Time to immigrate to China for air you can't breathe, water you can't drink, and everyone is a xenophobe... but at least the power is cheap!



Yeah, you're another drunk russian dumbass that just spouts random shit out your ass you can't actually back up. Adding your newbie account to ignore along with Adfje. Keep banging your drum about your $32 a day per 1070.

You sound exactly like adfjuas, another drunk russian?

You're gambling. There are plenty of new shitcoins that never turn into anything or even get listed on exchanges. You can do EXACTLY the same thing by prospecting with cryptos, IE just buying them on exchanges, only you wouldn't have sunk thousands of dollars into hardware.

Zero day mining has been known about since time began, this isn't new. You win the lottery once, doesn't mean you're going to continually win the lottery. It's not hard to watch BCT for new coins popping up and then just dump hashrate on them and pray that it turns into something big. That's no different then bag holding.

And, no, you actually have a monetary value associate with a coin WHEN it's on a exchange, when it's not on an exchange you're literally playing in the dark. It's more risky to mine a unlisted coin then invest in one that's on the market. You have no stats or history to look at.



Just as a FYI gambling with zero day mining and unlisted coins != earning $8 a day with a niche coin. Niche coins are listed, but not exploited. You can calculate your profit on them.

I don't think some of you understand how mining works. Mining is a pie, rewards are distributed among all participants. That means the more miners hope on a coin, the less you earn. When people start earning less then lets say about average earnings they switch coins. When they switch coins, they, of course hope on other coins. This means when you're talking about mainstream coins they're a order of magnitude larger then small coins.

Lets talk context here. Zcash, just Zcash, none of the other large and mainstream cryptos has 400Mh on it. At 460s per 1070 that's 869,565 1070s. Lets assume on average each user has 3 GPU rigs, that's 18 cards, that's ~48,000 miners. The closer we get to power costs, the more desperate those users get to find new coins that they can mine at profit. That means they will load balance themselves across multiple coins, that's what they do, that's what YOU do. That's just one coin. I don't think you guys realize how close we are to oblivion when we approach energy costs on mainstream coins. Those miners wont switch off their rigs, they'll mine negative and a lot of them will find something, anything they can mine that will earn them more. That makes it much, much, much, much harder to find niche coins that earn you your profit.

When profit is up on mainstream coins that means it's much easier to reap profits on niche coins as people get lazy and complacent, like Nicehash miners. When profit goes down, everything dries up, especially now days when we have many more miners then we had say a year ago. That's a lot more eyeballs and a lot more people search for those niche coins. Where you could mine a niche coin for months before, you get days. I mined one for about 9 months last year before it was eventually whored out and now it no longer produces as most people know about it. Coins are generally non-renewable, once enough people find out about it to equalize it with mainstream coins it's dead.

It's pretty hilarious that some of you think that mainstream coins have absolutely no impact on your lives, they do, the entire crypto scene rotates around them.



Yup and then some people gamble with unlisted coins. That's not profit and not something you can talk about as if that's day to day income. You can just as easily, actually more easily, simply prospect by trading and do the same thing.

xcn? )))
In fact argo (skein) was making good profit as it was pumped

What? You don't waste your time waffle (whatever that means), brown nosing (who?), berating smarter (also who)?

No shit, do you think I'm the only one looking for opportunities? It's pretty easy to pull random shit out of your ass you don't actually need to back up and chances are you can't actually do that as you don't do it for yourself.

Yes. Not sure how that relates to what we're talking about though nor would you actually share it regardless of my 'stance' and if you would you're a idiot. As I'm quite familiar with cryptos you're talking out your ass and if you aren't it's a super small niche that can be easily exploited, which leads back to my original 'it'll be gone in a day if it's not'.

I bet you are. You know there are quite a few calculators that are broken, this website https://www.crypto-coinz.net/crypto-calculator/ especially so, showing something like $40 per day for a 1070 mining Bulkwark. It's been broken since it's release and is off by anywhere to 30-50% worse then what you can mine, worst I've seen is 80%. Most coins you can't calculate with a simple difficulty/hashrate/block time/block reward/coin value calculation. That website is a stellar example of JUST that. Either the person who designed the website is an inept programmer, is trying to mislead miners, or never verifies these calculations.

Really am tired with arguing with retards around here. Hey look guys, I mined Bulkwark for $40 per day, teehee. Always verify your earnings.


XCN has very low emission.

There isn't one, he's a dumbass and if there is it's going to be gone within a day. And yes, when all the mainstream coins are diving close to negative that is most definitely time to worry. In the rare case you have a niche coin that people haven't found, they will, and once they do it'll be gone instantly.

More then likely he's just a idiot and can't calculate his profit properly. There are plenty of those around.



This whole last month was really weird, cryptos were in decline, but there were tons of miners trying to get into mining. It's not like mining just magically popped out of thin air, it was one of the worst months to get into it, but demand on GPUs is super high and continues even till today, although it looks like the smart ones stopped buying as preorders and in stock models are popping up right now at inflated prices. We aren't going to see GPU prices go back to normal for another couple weeks.

I don't think newer miners understand that mining profit chases market prices. If coins are in decline ESPECIALLY BTC you WILL be making less money, not just that, but you will be making a lot less, it just takes time for profits and whole network hash distribution to equalize. There are plenty of GPUs that were bought for mining that are in shipping, haven't been setup, or still aren't mining the right currency, all the while BTC is still receding with no bottom in sight yet. If you have a chance to send your GPUS back I would HIGHLY ADVISE you send them back. Cancel your preorder if you have one. The entire last month and a half has been in decline across all crypto markets.

If we hit $5k I'm pretty sure we're screwed. If you buy electricity at $.1kwh, which most of the US does you're going to be going negative.

We might be going back to power break even. Video cards are still sold out everywhere. New miners have no idea what's coming.

Start saving up your wad of cash for the eBay bailouts.

Why do I see pretty much all these masternode coins popping up and getting listed on the same exchange? That's the only exchange entertaining them and nobody else. What is especially so different about these new coins that make them standout? Nothing new in the roadmap and devs loosing interest half way through when they have made decent money out of the premine.

Selling 1836 ARGO @ 0.00015 BTC rate.

Is mining this coin profitable? People in discord selling around 0.000012
That's way to low to be profitable in mining? I'm getting 15 coins per day with two 1080ti and that wouldn't even cover the electricity costs ..??

very few and it's not even on exchange so i'm not sure where he found the $6 per day...

net is almost 9 tera and emission is only 1260 coin/day, do the math, with one 1080ti you are making peanuts...

Working on lux #2 with a fee. 44 MHASH.