point by point reply to your "evidence" document.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fbQ0wXlWytBk53keNE-Njf95_yyFGBYg

Thanks,
Uri

Thank you Tortic that is good advice, I'll look into it. Will post a link here when the thread is ready.

This is a link to a post containing excerpts of the emails:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/cryptopokerclub-seizing-funds-deposits-not-safe-1745287/

Please look through it and then tell me what you think. If the details in the video were hard for you to view, you should state that when replying - since it does contain all the correspondence with the site. Giving an opinion without knowing any of the details is a bit premature.

The site did not even claim that the same ip was used.

You post only makes you look more like a casino rep.

Seriously... you can't take someone to court, decide he's guilty, and then when he refutes things you say respond with "that only makes you look more guilty".

What's going on here is very kafkaesque and very disturbing and if you weren't a casino rep I'd be surprised you don't see that.

This is one of the issues causing a conflict of interest. If a player is banned - the site keeps his funds.
This means it is in their direct financial interest to ban players with large account balances.

I've read the post - does anyone know who Mark Jameson is, or what country crypto poker club is registered in?
Is this a real company with an address we can go to if shit hits the fan?

Or is this a misuse of the crypto technology to remain anonymous and unaccountable while holding other peoples' money?

All poker sites have a real address and company behind them and their have been lawsuits in the past about people being wrongfully banned - but I'm not sure any legal recourse is possible when the people behind the company are hidden/invisible - which raises an alarming question regarding the inherent conflict of interest here.

I'm not sure I understand you post.
My point was that the site is keeping the money to themselves.

In most poker sites when someone is banned for collusion, effected players are reimbursed.

Either way, my main point is that as you can see from the email correspondence, the players were banned without looking at play history or handhistories based on very circumstancial and partial evidence, and letting the site get away with this is a dangerous precedent.

One of the issues with a crypto poker site like this is - these guys are holding a lot of money, and can dissappear with it at a moment's notice - and you'd have no address to complain to - because there is no official company or person behind the site.

When this is the situation, they need to be extra careful and clear to do only trustworthy and transparent actions, or trust is gone.

If I'm wrong about this and there is a public company or figure standing behind this site, please let me know.

I wonder why you're assuming the site was ok?
If you watch the video, no handhistories were reviewed and there were a lot of signs that point towards the two players not colluding, but the site did not care, their decision was final and they refused to review further facts.
There were also simply put not enough hands to establish the claims the site made, any poker player would know this but the site's security team do not understand poker.

I feel like at this point this site is more dangerous than the colluders themselves, just confiscating money based on correlations without proof, and refusing to review. Has the money confiscated been redistributed to players? I would bet a lot that the site is keeping all of it.

Crypto Poker Club seized two players' poker balances and cited collusion as the reason.

Here is a video about the situation including the emails back and forth
https://youtu.be/S_Fjvgf4qhg

The emails from the site seem brutally unfair to me. As the video states, it feels like something either very shady or very stupid is going on here.

Is there a Crypto Poker Club representative who would like to comment?