Well... where do we go from here? I'm seeing a lot of signatures of the OGs who I kind of look up to change to EXCH.ch... and I say this respectfully, but really? I see they've been around for 10 years but didn't we just talk about how there's some responsibility on us to vet what we promote? I know we're all looking for the reputable place to go right now, I mean that's how a lot of us got here after Chipmixer, and isn't it dangerous to be promoting EXCH.ch when they are just so underutilized? I'm open to being convinced otherwise — anyone who knows me knows I'm openminded and all, I guess I'm just at a loss right now on where we go from here. I was super excited about Whirlwind.

most of them are fake links, but not all of them. Most of them end in the .top domain, although the Whirlwind and Mixero links seem to be legit. I don't get the vibe that Whirlwind paid for that press release though. It really seems more like a press release promoting the mixer blog site that sponsored the post.

This whole thing really doesn't smell like a scam. If Whirlwind was making 1 - 3% profit on each transaction, did they profit more than what they gave up in the DAI escrow?

I noticed the similarities to Tornado Cash too in terms of web design, but I just took that as they sort of copied Tornado Cash's design because they looked up to it. Their specialties were in the backend programming stuff for sure, and it seemed that they didn't have anyone rocking and rolling on the web and graphic design stuff, so if that's the case, it's easy and smart to just match the site design to a well known mixer. No need to reinvent the wheel, at least not when they were first starting out. I think if there was any actual relation between Whirlwind and the Tornado Cash team, we would have seen things pan out a little differently and more successfully.

It seems like this was the last contact. Hhampuz, can we get anymore details? What exactly did they say to "assure that nothing was lost" because it sure seems like our Bitcoin is lost.

As the site grows, I'd expect Google to get even "smarter" and no longer correct "talkimg" to "talking." Maybe we're a far way off from that, but we'll get there eventually 

I don't think their absence is because they're grinding in and focusing on some new feature, I think it's quite possible that they feel they've grown to the point where they feel that they just don't need to interact with Bitcointalk anymore. If the site is profitable and paying for itself consistently, and if they're seeing user metrics growing even though they haven't been here on Bitcointalk, it could be possible that simply word of mouth is what will drive them from here on out. It's like if they build truly the best mixer in terms of function and features, it should spread on its own without their need to interact here with us. I mean, it feels a bit like a slap in the face if that's the case, but I would get it and understand it if that was the mentality they were taking. The best, most sustainable mixer should stand on its own without the team having to get into fine details and arguments on forums. I personally do not feel like Whirlwind is at that point yet where they can drop the community on Bitcointalk and expect to grow, but maybe they do.

As long as it's stated clearly enough for any curious user to see, I personally think there's value in having some mixers that "clean" coins while having others that don't. It should be up to the user to choose — sure it's probably 100% best for privacy if the mixer is well known and doesn't "clean" coins, but there are certainly situations where the user 100% needs to not receive his own coins back.

I think we can all agree that it doesn't matter where a Bitcoin was before it was in your wallet, but your employer or government certainly might not understand that yet, and it's unfortunate, but sometimes you have to play in the bounds of the rules in which you live. As long as it's made clear, I think there's no huge need to change that feature of Thormixer.

I mean, isn't the answer just that some plurality of the signers have the ability to kick out and override some minority portion of the signers? I guess it would be good for the system to publish rules though about what exactly should trigger this sort of vote, like if a signer is inactive for X time period, the vote is automatically triggered. Or, it always could just be something more whimsical like whenever a supermajority feels like it, they can do it.

This is the right category for this thread. The site looks great, it's great to see it full of articles and stories you all have written over the past few months. That shows some commitment, all too often, people post a news site or blog just a couple days after starting it, and it always fizzles out.

The articles themselves are insanely detailed, keep that up and this will definitely start getting organic traffic if it hasn't already.

Perhaps there could and should be a way to pay for an expedited, extra-attention support answer? It could have all the disclaimers necessary like "paying this doesn't guarantee that support will be able to successfully help you," but it'd certainly give some peace of mind to people if they know that if they have to, they can pay for an answer in just a few hours. Probably would help ramp up business a lot even.

Seems like it's up in some places and down in others. You can always check a site on https://www.whatsmydns.net, it's pretty useful and much better than https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com, which most people use. Hop on a VPN if it's down for you in one area and you might be able to get through right now.

Your mixing code sort of like a receipt given after you mix your coins. If this is your first time, you don't need to put anything there. Later on if you mix a second time, if you want to totally ensure that you will not receive your old coins, you can enter your mixing code "receipt," and Yomix won't give you any of your original coins from your first time mixing.


The lowest service fee right now is .7%, although this may change. You can always check it on the slider right there on your mixing form.

@joker_josue You need to set TalkImg.com as your avatar and signature! Seems crazy to not use those spaces and your reputation to promote TalkImg all around the forum.

Is everything still active? It seems that development and communication stopped pretty abruptly, although the site is online of course. I wanted to add a lot more to start getting good dividends going from anonymity mining, but it's a scary thing to deposit coins and entrust them with the site when things have just gone weirdly quiet.

Aside from all the mixer discussion, what's up with the ability to "stake" Bitcoin for 22% yearly returns? How does that work? Seems beyond what's sustainable, and calling it "staking" is disingenuous because it's definitely not staking rewards.

Haha well I think it's a given now - do NOT take the risk of operating an exchange for US users right now. As far as I've seen, it's only the SEC that seems to seriously have a problem with exchanges, I mean you don't see other countries suing exchanges left and right like the SEC.

Quite beautiful web design, so good job on that. I wish more altcoin communities would set up and run their own exchange - an exchange focused on simply that coin itself. The project could figure out a way to disburse dividends to the coin holders, or the team could simply use it to fund their development. I know there are becoming more and more scripts for sale for launching an exchange, so it might be worth it to tailor and brand an exchange script for that specific purpose. It'd be neat to see for sure.

My personal thesis is that most abrupt trend changes come from more social factors (i.e. not because the numerical trendline crossed the projected SMA line or whatever), and as a result, it is very difficult to predict future trends and price data from a purely quantitative viewpoint. I think the formula that will truly make it will be the one that can incorporate social "data" into the mix, which is very difficult to do, but I'd argue not totally impossible. Probably would be rather elementary (in relative terms) using today's capabilities, but you have to build for the future - what is going to exist in 10 years is different from today. Whoever makes a formula or calculation that can somehow quantify and build upon social data, which really should be somewhat possible using todays technology, is on the right path to creating something that will change the world of price prediction calculations.

Would you be willing to post a rough range for what you'd be willing to pay for salary or elaborate a little more on that if it's based on commissions as most MLM systems are?

The site design looks terrific! Thoughts on the revenue sharing to the owners of CIL tokens making CIL considered a security in the US though? Do you plan to prohibit US users from accessing Cilistia? I suppose you can't really do that while also respecting the promise of user privacy. Perhaps Cilistia is registered and established somewhere outside of the domain of the US so it's pretty much out of the regulator's reach?