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Re: [ANN] LuckyCoin LKY | Lucky Blocks | Fast | Fun | Fair
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melander81
on 05/02/2025, 02:04:05 UTC
Hello, I have an amount of this currency mined in 2014, but due to the lost blocks the wallet does not update, confirm the transactions received in the wallet, is there no possibility of recovering these blocks?

I was able to run a client using old bootstrap data.
Chain is running fine up to 1.6M blocks.
Check if you wallet is recognized with this true revival.
Details are on my X post:
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1873286349232783824
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1872675313156849960


It looks like they forked the forked revival to v4.
This was because of a replay attack which the chain was susceptible to.
They did not account for that possibility early on.
And was claiming these "dormant" wallets was provenance that it is still the OG Lucky.

They ended up blacklisting the dormant wallets, since it was moved and probably was sold in exchanges.
What a mess...
Now, their solution is to just blacklist over 2M coins and continue on with the narrative.
So technically, the chain does not have that legacy anymore since they completely disregarded the so called "dormant wallets".

Funny thing is, due to merge mining, v3 is still running.
I did spun up an explorer for it which I will keep running with a v3 seed node as well.
Why? Because I can.

Check out the explorer here of Lucky V3.
There is currently 11TH/s of hash power that is moving the chain along.
http://213.199.44.225:3001/
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 05/02/2025, 01:54:08 UTC
I am an original Luckycoin holder,
however I was investing not only in LKY, but also in BTC in 2014, so I don't need to post here for money.
You will be surprised, but I am ready to spend money for listing original LKY on normal exchanges and on pools.
I have a thought of hiring lawyers to check if everything is okay with this "revival", when funds disappear.
However, for now I am just trying to find a normal solution, which could take into account interests of majority of holders, including buyers of new LKY.

If Bells did the same "revival"  (don't know much about it though), I agree that it was a fraud too. When we were talking with you in another thread, you agreed that this LKY "revival" is "garbage" and you told that you're not involved with that:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6017.msg64850582#msg64850582

Let's not forget that he promoted it too.
It might be indirect, but the LKY revivers who also ran OPNET leveraged his post.
See tweet here:
https://x.com/LuckyCoinProj/status/1844540427178856927
Reference post here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214614.msg64614545#msg64614545
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 09/01/2025, 07:16:34 UTC
If you really want to find an answer to your question why they closed deposits, then you should ask them (exchanges) directly.
And if you still think I know anyone from these exchanges, then you are totally mistaken(you have no tangible proof).

I merely shared public information based on what I can see online.
I have no insider info or anything, heck not even a dev.
I rely on ChatGPT most of the time.

In any case, this does not concern me anymore.
Have a nice day and good luck.
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 08/01/2025, 14:53:45 UTC
From the start this was advertised as Luckycoin restarted at block XXXXX because the chain had essentially been mined by one person for the majority of the last decade, correct? So why after someone on twitter discovered they were able to sync the longer chain did all exchanges freeze deposits and blame some replay attack? The exchanges are older than the fork, there is no risk to them. They just stopped deposits, crashed the market and are killing this coin because they didn't research what they were listing?


There doesn't even seem to be a replay attack just a few transactions that coins be rebroadcast from old wallets. From our perspective, there is some coordination to only let certain people sell this coin.



In case you missed it, the thread I created to document the revival of the OG Lucky was dated 12/28.
Someone saw my post and was able to sync to it much earlier than me.
He started mining from Block 604978
Check the link:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/lky/block.dws?1604978.htm
It is dated 12/28/2024, 6:31:20 PM (UTC+8:00)

The replay attacks happened as early as around 12/26.
It was around this Block 237849.
https://luckyscan.org/block/700e6328d657a919ad0fd83f71a6ce2b03cc87edb619cc3f251d94e32f3539d2

All timestamps are there.

So why blame me for exchanges closing deposits?
A coordinated attack, are you sure?
Show some proof first, don't just spit nonsense.
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 30/12/2024, 15:04:52 UTC
Transactions differ, some inputs are the same
because they occured in July, 2013, before the fork point (November, 2013).
That means they belong to the part of chain from 2013 which is the same for both chains.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/lky/address.dws?L3XnfLo5m3BrZxH5PVxxpg38G8F8X7oDfd.htm
Here we can see that coins were received in 2013 and spent completely in 2015, but on a new chain which doesn't include blocks from 2015 - they could be spent again and that happened (with same inputs from July, 2013).

According to some sources, it looks like it was something called a "replay attack".
The transactions I mentioned above are just some of the few tx that has been recreated.
It does not need any interaction from the original owner of the address.

Any transactions on these old wallets that occurred later after that block can be replicated on the new chain.
As long as certain conditions are met, like balances and destination addresses.
The entire integrity of this "revival" Luckycoin is now compromised.
What a mess.
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 30/12/2024, 02:53:32 UTC
I am not sure what is going on.

I checked the address, L3XnfLo5m3BrZxH5PVxxpg38G8F8X7oDfd on the old explorer.
Saw this transaction:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/lky/block.dws?731493.htm
Happened on block 731493 dated 9/5/2015, 6:56:09 AM (UTC+8:00).

It is literally the same as the new transaction on the revival.
https://luckyscan.org/tx/011960b7cf1f347f5ea161da55e3d0e8d7a6ed742efeb9bf5f5c877f90eded1c
Happened on block 238007 of fork lucky, dated ‎2024-12-26 19:58:12 (4 days ago).

But they are both completely different block height.
WTF
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 30/12/2024, 02:17:24 UTC
Luckycoin is listed on the reputable block explorer service:

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/lky

Their block explorer is on the longest LKY chain, historical, original one.

If you are interested, please contribute and pay several $ for hosting.

oh wow, so my efforts in doing the revival can actually be tracked in real time.
let me look into this and see what we can do
technically, the chain has been running smoothly
the miners have actually spiked the hash rate to almost 2500% since last night.

still trying to deploy my own seed node to keep the chain running as much as possible
thanks for sharing.
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 29/12/2024, 17:18:22 UTC
I was able to completely sync my node to v1.0.1 and start mining original Luckycoin.

What block number are you up to?

It still works.
The restart was a sham.
Only made to benefit the early miners and double spend old coins.

Anybody can do what you did. You can take an old version of Bitcoin, fire it up & be the only miner on the network. Same thing for hundreds of altcoins.


Before I turned off my miner, this was the current block:
{
"blocks" : 1606178,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00094703,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 28309,
"networkhashps" : 127075,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

It was dormant since 2022.
There are other miners testing it now as well.
All details are on my post on X.


If anyone can do it, why the did the revival did not do the same thing I did.
And decided to prune the block data to start at 81k.

Well you do not need to answer, you probably would not know the reason.
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Re: [ANN] LuckyCoin LKY | Lucky Blocks | Fast | Fun | Fair
by
melander81
on 29/12/2024, 17:05:21 UTC
Hello, I have an amount of this currency mined in 2014, but due to the lost blocks the wallet does not update, confirm the transactions received in the wallet, is there no possibility of recovering these blocks?

I was able to run a client using old bootstrap data.
Chain is running fine up to 1.6M blocks.
Check if you wallet is recognized with this true revival.
Details are on my X post:
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1873286349232783824
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1872675313156849960
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 29/12/2024, 08:51:48 UTC
I was able to completely sync my node to v1.0.1 and start mining original Luckycoin.
It still works.
The restart was a sham.
Only made to benefit the early miners and double spend old coins.
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1873288732612411476
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 29/12/2024, 04:21:51 UTC

LuckyC created LKY and left it shortly after pump-and-dump was finished, not caring about the fact that the first wallet had critical security issues: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214614.msg2540519#msg2540519

Luckycoin security update was made by Titan (one who created this ANN thread):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236714.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236714.msg2670491#msg2670491
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214614.msg2502895#msg2502895

Titan was in charge for several versions of wallets, for ACP (advanced check pointing system, preventing 51% attacks) which was implemented in November, 2013,
additionally for OpenSSL heartbleed fix in v1.0.1:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214614.msg6163819#msg6163819

The latest stable version 1.0.1 was in use since 2014 and the wallet has been working flawlessly for many years:
https://github.com/LuckycoinFoundation/Luckycoin - source
https://github.com/LuckycoinFoundation/LuckycoinQT - release
The links are from OP.


Thanks for the summary.
So, with regards to this information, the original creator did not even care to manage the client properly, just left immediately.
Titan contributed more in further development of the project.

Curious on who is in control of these old wallets that has been recently activated.
And is actively moving coins across multiple wallets.
They probably planning to do something...
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1873216900295213253

I highly doubt it is LuckyC.
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 28/12/2024, 14:20:54 UTC

Hi

When someone revives a coin, it is obvious that you have to revive it from the last block of the longest chain,
to include all transactions - that guarantees all funds are safe, all is fair.

In case with LKY, "revival" made a hard fork from the block deep in the past (found on Nov, 25, 2013), 11 years ago.
After this block there is a gap to August 2024. All coins accumulated since Nov, 25, 2013 till August 2024 are not present in the new chain.

Then it is a question why that was made in a so strange way, with so much evil for many holders.
Why just not revive from the latest block with all those transactions happened since Nov, 25, 2013 included?

One who made a "revival" probably owned LKY in Nov, 2013 and then sent coins to Cryptsy exchange wallet when there was a famous pump called "Remember the moon in November".
Then sold LKY on Cryptsy to investors who were buying Luckycoin. So, investors paid their BTC and got LKY after Nov, 25, 2013 - on Cryptsy platform and then sent LKY from Cryptsy to their wallets - after Nov, 25, 2013.

But if you restart the project from the block found on Nov, 25, 2013, when coins were present in the wallet of one who sold them on Cryptsy later, the person again owns the coins which were sold many years ago, and is able to double spend them now.
While investors, who bought coins many years ago, don't have them any longer, because these transactions are not present in the new chain.
That looks like a new, uncommon type of double spend, with 11 year gap, hidden under "revival" idea.

That is just a logical explanation of why the block in the deep past was chosen to "revive" the project.
Even if it is not exactly what happened, anyway investors were buying LKY in 2014 and later, now their holdings are not present in the chain, and new investors are buying the same concept.
So, in any case it looks like double selling of one concept (under one name, logo, story) - because previous buyers automatically lost their share in LKY project.


Understood. This explains a lot.
So rolling back the chain to a much earlier state allows someone who still has access to these old wallets to spend them now in the new fork.
Completely negating any newer transactions that were done before.

Which probably explains why these so called "dormant" wallets has become active again.
I made a post about it recently on X.
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1872301134813237399
The scary thing is, this unknown user seems to have access to multiple wallets.
Distributed some old coins to new addresses.
The LKY revivers seems to promote that it was the og dev "LuckyC" is in control of this wallets.
What do you think?

Also, I was experimenting with the og LKY client v1.0.1 and saw a bootstrap.dat file which was still downloadable.
Ran the clien with it, and it is syncing way past this so called "revival".
Currently at  block 537269, dated March 19, 2015.
https://imgur.com/a/Pb8lwfW
Posted about it too to highlight the fact that the og chain is still downloadable and syncing.
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1872675313156849960
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Re: [ANN] Luckycoin LKY | New Official Thread | Get Lucky!
by
melander81
on 27/12/2024, 04:59:20 UTC
from the block 81,743 (Nov25, 2013)? lky was pumped on cryptsy in November 2013 and sold to many accounts in 2013-2014, and now forking from the point before that, hidden double spend with 11 year gap

hey there, thanks for sharing
curious on this double spend that happened before.

are you saying that this double spend was still included in this new fork of LKY that is running right now?
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Re: [ANN][BEL] Bells - Fast and fun! - Scrypt - Random Block Rewards - No Premine
by
melander81
on 04/12/2024, 01:51:46 UTC
I am really confused by your posts.
You keep quoting new Bells.
My research is purely referring to the OG Bellscoin.

That doesn't exist anymore.

What I am trying to establish is the direct connection of OG Bellscoin to OG Dogecoin.
Because that is what Billy has mentioned.

Is there a Discord where I can see what Billy has said about the New Bells? Has he actually supported it? If so, I'd like to see what he said.

Take your comments elsewhere.
This thread is OG Bellscoin in case you did not notice.

You should start a new thread of your own and stop trying to deceive others into thinking your Bells has anything to do with this one.

edit:

Like, have you no shame at all? Obviously not. Anyway, I just want to point out that the below statement is 100% lies; you must be a complete piece of shit to support this scumbag scammer in any way:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdyFNMoWwAAHgGt?format=png&name=small

Good day.
This will be my last interaction on this post.
Just to let you know, I am merely a holder and understands what I have bought into.

My research is purely to establish the connection of the original Bellscoin that still exists as a downloadable source for anyone to use and run if they want to.
Believe what you want to believe.

If you have a personal problem with the Bells revival, and all the people involved with it, post it on public so that more people are aware of your claims.

* Tell it to Bitmain and other ASIC miner manufacturers, that are launching Scrypt miners highlighting merge mining of LTC+DOGE+BEL.
* Tell it to the LTC mining pools that have added support for BELLS, including ViaBTC, F2Pool and even Binance.
Check here:
https://miningpoolstats.stream/bells
* Tell it to the devs who are working actively to improve this revived version of Bellscoin.
Go here:
https://github.com/Nintondo
Where in V3, they incorporated Syscoin merge mining code which allows better future proofing and removing the tech debt of Dogecoin updates.
Other revival chains rely on the updates released by Bellscoin coin, without the revival meta kickstarted by Bellscoin, we would not be having this conversation.

Lastly, tell it to Billy who has shown support for this revival and even chimed in on Discord to suggest that merge mining should be integrated right away.
Here is a screenshot of his messages on Discord
https://imgur.com/a/MKTbnTh
Discord link is here: https://discord.gg/wkWV8YYk

/end

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Re: [ANN][BEL] Bells - Fast and fun! - Scrypt - Random Block Rewards - No Premine
by
melander81
on 02/12/2024, 07:18:26 UTC

Again, none of this has anything to do with the fraud you're peddling. Your Bellscoin is literally forked from Dogecoin:

https://github.com/bellscoin-community/bellscoinv2

Archive in case its deleted:

https://web.archive.org/web/20241126232234/https://github.com/bellscoin-community/bellscoinv2

For the non-technical minded, here's a great article that explains why the New Bells is a fraud:

https://theogoodman.medium.com/the-truth-about-bellscoin-and-og-memecoins-505bc5925a79

Here's the 3 things you need to know, which have been explained previously in this thread:

- the New Bells block #1 is from December 2023 (all previous chain history has been wiped, despite continuing for at least 2 years after the 2013 launch date) (happy 1st birthday)
- the New Bells is a fork of Dogecoin (not the other way around as these scammers keep insisting)
- there is literally zero connection between the New Bells and the Old Bells, on a technical level.

Buyer bewarned.

I am really confused by your posts.
You keep quoting new Bells.
My research is purely referring to the OG Bellscoin.

What I am trying to establish is the direct connection of OG Bellscoin to OG Dogecoin.
Because that is what Billy has mentioned.
And that is what the repos are showing.

Take your comments elsewhere.
This thread is OG Bellscoin in cases you did not notice.
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Re: [ANN][BEL] Bells - Fast and fun! - Scrypt - Random Block Rewards - No Premine
by
melander81
on 02/12/2024, 03:18:38 UTC
Just leaving this here for everyone to see.
Doge devs will not accept changing what they have on the site.
Specifically the part where "Dogecoin is a fork of Luckycoin".
When all the code shows is that Dogecoin was a fork of Bellscoin.
Billy said it, AI confirms it.

Here is the summary of my research on Bellscoin being forked to create Dogecoin:

1. The Genesis Block message is the same: https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1862512487868112906
2. The Bellscoin logo on the Dogecoin Client: https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1862897218107453770
3. AI comparing repos of Luckycoin, Bellscoin and Dogecoin to explain lineage: https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1863226678740492632

Sources:
main.cpp file for all coins mentioned (oldest versions available):
https://github.com/maxpwr/Luckycoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp
https://github.com/bellscoin/bellscoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp
https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/8b09dc5d711bc0bedefc29c199a79ce39f691558/src/main.cpp


Bellscoin Logo on Dogecoin client (v1.0) video:
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1863270288974344270
bitcoin.icns file link:
https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/8b09dc5d711bc0bedefc29c199a79ce39f691558/src/qt/res/icons/bitcoin.icns

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Re: [ANN][BEL] Bells - Fast and fun! - Scrypt - Random Block Rewards - No Premine
by
melander81
on 01/12/2024, 11:27:59 UTC
This is what happens when you throw your money into one of the griftiest projects of 2024: you get laughed at by one of the most well-respected devs in crypto.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/11/27/b0cw5.png

You need to read the whole thread + comments:

https://x.com/patricklodder/status/1861863432288358910

Will just leave this here:
https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/v1.2/src/qt/res/icons/bitcoin.icns

This has nothing to do with what you're so desperately peddling. Your Bells is literally a fork of Dogecoin, and not the way around, as you shamelessly continue to try to trick people into believing. How can it be? The first block wasn't mined until Dec 2023. 

You were warned the "Bells revival" project was started by a known grifter, presented plenty evidence, yet chose to ignore it. So now you get to reap what you've sown.

Did I referenced the new Bells on my tweet?
This is all Billy's work that I am talking about.

Proving the true source of OG Dogecoin is OG Bellscoin.
OG Luckycoin was forked by Billy to create OG Bellscoin.
As per his tweet, only took him 10 minutes to create Bellscoin from it.

The Luckycoin running right now is not even the OG anymore since it would not work with the OG client.
It had to be modified, or to be exact, the client for Bells V2 had to be forked to run Lucky fork chain 3.0.
And using only partial blocks instead of full blockdata is kinda sus in my book.
The worst part is running Lucky v2 side by side with another Lucky running v1 is another shady act by the devs who did the restart.
https://x.com/ZachZwei/status/1858144255107277055

This is the truth and there is no hiding from it.

By the way, your true nature has been exposed and you cannot hide from that as well.
https://x.com/notsofast/status/1860761100221907058

One last thing.
Still waiting for your proof regarding your claims that Bellscoin team created the Luckycoin explorer.
I guess, you still have yet to find one to back it up.
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Re: [ANN][BEL] Bells - Fast and fun! - Scrypt - Random Block Rewards - No Premine
by
melander81
on 01/12/2024, 01:37:21 UTC
This is what happens when you throw your money into one of the griftiest projects of 2024: you get laughed at by one of the most well-respected devs in crypto.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/11/27/b0cw5.png

You need to read the whole thread + comments:

https://x.com/patricklodder/status/1861863432288358910

Will just leave this here:
https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/blob/v1.2/src/qt/res/icons/bitcoin.icns

Or see my posts about it here:
https://x.com/zachzwei/status/1862897218107453770
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Re: [ANN] LuckyCoin LKY | Lucky Blocks | Fast | Fun | Fair
by
melander81
on 30/11/2024, 15:23:56 UTC
Hello, I have an amount of this currency mined in 2014, but due to the lost blocks the wallet does not update, confirm the transactions received in the wallet, is there no possibility of recovering these blocks?

If you have mined the Original Luckycoin from 2014, then this new version might not include your wallet from 2014.
It is because they only restored up to block 81743, which only dates back to ‎2013-11-26.
See it here:
https://luckyscan.org/block/8207c3debfc663fa00874d99da4fa8946b7ad0dab61b567c1db7cf778aa7491f

After that, it is a completely new chain, a hard fork from the original.
Block81744 started ‎2024-08-25.
https://luckyscan.org/block/93a7660b2fd31f2a1a5578ff2af8078a9256be75928d55a88184f355679bb7c5
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Re: [ANN] LuckyCoin LKY | Lucky Blocks | Fast | Fun | Fair
by
melander81
on 21/11/2024, 02:53:48 UTC
Cmon man get a grip. You're saying Bells people didn't do it?

Utter retardation. You're good at being a snake though. I'll give you that.

BTW I own neither Bells nor Lucky nor will I ever.



I asked for proof.
If you cannot show it then it proves you are throwing false accusations.
Good job on doing that.