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Re: Instawallet claim process
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nellybear
on 20/07/2013, 09:37:47 UTC
My meagre amount's paid out, thanks guys Cheesy

Bit concerned about the expired SSL certificate - I thought you were planning on relaunching instawallet.org at some point?  Bad timing for the certificate to be left to expire during the claims process at the very least...
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Re: Instawallet claim process
by
nellybear
on 14/07/2013, 10:19:14 UTC
If it's as simple as you being off work for the weekend then that's fine

Today is Bastille Day, and they're all probably partying hard right now Cheesy

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So here is exactly how this will all happen :

    Today (July the 11th) at 10PM CEST, after 91 days, the claims submission interface will be disabled
    On July the 12th we will handle the claims that came in after our last processing batch and before the cutoff
    At the end of that day we'll have a surrogate payouts table
    We'll update the claims interface with this data and make it publicly available
    We will then proceed to go mind our own business for the week-end
    On Friday the 19th of July we'll broadcast a payout for all accepted claims [1]
    For three months after this we'll make weekly payouts for the claims that got accepted during the previous considered week

(my emphasis added)
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Re: Instawallet claim process
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nellybear
on 12/07/2013, 08:46:55 UTC
Everything has been done in a way that it needed to be.

If they were just to send out the money they have for each wallet without first checking what would they do if there was a mistake.

Don't worry guys. Some people have faith.

I have faith too, I am sure davout & co will do what's right, and I also think the thoroughness IS a good idea.  Better safe than sorry.

What does puzzle me though is the large gap between the claim window closing and the processing required in order to put the final "claim claim" into motion - surely in all the preceding days the bulk of this processing could have been done ready for the initial claim window closure.

BUT, I am making the assumption that they didn't get several million conflicting claims to sift through on or near the very last day - the reality is that the only people who know are davout & co.  So I'll just shut up and be patient :-)
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Re: Instawallet claim process
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nellybear
on 12/07/2013, 08:39:38 UTC
Isn't that what the initial claim process was for, verifying who owned what and checking that the amount was correct?  Why do we now need to claim our claim?

Are you now claiming that to claim a claim that a claim must be reclaimed in order to claim that claim?

Also, I briefly saw the "claim claim" screen yesterday, but it's gone again, was that in error or did I miss the window to claim my claim my claim my claim my claim?
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Re: Instawallet claim process
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nellybear
on 12/07/2013, 08:36:39 UTC
First promise wasn't kept (1 July),
second (11 July) wasn't kept too.
Now they say "maybe next friday", if everything is clear.
And everybody is happy with that, I'm not.

You're welcome to drop by our office and explain to us how we should securely handle the distribution of a couple million dollars worth of virtual currency to a flock of anonymous users.

Any better ideas than having the users sign-off their claims themselves to ensure that everything is correct before sending out tons of money irrevocably over the internet ? Seriously, go for it, I'm listening.

Isn't that what the initial claim process was for, verifying who owned what and checking that the amount was correct?  Why do we now need to claim our claim?

Are you now claiming that to claim a claim that a claim must be reclaimed in order to claim that claim?
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Re: Instawallet claim process
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nellybear
on 10/07/2013, 22:26:08 UTC
It's now 11th of July in Franceland, a full 10 days after what the claims screen still says is return-the-BTC-to-its-owners day, and 1 day more than the 90 days that's been promised too.

Fingers crossed this really is the day the BTC comes back home - good luck davout and co!
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Re: Instawallet claim process
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nellybear
on 06/07/2013, 17:50:30 UTC
Either way if i get my money back this Thursday all will be forgiven and I'll be taking the missus somewhere nice for the weekend Wink

Sounds like a plan!  Now, where can I take mine for the 1.notmuch BTC I'm expecting next week? Wink
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Re: Instawallet claim process
by
nellybear
on 06/07/2013, 14:55:46 UTC
They have admitted that they said two contradicting things. They said the 1st of July but they also said 90 days and as you can see in your pic the process started 11th April.

Although annoying I know i would be pretty pissed off if i had only found out on the 4th July what had happened at Instawallet and wanted to claim my funds back, only couldn't because it had all been re-distributed.

Personally, I think it was the only thing they could do in the circumstances.

5 days and counting now anyway. Smiley

I took that picture today.  Anyone with funds at Instawallet who didn't come here to find out that info would not have any way of knowing that the information currently on display is wrong!  It's not like they've had nearly three full months to fix that...

Also, not to split hairs, but 2013-04-11 + 90 days is 2013-07-10, not 2013-07-11:

mysql> SELECT (DATE_ADD('2013-04-11', INTERVAL 90 DAY));
+-------------------------------------------+
| (DATE_ADD('2013-04-11', INTERVAL 90 DAY)) |
+-------------------------------------------+
| 2013-07-10                                |
+-------------------------------------------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
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Re: Instawallet claim process
by
nellybear
on 06/07/2013, 12:45:17 UTC
6 days and counting, let's see how this shit shakes up. Smiley

What are we counting down to?  According to the claims screen the date that money will pay out has passed!  Check for yourselves!

http://s17.postimg.org/x5tfn1jmn/Instawallet_Claim.png

What is going on that suddenly there's another x days to wait?
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Re: Was Paymium really hacked? Or are they running a scam? Latter appearing likely.
by
nellybear
on 17/04/2013, 20:24:47 UTC
Does anyone have a copy of the original "term of use" of Instawallet ?

Bump.

I can try to look how a letter should be written but I first need the ToS of the web site justbefore it was closed. In french or in english (or both so that I can check if there are differences).

The ToS is the "contract" between the user and the company running the site so I first need to see if it was a breach of contract (civil lawsuit possible) and/or if it is only a penal (not sure this word exists in english) lawsuit.

I tried looking for a cache, but to no prevail. I'm pretty sure it's going to be similar to what they use on their only sites.

This isn't a proper ToS but AFAIK these were the only terms visible on Instawallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122677.msg1320842#msg1320842
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Re: Instawallet claim process
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nellybear
on 12/04/2013, 19:30:00 UTC
i think i am going to claim the instawallets for my friends and relatives. i even think i can provide the signed messages for most of them.

does anyone think this will be a problem if i claim multiple wallets to my name?

No problem: your friends and relatives trust you ;o)

The problem is on our end if and when we receive multiple claims for the same wallet: we would have to sort things out.
So far so good we are receiving only unique claims.

Hi Boussac,

I'm pleased everything is going to plan and that people have calmed down a little Cheesy

I'm curious what will happen after the 90 days and the claims have been processed, will Instawallet be relaunched with a bit more security added?

Also what will happen to the undoubtedly many BTC that won't be claimed, can I suggest that as a gesture of goodwill it goes to the Bitcoin Foundation or maybe to charities and the Bitcoin community gets to vote on which charities?
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Re: Instawallet Claims - Who can access? / Who gets 404 error?
by
nellybear
on 12/04/2013, 07:22:16 UTC
I just like to add that despite the pressures Boussac and team must be under for what was a free service with an up-front low security warning, they're doing a marvellous job.

I'm pleased that my idea to add a CAPTCHA was included as well as someone else's idea to have the option to cryptographically sign from an address associated with a wallet.

Good work and thanks Smiley
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Re: Instawallet Claims - Who can access? / Who gets 404 error?
by
nellybear
on 12/04/2013, 06:58:33 UTC
Never mind, I managed to put a claim in for that address by using the workaround others have mentioned (go to https://www.instawallet.org/ first and then paste the wallet ID in after).  You really should have it set up so that original wallet URLs work to get to the claim pages - the instructional text on the Instawallet front page is currently misleading.

The workaround doesn't appear to work for my other two wallets by the way, they each get a 404-looking error but different to the one I pasted earlier:

The page you were looking for doesn't exist.

You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved.


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Re: Instawallet Claims - Who can access? / Who gets 404 error?
by
nellybear
on 12/04/2013, 06:48:25 UTC
I personnally tested my urls on the claim form and it worked.
If you are getting a 404 error it could be that your url is made up.
All instawallet urls that have received transactions are in the database.

Hi Boussac,

I get a 404 on all three previously valid Instawallet URLs I have.

I happen to have a screenshot of the one with the most BTC in, dated not long before the incident occurred, so I know for a fact that the wallet URL was valid and had an above-zero balance of 1.2725 BTC.  OK, this might be small beans compared to some other claimants, but it's still my money and I'd like to claim it back.  I can also show that in the blockchain that its public address received funds over a period of time:

http://www.use.com/images/s_2/b619cb1b60a364d3278c_1.jpg?is=true&ps=true&rand=564987143035

http://www.use.com/images/s_2/b619cb1b60a364d3278c_2.jpg?is=true&ps=true&rand=575795160838

http://www.use.com/images/s_2/b619cb1b60a364d3278c_3.jpg?is=true&ps=true&rand=326376916141

See them up close at http://www.use.com/b619cb1b60a364d3278c

How do I claim my money when my wallet addresses all get a 404?

Thanks.
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Re: Instawallet claim process
by
nellybear
on 07/04/2013, 10:24:47 UTC
Actually just thinking about this that still seems wrong. After sending the money out of my wallet i am met with a message saying the bitcoins have been sent and the total in the wallet is 0btc.

This transaction should have been completed. I received coins to the same wallet AFTER this transaction from another wallet. I think there is no doubt as to the fact that I am due these coins.

Hi steelboy, I can't speak for the Instawallet/Paymium/Paytunia people but I was under the impression that they were bundling up transactions rather than send each one onto the network as an individual broadcast, probably to save on fees and have them processed faster overall.  I'm wondering if your transaction in question was queued up to be in a bundle that never occurred as their BTC movements must have switched off partway through some people's transactions.
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Re: Instawallet claim process
by
nellybear
on 07/04/2013, 08:44:14 UTC
It is against the law (at least in the US, not sure about European countries) to display favoritism to one creditor vs another when you know the company is insolvent.

I doubt this would apply even if the law holds where Instawallet is based.  The money in the accounts wasn't being "borrowed" by Instawallet, so depositors aren't strictly creditors any more than if I left a dog at a boarding kennel while I go on vacation that I'm a creditor to the kennel.
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Re: I was wondering, could the decimal place be moved?
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nellybear
on 06/04/2013, 20:45:53 UTC
There already is a naming scheme, it's just based on the same naming scheme as the metric system (which the whole English-speaking world uses, except the United States for some reason.)
Not only the English-speaking world. The entire world uses it, even the US is using it for everything that can not be directly measured in ancient pounds or beer barrels or barn doors.

LOL!  That reminded me of this:

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5911183_700b.jpg

And this:

http://www.damnlol.com/i/25b59b9c70adf8d7b509384ccd32a64b.jpg
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Re: Instawallet claim process
by
nellybear
on 06/04/2013, 20:36:46 UTC
If several claims have been filed for the same url, we will process those claims on a case by case basis, under the presumption that the claim we received first belongs to the legitimate balance holder.

Can I please request that a very tough CAPTCHA is included on the claim form, so that the legitimate owners at least have a small chance to get their claims in first before the original attacker?

I can imagine the attacker is crafting the beginnings of a script right now to automate their illegitimate claims.
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Re: Unlikely Bitcoin price will ever surpass $5,000
by
nellybear
on 08/03/2013, 11:39:05 UTC
pictures of children that you know will die in the future are also sad.

Pictures of people who don't have children, but might do one day, and those currently non-existent children will be dead one day, that's the saddest.