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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 06/02/2011, 22:08:20 UTC
I have no intentions of ever working at McDonald's, nor will I be happy there. So I'm not going to work for minimum wage. "OH it's a paycheck!" Great, so I'll have JUST enough to pay for rent and food, and be forced to be stuck at that fucking job. Then when I lose it, I'll be back on the streets. That's no way to start a life. Especially, when you have no one and nothing to fall back on. If this works out, and I make my millions! Everyone who did help me, is going to vegas with me. Skeptics need not apply.

I can't not read this thread. Probably the best laugh on the forums.

Millions of people work at minimum wage jobs. Millions of them work themselves up from there. Your story continues to be full of lies.

I'm sure you put on a good show for the person you met on the forums. And no one that sends you a penny is going to vegas. But a nice strategy for trying to get a few more donations.

I'm glad no one sent you bitcoins on the last address you posted. Shows you how pretty much everyone here is smarter than your BS.
Lol.. The Vegas comment was a joke, and I really hope that no one thinks this is a Vegas lottery. The fact that you think everyone is a moron bothers me. I've said probably 25 times now, that almost no one has given me anything. This isn't a "scam," nor do I think it could be even defined as one. I'm not offering anything other than coding, and no one seems to need my work. I asked for help, that's about it, and I'm so fucking sick of everyone acting like they know everything.

I don't fucking lie, and fuck you for assuming I do. You're a piece of shit, simple as that. You're the type of person that steps over homeless people telling them to "get a job." One third of our homeless are veterans, and I'm sure you still treat them with utter disrespect. A large portion of our homeless are mentally ill with no family, but still you're the type of person who'd tell them that they need to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps." Even though they've done more for AMERICA than you would ever be willing to. Truth is, you're too much of a pussy to ever defend our country, and I'm sure you spit on AMERICA'S veterans just because they are now homeless. I'm sick of tip-toeing around the tulips with assholes like you. I don't FUCKING CARE if you believe me or not. I've posted that I DON'T FUCKING CARE almost 35 times now, but no your dumbass can't read a god damn thing that's been posted. You assume no one else thinks I'm lying? You assume that no one else has posted accusations of me being a liar/scammer/thief? Maybe you just think your opinion is better than everyone elses, that you're the most intelligent man here, and you must save everyone else?

Even if we do get funding, there's only a few people I plan on helping out, you really think that my "big plan" is to offer everyone a vegas trip? God man, you're fucking retarded.

I live a life that you cannot fathom, I live a life that is unreal to your privileged sheltered ass. The reason I assume you're privileged is because of two things: your assumption of superiority, and your complete lack of the concept of hunger. Not necessarily physical hunger, but the hunger of poverty, the hunger of never having what you need. Driving a broke down car, to a lousy job where they treat you no better than machine cog (replaceable, unimportant, and insignificant), and you arrive home to a house full of condiments and no food, snacking on mustard or mayo, laying down in a bed with springs that stab you. Knowing that the only way out is death or pain. You've never had a hard time in your fucking life.

By the way, this post is pretty much dead to me, I come back now and again to check in on the advice that's been posted, and see if anyone else has some ideas on what to do, maybe transcribe the last few days.

By the way, how many people do you personally know that have gone from being homeless, gotten a minimum wage job, and actually succeeded in life? Not just scraping by living paycheck to paycheck, payday loan to credit card payment? Have you seen "The pursuit of Happyness?" The reason he made something of himself was because he wasn't just going for a bullshit minimum wage job. He was going for a livable wage as a stock-broker.

"Millions of people work at minimum wage jobs. Millions of them work themselves up from there. Your story continues to be full of lies."
Yes, our nation is at a 9% unemployment rate, cost of labor is going down, and therefore living/working conditions. It's an employers market, they can hire whoever they want, and pay them whatever. They deprive them of overtime pay, and fire them for coming in late on a day they weren't scheduled to work anyway. Where's these "millions of people?" I personally know about 40 people who were working MULTIPLE minimum wage jobs, averaging to about 45-50 hours a week, and still had their banks foreclose on them. A close friend of mine AND his wife both just graduated college, neither of them were able to find work, and so they were forced to move in with their parents. Luckily his parents are lawyers and have a decent savings amassed. They were able to buy him a condo, and he was able to get a job at Cricket for 7.50/hr. He's still unable to afford his rent and food on his own. Do the math, everytime you goto a fast food restaurant, or any other place with all minimum wage employees, ask how many of them are living with their parents/aunts/uncles. Ask how many of them are able to afford rent on their own. It's about 5%.

Give me one single person who is "working their way up" from a bullshit minimum wage job? And I specify JOB, not someone who's working 80+ hours a week with two employers just to keep their head above water. If you're going to accuse me of lying, give me some proof. Everything I've said I am completely capable of backing up with documents, sources, and even third parties. If you don't want to help me, fine. If you think I'm lying, fine. But don't fucking accuse me of shit you have NO IDEA about. Don't present shit as fact if you have nothing but your own personal speculation.

Besides, when's the last time I asked for help? Over a fucking month ago... I like how I keep posting updates on my life, because some people actually are curious.. and I get dipshit assholes like you calling me a scam artist.

"I can't read this thread, but I fully intend on making wild accusations when I haven't read more than one page. I barely skimmed through the facts you've presented, but I'll gladly announce that you're a liar when I have strong evidence to prove the opposite. Just because anyone who asks for help with a hotel a month and a half ago must be robbing people blind!"

I swear to god the next person who accuses me of something with NO PROOF, I want you to come out to denver, and say that shit to my face. If you have the apparent courage to be the protector of all those you consider less intelligent than you, you should have the courage to call me a liar to my face.

Now, let's all notice that I'M NOT ASKING FOR FUCKING MONEY. And I haven't for quite some time. The last thing I said is "if you could help me (with advice or even a kind word) I would greatly appreciate it, but if NOT THEN NO BIG DEAL."

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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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pull
on 06/02/2011, 05:54:08 UTC
I think this boss is giving you a really bad deal. He's just using you as free labor at a long shot.

You should demand payment of some kind to compensate for your time, even if that is 10 dollars a day. Your boss can at least pay you that much, right?

Your objective is really that you should get ANYTHING in your pocket. 1 cents on the ground, 10 bucks for a one day job, whatever. Then you should figure out how to conserve these money for the future.

Unless you get warm blankets, shelter, or something....don't work for free. (Well, unless you like the arrangement of working for free...)
I have a deferred compensation contract in place, btw. I'm not tacky enough to say how much.

You're delusional if you think you'll go from bankrupt to millions.

Delusions are all I have left, some people call it "hope." I can't seem to get an ounce of help from anyone, so might as well gamble. I have no intentions of ever working at McDonald's, nor will I be happy there. So I'm not going to work for minimum wage. "OH it's a paycheck!" Great, so I'll have JUST enough to pay for rent and food, and be forced to be stuck at that fucking job. Then when I lose it, I'll be back on the streets. That's no way to start a life. Especially, when you have no one and nothing to fall back on. If this works out, and I make my millions! Everyone who did help me, is going to vegas with me. Skeptics need not apply.

ON THE COVER OF THE ROLLIN' STONE!
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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pull
on 05/02/2011, 00:54:18 UTC
He responds to many of the posts on here, but seems to ignore some of those that offer good, practical advice.   

Here's one thing I would recommend for anyone who is homeless in Colorado in February: get to Arizona or California, someplace where you can sleep outside and not freeze to death.  I've heard Santa Monica is very tolerant of homelessness, the view is spectacular, and the temperature is moderate.

Anybody got any hitchhiking advice for the US Southwest?
The majority of the practical advice ends up in my PM's. I don't really have any intention of asking banks if I can crash at their unsold properties.. I don't plan on squatting, and I've got some intentions of trying a few of the bitcoin incomes i've heard.

I do have the coding gig that I've mentioned several times, but I am putting all my eggs in that basket. We goto LA in 2 weeks to meet with investors, and if we get funded, I'll no longer be living this life. If not though, I have no backup plans. I'm putting my heart into this project, as it will net millions..

Library closes in 3 minutes, take care guys.
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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pull
on 02/02/2011, 20:52:21 UTC
This is why I suggest you all panhandle for 2 hours.. See how people treat you, and maybe you'll treat someone else with a little more respect next time.

I would expect nothing more than disrespect, begging for money with no productive work in exchange. You're capable of valuable work. I can tell just by that post. There is no reason why you can't sustain yourself.
Indeed, but for some reason my craiglist posts tender nothing. The only thing I got was that fake cashier's check. I've had alot of replies for web design work, but when I reply, no one gets back to me. I don't know exactly where to advertise my resume in the non-digital world. You're correct, I am sustaining myself, but that's not enough. I need more than just to survive.

Why would you expect nothing other than disrespect? That's what bothers me, what are you supposed to do when you are genuinely hungry or perhaps someone stole your shoes (I've had it happen)? If you have no one that can help you to begin with, where do you turn? Should you spend hours on end trying to track down some charitable organization that might be able to get you some sneakers? Doesn't it seem more prudent to stand outside a foot-locker barefoot and ask a fellow human being if he'd mind buying you the cheapest pair of shoes so you don't destroy your feet?

And why is it assumed that you should be disrespected for such an act? To me it seems like the most logical and quickest way to fulfill your needs. When another human being is genuinely in need, why is disrespect an assumed and apparently reasonable response? Unemployment is still 10%, and in Colorado unemployment rose 1.5% from Dec 2009 to Dec 2010. Which shows that jobs are harder to get, and apparently getting harder to maintain.

This means that one out of every 10 people, can't afford their own way. I know the majority of them rely on family to help sustain until they rebound.
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``At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge,'' said the gentleman, taking up a pen, ``it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.''

``Are there no prisons?'' asked Scrooge.

``Plenty of prisons,'' said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

``And the Union workhouses?'' demanded Scrooge. ``Are they still in operation?''

``They are. Still,'' returned the gentleman, `` I wish I could say they were not.''

``The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?'' said Scrooge.

``Both very busy, sir.''

``Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,'' said Scrooge. ``I'm very glad to hear it.''

``Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,'' returned the gentleman, ``a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?''

``Nothing!'' Scrooge replied.

``You wish to be anonymous?''

``I wish to be left alone,'' said Scrooge. ``Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned: they cost enough: and those who are badly off must go there.''

``Many can't go there; and many would rather die.''

``If they would rather die,'' said Scrooge, ``they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

Have we all forgotten the lessons we were taught as children? Or perhaps it was only meant to be superficial. Those of us who weeped at the death of Tiny Tim, quickly grew hardened of heart and abandoned the ideas of charity and lending a helping hand to another.

I find it personally disgusting that I have to sit here and defend the concept of charity. That almost all of you have the nerve to suggest that everyone need make their own way without assistance, and those who can't (regardless of the reason why they can't) need not waste the air you breathe. Most of you seem to expect that there's some other entity that has the duty to help people, but churches have limited funding, and social security is withering away to nothing. Work programs don't exist for individuals, and if they were to be subsidized there would be a mass-protest chastising Obama for his "nazi-like socialist reforms." So how do we win as a society? With this attitude, I feel we don't. Everyone complains about illegal immigration as an issue due to the fact that "jobs are being taken." And as a country we have enough clandestine problems we need to resolve before we take care of foreign citizens, but how are we taking care of our own citizens? 10% unemployment.. with no work programs an minimal financial assistance.

Yet it's assumed that you should be disrespected when you ask for help.. It doesn't logically add up. Yet, I am the target of aggression and angst. I am apparently everything that's wrong with this world. The homeless, the "beggar," the poverty stricken, the man who asks for help.... I am the evil one because I ask for help, but those who insist the poor need not anything from anyone, and must accept the soup kitchens and shelters as a way of life, and accept no other assistance. These are the socially acceptable ones, and I'm the bad guy. If it helps you sleep at night knowing that there's a terrible HOMELESS BEGGAR in your midst, as opposed the man who steps over a homeless vet (who fought for our freedom when you were a child) and tells him to get a job..
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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pull
on 01/02/2011, 01:20:45 UTC
I suggest you try to earn bitcoins from bitcoiner in the mean time. If you help the economy out, we fork over some bitcoin. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement. However, turning them into dollars would be a difficult thing. So, if there are any local bitcoiners...maybe you could ask them to buy your bitcoin and give you dollars.

Don't ask me for jobs though, I am very hard to convince to pry bitcoin over.
My wallet.dat file is on my friends laptop, and he moved to california. So if anyone did send me bitcoins, they're lost until I manage to talk him into finding the file and sending it to me, but he's extraordinarily lazy. I just installed it again.. YOUR BITCOIN ADDRESS: 1HDB2X83qCxePRhgocbKVpxZW9RPzADrMz

Everyone keeps telling me that bitcoins are still essentially worthless though? As far as an alternative to cash at this stage.

Is there anyway to merge my address books and wallet.dat files?
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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pull
on 01/02/2011, 00:27:02 UTC
I don't assume anything about anyone's background, unless they give me reason to think so, and my statement was entirely generalized. Not just for this community. I honestly do wonder how many people have woken up purely because of cold, having too low of an internal temperature. It's something I'd never experienced before. That piss covered blanket was apparently 80$, and he insists I bring it back to him.

Where exactly am I supposed to store all this cookware? I don't have a "camp," and I don't want to disrespect my friends car by turning it into a hobo palace. I have a backpack that fits a few articles of clothing, and now my laptop, and that's heavy enough as-is. I try to eat healthy, believe it or not. Living off grain-based products is hardly nutritional. I don't know if it's just you trying to be helpful, or if it's back to the homeless stereotype. As I've said, it seems as though if you're homeless the "beggars can't be choosers" cliche turns to the only socially-acceptable way to live. You MUST live off ramen, you MUST stay at the shelter, otherwise everyone treats you as-if you're willfully greedy, or just disrespectful.

One thing I don't get, is what's with all the hostility towards me? Did I do anyone here any wrong? I stated my predicament, and everyone has taken it upon themselves to insult me, call me a liar, and insist I must live their suggested way. Have I forced my opinions on anyone else here? Have I done anything to hurt anyone here?

It's this kind of attitude that makes me question the humanity of people. I came here out of a suggestion from a friend. He told me it might be a decent place to ask for help. Granted, I've met some very wonderful people here, people who still have an ounce of trust left in them, but unfortunately the ratio is tilted far in the favor of the skeptics. Perhaps it's prudent to stay skeptical, perhaps you should still question if you feel the need, but why attack me? I don't know if you've ever dealt with a con-artist, but they tend to follow the pattern of "smash-and-grab." They get what they want, and then bail.

I just want to know what I've done so wrong to deserve to be treated like scum? This is the predicament of all homeless, you're considered scum. You're lazy, you're deceitful, you're probably an alcoholic. You don't deserve anything from anyone, and anyone who helps you must be naive. This is why I suggest you all panhandle for 2 hours.. See how people treat you, and maybe you'll treat someone else with a little more respect next time. I don't care if it's me you treat better or not. I can sympathize with anyone struggling, and when I have a few extra bucks, and someone asks me for change. I'll give them all I can afford to part with, even though I'm in the same situation.

Once again I ask, what did I do to those who feel the need to threaten and insult me? Is it simply distrust? Or do you generally despise the homeless? Perhaps you see those who ask for help as weak, and like the schoolyard playground, they must be weeded out by ridicule and threats of violence. Maybe it's a past memory of pain inflicted by trusting the untrustworthy? Whatever it is, it's probably poorly founded, as I believe that all humans are truly decent people. Even the murderer has family who loves him, and I don't believe anyone could love someone they know well who is truly 100% evil.
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 31/01/2011, 09:12:32 UTC
I'm here to get a few kind words, have a place to vent, and to transcribe my day-to-day struggle.

That's all I wanted out of you. An admission that you're back on your feet, and you're just here to talk about your day to day life. You lie again, I'll kick your teeth in. You have shelter, you have food, you have government checks. Try to climb your way up the ladder to a decent job so you can pull yourself out of a bad spot. Your endless "bad coincidences" are impossible. That's why I let this thread go on this long before I laid you out. A lot of these guys come from wealthy communities and never encountered beggars or con artists before, which is why this thread went on so long. As long as the community understands that you're just here to talk about your life and for the attention, and you're not here for "food money", it's OK.

I also have a unicorn that shits butterflies and rainbows. What admission? I'm not on my feet, I'm sleeping the back of a Durango, and as I said, there are NO work programs for single males in Colorado. In fact I think the only government checks are SSDI, SS survivors' benefits, TANF, and SSI. I don't get government checks, I get 175$ a month in food stamps, and without a kitchen it's very hard to make that last more than 2 weeks, those don't get refilled until the 5th of Feb either, so I've got a little bit until I get them again.

I do have some potential income in about a month. I'm working on a website for local businesses here in Aurora. Unfortunately, it's 3-4 weeks before my boss meets with his investors in LA, and until then there's simply no money. He was able to lend me a Gateway Solo 1450 laptop, so I can work wherever I'm at, but that's really the only thing I have going for me right now. If he can't get any investors on board, I'm back to square 0 again.

I'm glad you're here to protect the naive rich people, but I assure you, they're a hell of alot smarter than you give them credit for. Everyone has encountered a "beggar," and you really shouldn't act like you're the most intelligent person in the world. Superman for the "wealthy communities" as it were. Rich people are very good at protecting their money, that's why they're rich. You seem to think I'm making a shit ton of money here, and I'd like everyone who HASN'T given me money to clearly state it, so you can realize that only a very small amount of people from here have helped me with anything, I think a total of 4 over about a months time. I am VERY grateful for those who have, I was able to get a hotel for a night, which is really nice. Being able to shower, watch TV, and sleep in your own bed at least until morning is a luxury most take for granted. I actually really need deodorant come to think of it, next time I get some extra cash I'll grab some.

I'd honestly prefer if there was anyone around the Denver/Aurora area who could, instead of money, help me out with a few things: hygiene items, some clothes, a backpack, and a couple blankets. I suppose I could ask you guys to mail them to me, but I'd be afraid that Joe would poison me if I were to announce a friend's mailing address.


 I met with a man named Eric from this forum a few weeks back, and he bought me a 50$ gift cert. to McDonald's. That was amazingly kind. It's really draining to have to beg for food everytime you need to eat.

If you're making up fairy-tales for me, why couldn't you have done better than government checks? Why couldn't I be a MILLIONAIRE!

As I said, I DON'T CARE if you believe me or not. These "coincidences" as you call them are far too real for me to even make up. Why would I bother making up a shitload of bullshit facts? You can believe what you choose to believe, as I'm sure you will.

I'm here for as much help as anyone is willing to offer, hence "I have nowhere else to turn." And for the most part it's been advice and kind words. I've had alot of people offering to keep me in their prayers, and even though I'm not christian, it means alot to me. I'm glad there are caring considerate people out there. People who can see past their own existence and take some time out of their day to wish well for a stranger.

Yes, Joe, those pictures of my family are fake too! YOU GOT ME! Would you like some forged court documents too? Perhaps I should hack the Adam's county jail website and add a fake entry for my ex who got arrested for prostitution. Or why bother, truth is always stranger than fiction.

I have no problem with you calling me a liar, but next time, please have a shred of evidence. Hollow accusations and attempted martyrdom may seem like a valiant and sincere enough front, but we live in a scientific age, dependent upon proof and research, and you have not done yours.

I invented the internet, and I discovered gravity. Neil Armstrong actually yanked the microphone out of my hand, my speech was way better, but the space termites ate it.

Now, back to the journal idea... Here's what I have so far..

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It's 4am, at least I think. I awake to the frozen breath of the night. I'm shaking, shivering. Can't stop shivering. I thought this blanket would be enough, I miscalculated. I contemplate where to find cardboard, but my teeth rattling stop my thoughts dead in their tracks. I'll just curl up, that'll work.

I think about my girls. My daughter, my wife. At least she's taken care of. I worry about Ali. She hurt me, but I love her too much. She's warm and safe in jail at least. I'm tired, but cold. I pray for the sun. I pray for warmth. I manage to fold the blanket a few times to put distance between me and the stone beneath me. This blanket reeks of piss. Cat piss. He warned me, but it's better than nothing at all. Each breath I take feels like ethanol in my lungs. That pungent spray that can only come from a testicle bearing feline. I pull my lighter from my pocket, and I thank the universe for combustion. If I keep it lit for a little while it'll warm me up. I always worry the synthetic fibers will smolder like burning plastic, a sort of home-made napalm clinging to everything it touches. I take deep breaths so slow the panting. I manage to stop my jaw from shaking. Deep breaths in a piss soaked blanket.

"I wanna be a fireman when I grow up!" Well, kid, chances are your dreams will fail you, and the reality that is life will destroy what you call hope. I call it wilfull deceit. "I wanna huff cat piss when I grow up!" How did I get here? It all seems like it happened so fast. I wish I had some elaborate sob story about how I had it all. Truth is, I never did. Just like the rest of this habitat, I was just balancing my debt right. My house of cards held long enough, but the biting winter winds blew it over, as my cards circled in a tornado's pattern. The only one left, the joker.

I awake to the sunlight reflecting off the blue industrial trash compactor. It's fenced off so I assumed it'd shelter me from the wind and prying eyes. I stuff the blanket under it, and my DVD's, I've scratched them enough already. I'll come back for them later. I make my way to the gas station, gotta try and find Mike. Wow, is that Lloyd? Hah! We were in jail together, he's fucking crazy, felony eluding. I guess his plan to brand himself crazy and unmedicated worked. I tell him about Ali, he asks if "I fucked it up again." Did I? Was this my fault? Probably. I borrow two bucks and head towards the bus stop, another day.

I wonder, how much of this could I have prevented? How many lives have I now destroyed? The naivity of youth fades quickly. Soon you realize how much you actually impact others. I hope Lily doesn't hate me. I'll bet she thinks I abandoned her. Maybe I did. Maybe I could have stopped this. I'll get you back Lily. I promise.

Ali's bail is 625$. Three charges, three counties. She'll be in there for a while. Two of them total 125$. Maybe I can post those two, and she can resolve the third.. She's a good girlfriend, while she's yours. Too bad it's like handling a fish. Lose your grip and she's gone, back into the merky water. You know not where she's headed. I know I love her, I've never been content with one woman. Always restless, needing more. All I want is more of her. She's dirty and grimey. She appears innocent, but she's anything but. Four foot eight, 115 pounds. Tiny little thing. I love having a tiny woman. My last girl was about 175. There's nothing like fucking a tiny little thing. Pounding her doggy-style, and with one well-executed maneuver, she's on her back. Throw her legs into the headboard and keep it going. Never losing penetration.

She's a sex goddess. Eager to try anything at any time, and that innocent smile when she's looks up while holding my cock. "Do you like that baby?" I love everything you do to me. The firsts she's given me would surpass this text in length. And I suppose that's love, how many firsts you're willing to give eachother: First kiss, first fuck, first child, first true love. I gotta get her out.

I make my way to Colfax and Mississipi. My hunger pains me. I eat when I can, or rather when panhandling doesn't make me sick to my stomach. Freddy's is open, I'll get someone to buy me a burger. Ketchup and Mayo, nothing better on well-prepared beef.

It may be a little graphic for some, but I like the bukowski style.
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 31/01/2011, 02:34:32 UTC
I'm gonna step in front of a fucking bus... I'm back to sleeping in the back of my friends car.. I don't know what to do anymore. Every single time I take one step forward a mac truck slams me 4 miles back.

Con artist. I see these lies every day. Can an admin please get this guy off the forum? Tired of this thread keeps popping up and people keep feeding him with money and pity he doesn't deserve.

See, what saddens me is that this IS my life, and I have people like you who assume the world is full of evil selfish people. If you really think I'm a "con-artist," talk to Eric. I actually met up with him a few weeks back here in Denver. He knows I'm for real, and I had never met him before in my life. I don't care if you don't believe me. Only two people from this forum have helped me out at all, and one was Eric. He got me a 50$ McDonald's gift card.

"Pity he doesn't deserve"? I don't want pity, but sometimes it's nice to have someone to talk to. I've put my entire life out here on the line, for everyone to read.. and you come along and assume you know everything about everything. You don't even insinuate that you're making an assumption. You're right, completely right, 100%, and you instantly believe that everyone else should be as untrusting and as bitter as you. After that post I made last night, I wandered over to a friends house to see if I could stay there just for the night. If I can't get together money for a hotel (I have 0$ income from this forum, and as I previously stated, I panhandle 99.9% of the time to get food/shelter/blankets) I leave enough time to get back to Longmont so I can sleep in my friends car. Well, my supposed friend went to boulder to pick up some money for a hotel, and told me to wait for him here in Aurora. I spent 7 hours waiting at the bus stop and he never came. I wasn't able to get back to longmont as the buses stopped running for the night. So I went to a different friends house to see if I could stay there, which unfortunately caused an argument between him and his girlfriend.

I asked him for a blanket and he grabbed one out of the closet, which looked to me to be lining the floor beneath the litter boxes. "Hey man, it may smell like cat piss, but it's better than nothing right?" Ugh.. I suppose so. I walked as far as I could and found a fenced off trash compactor thing.. Like one of those dumpster trash compactors. I laid down my piss covered blanket, and got a few hours rest before I woke up shivering. I think that's a feeling that most people don't really know. To wake up chilled to the bone.. It's a terrible feeling, and it usually takes an hour or two to stop shivering. When it happens, you're pretty much screwed, because it means whatever you're using for warmth obviously isn't good enough. You're too cold to try to go somewhere to find better shelter or another blanket/cardboard. Not to mention it's usually 2-4am when it gets cold enough to wake you up.

If you think I'm here to milk the bitcoin community, you're sorely mistaken. I think you have some sort of idea that people are throwing me hundreds of dollars on a weekly basis, nowhere near the case. The reason I keep coming back to this forum, and no others, is because this is truly a community. I've had A LOT of helpful advice, and plenty of kind words from people who don't even know me. As I said as well, I'm always up to meet people in person and share my story/answer questions.

Why did you choose to quote my "Step in front of a bus" line? I suppose to you it seems similar to one of the supposedly suicidal girlfriends you once had. Some sort of empty line meant for attention, and maybe it is partially an expression of angst. I've been on the streets for almost two years now, and it's beating the shit out of me. I'm 21.... 21... and I really have nothing. The only friends I have, I can't count on them to be where they say they're gonna be, let alone something beneficial.

I'm an honest man, and I despise liars. I understand where your mistrust comes from. It's a dog-eat-dog world, where everyone's trying to cut eachother's throats just to get ahead. I won't steal from anyone, and the only lying I do is sometimes I'll tell people I need food when really I'm trying to get a hotel. I don't get why shelter is a much lesser necessity. Also, I don't understand why if you're homeless you're automatically supposed to BE homeless. You HAVE to stay at the shelter, and frequent soup kitchens. I've been told I act like I'm too good for shelters, and it's partially right. Shelter's are disgusting places, even if the facility is nice. The Boulder shelter has a fantastic facility, but as with everything in this world, humans destroy it. It's difficult to sleep in a dorm-room setting with 130 other people, at least 20 of which are shitfaced drunk talking extraordinarily loud. The others are coughing and hacking all night, audibly spitting on the floor. Lights turn on at 5:30am, and you have to leave by 7am. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I don't see how a shelter will benefit me. No one there has any respect for anyone else.. I won't shower there. Last time a tried someone had shit on the floor. If you're homeless you're expected to fall into the homeless life, or rather the socially acceptable constructed homeless life. The few people I personally know who live that life have no aspirations.. they spend their lives between jail, detox, and the shelter... and I believe such is the way the shelter is constructed.

Once you start LIVING there, and calling it home. At least half of your worries are taken care of. You have a place to sleep, shower, and eat. What bothers me though, is that you do nothing to earn your own way. You can live at the shelter without contributing a damn thing to anything or anyone. You don't have to work, and you can fall into a routine very similar to a jail lifestyle.. Get there, eat, watch TV, goto sleep, wake up, eat, watch TV, leave, rinse and repeat....

To be happy, I need to earn my own way. I know most of you will say panhandling isn't work. It's lazy, and pathetic. I will agree that it's pathetic, often times a simple harsh word will make me cry, not because I'm weak (I don't consider myself to be), but you're really putting yourself out there. You're entirely at the mercy of the person you're talking to. People, not dissimilar from you, can be vicious, vile, and completely unsympathetic. They'll judge you within 5 seconds, and determine that you don't even deserve their time, let alone a bit of food. I never "fly a sign" as I do consider that lazy, and entirely more deceptive. Anytime you see someone flying a sign that says "I'm hungry" or "Will work for food" I can almost 100% assure you that it's for cigarettes or alcohol. If one really wants food, you can just go outside a restaurant and ask for leftovers, it usually only takes about 10-15 minutes max.
If anyone here thinks that panhandling is easy, I dare you to try it for one hour. Go out and put yourself on the line, ask for help. You'll find that people will step on your heart and cut off your balls so-to-speak.

If you'd have read all of my posts, you'd have a pretty sure idea that I'm not lying. If you want evidence as to anything you think I'm lying about, I assure you I can produce it. I don't think I'll waste my time doing so though, because I really don't care what you think. I'm not here to prove something, as I don't need to. I'm here to get a few kind words, have a place to vent, and to transcribe my day-to-day struggle. If it doesn't interest you, and you're completely unsympathetic, then don't bother reading it. No one asked you to anyway.

I don't know, is anyone here actually interested in this lifestyle? The struggles of a distraught economy? The alleged "bottom of the barrel"? I was thinking about writing about the past few years in a more biography style. I just wanna know if it'd be worth my time, if anyone would be interested to read it?

I'd like to know if anyone would be interested in reading a autobiography. Please respond with yes/no.
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on 30/01/2011, 03:32:13 UTC
Hey if of something helps, not all people is like that. Why didn't you hold the equipment until the payment was done? :/ I am sure each is worth at least 200.

So, do you have a job yet? How is telemarketing going?


There are no laptops, it's all bullshit. No, no telemarketing yet. I'm waiting for someone to come along and extend their home to me for a few weeks. It doesn't seem like much to ask, but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen.

I'm 30$ short for my hotel tonight, and I had a security guard threaten to put me in handcuffs for panhandling.. Back to the streets I go. I'll be scraping the gutters of colfax if you need me.
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on 29/01/2011, 02:19:44 UTC
OMFG, I FUCKING HATE PEOPLE.... So I posted some will code shit on craigslist, explaining my situation, and a resume kinda.. And I get this email from this chick who apparently needs 11 laptops reformatted..

"Hello,

Good day and how are you and family .I got your contact and i was just
checking if you will be available to
repair and install some applications on 11 (ELEVEN) PC ."
"Hello ,

How you doing?

Thanks for you quick response,I have some Hp PCs(Intel Pentium IV)
since we currently have a major breakdown on most of our systems and I
thought it was best to have a general upgrade and maintenance.(I will
be providing the software needed).Below are the things needed to be
done one on each laptops:

1 Format Hard Drive
2 Install Win Xp with Service Pack 2
3 Microsoft Office Package
4 AVG Virus Software (Free Lifetime Updates )
5 Adobe Acrobat
6 Laptop Cleaning of the keyboard, screen and other case.
7 Diagnostics of the entire system after to check hard, CD Rom, floppy,
etc.

I will like You to know that my mode of payment is by US certified
check mailed and address to you from my employer company since I am
presently on a business workshop in Panama city,South American and i
want you to know that i will handle the shipment myself since i have a
shipper from the state here that will bring the laptops to your
place,and will come pick them up as soon as you are done with them.

I should have make this a phone order but i have a network problem of
where i am and my shipper will be coming with the necessary Software
for the installations of the Computers with both the Operating
System,Microsoft Office and the Anti-virus for each computers .

However,get back to me with your last asking price for the 11{ELEVEN} PC.
I await your urgent response so that i can put the arrangement in
order.


Thanks and hope to read from you soon."


After going through all this trouble, I thought it was legitimate, I quoted her 90$ a machine, so 990$ total.

"I must confess I'm comfortable with the cost and its quite reasonable
 and affordable and also,i hope i can trust you that to do a good job."



And then I get this email, which broke my heart.


"Hello Casey,
     Sorry for not getting back to you since. It's just that am busy. However, i just receive an update from my client that the payment will be delivered to you today via Usps and here is the Usps tracking# EO 988 148 502 US.

 I want you to proceed to your bank immediately you get the payment to get the payment deposited for 24hrs.

As soon as you get the payment withdrawn ,i will want you to proceed to the nearest western union outlet and get the Balance sent after you deduct your own payment from the total payment sent to you by my client and get the rest money sent to the Shipper. And as soon as you make that done i will let the Shipper contact you and make the arrangement of date and time the Pcs will be delivered to you. Pls make sure you send the Money to the Shipper before Wednesday so that the Shipper can come over to meet you.

Below is the Shipper information to remit the rest of the fund to via western union.
=
Name: Yvette Proctor
Address: 1901 E 1st St
City: Detroit
State: Michigan
Zip Code: 48234


Please do that immediately so that my Shipper can come over to meet you in the state.

As soon as you get the money sent i will want you to get back to me with this information's.

1.The MTCN ( 10digits number) on the Western Union  receipt
2.Sender's name and address used in sending the money
3.Actual Amount sent.
 
Moreover,you can go on to the www.westernunion.com/us to check for the nearest location to send the money to the Shipper.
 

Hope to read from you Soon.
Cheers !
Vannessa."

I was betting so much on this job, it would easily been enough to get an apartment, I actually setup a showing for a place I was gonna get. One bdrm 650sq.ft. for 560 a mo. with a 50$ security deposit, but no it's all bullshit! GOD DAMNIT!

This appears to be a new elaborate twist on the Nigerian lottery schemes. She sent me a check for 3250, dated from the 14th of December. I didn't even start talking to her until January. It's a completely fraudulent cashier's check.. The ink is running, and it appears to be printed crooked. I called the bank it's alleged to be from, and the routing number isn't attached to any account.

I shouldn't have put my eggs all in the same basket, but I only had one egg. Sad

Now, I'm fucking back to square one, after she wasted 2 weeks of my time.. I assumed the job was legitimate, so I didn't bother looking for more gigs. My plan was to do this job, get a place, and some breathing room. Then get a shitty telemarketing gig to keep my head above water until I could land another contract gig..

I'm gonna step in front of a fucking bus... I'm back to sleeping in the back of my friends car.. I don't know what to do anymore. Every single time I take one step forward a mac truck slams me 4 miles back.
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 12/01/2011, 21:38:06 UTC

There is no way to tell a legal resident from an illegal one without a hearing and it would be a civil hearing. If you didn't even show you would get a default judgement to vacate and that would be all. I don't suddenly become an illegal occupant if my toddler eats my lease. And you aren't automatically an illegal just because you can't produce a copy.

You can't live a legal life anyway, the law is enormous, contradictory, and ambiguous.
Then how does anyone ever get a breaking and entering charge? Or trespassing for that matter? I think there is a standard of judgment where it's the responding officer's determination whether or not it is actually a civil issue. Trespassing as well as breaking and entering are criminal charges, and if they can determine that you committed a criminal act, then civil court is a moot point. I know that you can't just break into a place, squat, and expect to have it be a civil issue. No police officer in this state will allow you to squat, and then force the landowner to file eviction proceedings.

I know what you're talking about as far as screwing over a landlord, moving into a place, and then forcing the landlord to evict you. But on the same coin, the landlord can break into your place and rob you of everything you own, and that would ALSO be a civil issue.. if you piss someone off, especially a landowner of who's property you reside on, they're capable of screwing you over in just the same method you did them.
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
by
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on 12/01/2011, 02:30:17 UTC
You just need to get into the right frame of mind and there is nothing that a cop can/will do except maybe make you leave if the property owner insists.

I'm renting now, if I lose the contract, which I may have, I'd be in the exact same legal situation as you (provided that you are not caught in the act of breaking in). Living where you are not permitted is a civil matter and the ultimate penalty is eviction.

I've hardly thought about this at all, but there are plenty of things you can do to help yourself. Figure out the name of the owner, can't be that hard, maybe it's on the mailbox, maybe it's on the internet. Say that you have a cash deal with Jerry. Act like you live there, dust the place. If it seems stable maybe turn on the internet and pay the bill. Don't feel guilty, improve the place, don't damage it.

I'm not saying you should definitely do this, only that it isn't impossible or a terrible idea like you think. 
You have a previous lease, and verifiable payments towards the landowner, which means they have to pursue eviction proceedings to forcibly remove you from the home. If you were not ever a legal resident they can remove you from the land IMMEDIATELY.

Why is everyone telling me to break the law? I want to live an honest legal life....
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 08/01/2011, 21:56:31 UTC
Hostels cost money, I believe the last one I looked at was 17$ a day.. but I'm not sure exactly how much it was... I have absolutely no money until I can land of these interviews.. I have about $0.32 all in pennies. Now I have to go panhandle again for tonight AND tomorrows hotel fare.. Since it's gonna blizzard tomorrow I won't be able to get anything for a few days. I wish I still had friends in this state.. Sad

Gen: Read carefully: "In the United States, squatting laws vary from state to state and city to city. For the most part, it is rarely tolerated to any degree for long, particularly in cities.[60]"
ALSO:
"Squatting was once a legitimate way to claim land but is now a crime. Some towns still have laws permitting legal dwelling in abandoned building, usually under the conditions that it had been vacated a certain length of time or brought up to code. For the most part though, it is illegal. "

I know what the laws are in this city, and squatting is a guarenteed trespassing ticket. Cops can charge with several things.. trespassing, vagrancy, illegal activity on public property, breaking and entering, etc.. This are all charges which squatting can fall under if the cop feels like being a dick, and he most likely give you a ticket for trespassing and tell you to leave, which is around a 400$+ fine and possible jail time, if he feels like REALLY being a dick, he can give you a felony trespassing or breaking and entering, which are instantly arrestable offences and are almost guaranteed jail time.
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 08/01/2011, 21:25:01 UTC
Breaking into an abandoned building is VERY illegal. Sometimes the cops will let you go with just a ticket, but that's if you're lucky. Sleeping outside is even illegal here, it's called "Illegal Camping." In the city of boulder you can sleep outside with just your clothes, but if you have anything at all with you, a blanket, pillow, tent.. it's "illegal camping."
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 08/01/2011, 20:56:54 UTC
Breaking and entering is a felony in the states.. Can't really afford that, and it's one of the crimes that'll make you pretty much unemployable if they do a background check, which most do. I started going through an old photo album today.. made me cry.. It's hard losing a family.. How do you tell a 2-year old that mommy would rather be a stripper/prostitute/cocaine addict then be her mother?

http://www.myspace.com/delusionaldrunkenhostess/photos/43769466#%7B%22ImageId%22%3A43769466%7D
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 07/01/2011, 23:08:22 UTC
What part of Denver are you in?
I've been staying in Aurora mainly, I only really ever goto the Denver library. I've been staying in this shitty motel off Colfax and Havana the last few nights.
I spent 4 hours this morning panhandling to only come up with 15$, which, with my friend, was barely enough to cover the motel. What fucking sucks though is I'm getting really sick of this guy I'm staying with.. he insists on only telling the hotel that it's just him to save money, so I'm sneaking in and sleeping on the floor, and the asshole won't even give me a fucking blanket. It beats the alternative, but I'm getting the feeling I'm being taken advantage of so he can make a few bucks.. I can get a hotel voucher on Sunday through the "Aurora warms the night" thingy they have, but it's only for the first 20 people, and I'm not sure what paperwork I need.

I feel like I'm so close to being out of this.. I have a job interview monday, I have another job opportunity wednesday.. I have so many outs it seems, but one of the jobs would be on-call, and I don't even have a phone.. I just need some help getting out of this hole, and I don't want to get robbed again or taken advantage of, it can only set me so far back, but still if I can't land either of these jobs, I'm gonna be stuck again.
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Re: I have nowhere else to turn..
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on 06/01/2011, 21:09:10 UTC
Wow, I got lucky last night.. I met up with Eric and he took care of food for me for a little while, but after that I was really confused as to where I was gonna stay.. It was too late to get to the boulder shelter in time (you have to be there by 5:30-6 at the latest or you get turned away). So I went to this carneceria and was just sitting there talking to the employees (I think I was hoping I could talk one of them into taking me in). I went outside and asked a man for a cigarette, and he told me no and walked away.. a couple minutes later he walks up to me and asks if I'm homeless, to which I obviously reply yes. He tells me that it's too cold to sleep outside, and that he'll gladly give me a place to stay if I split the hotel with him. I payed him everything I have (6$) and he let me crash there last night. He's working full-time, and he's trying to get back on his feet too. So now I have someone that I can work with to keep myself afloat. It's gonna be 15-20$ a night from here on out, thank god!

It's weird how sometimes things just seem to go your way!
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on 05/01/2011, 22:11:22 UTC
You know I can say one thing about this community, and it's a beautiful thing. You guys really have the sense of community that is lacking from most other places. I just had lunch with one of your fellow forum members, he bought me lunch and we sat and talked politics. It wasn't the most eventful lunch, nor was much talked about, but what matters more than that is that is the kindness of strangers. We had lunch because I assume first of all, as most of you here want to know, am I real? And secondly, I assume, because if I am an honest man, he wanted to help. He did indeed help, and without even knowing if I'd be where I said I was.

Things like this restore my faith in humanity as a whole. Thanks Eric.
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on 04/01/2011, 19:38:36 UTC
I don't hop on this forum much so I'd appreciate any links/help sent to my email instead.. waffers@gmail.com.. I'm still out in Denver, I was down in boulder, stayed at the shelter for a few nights, that's a difficult arrangement. I'm trying to get some coding work, but I don't even have a laptop. If anyone is familiar with any laptop donations in the Denver or Boulder area, please let me know.. Or even one better, if you personally have an old laptop with wifi that you wouldn't mind donating, please send me an email - waffers@gmail.com.

I know many of you may not need any coding work, (PHP/MySQL mainly) but I ask you to do me a personal favor.. Pass this link around http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/ew5il and see if any friends/family/acquaintances need some work done. As you all should know by now, I'm trying to get everything back from a myriad of people who've seemingly taken everything from me. But I'll not lay down and die, but at the same time, I still need some help here and there.. and I'm offering up my skills as a way for me to make money to stay alive.
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by
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on 01/01/2011, 21:32:21 UTC
If you were really lucky they'd find something to charge you with. Perhaps a burnt out tail light on your car?

Damn, i really hate this as it is very common in my country.
You come to them asking for help, and you get your ass kicked instead.

What? Don't they work for you? If you don't get service that you like stop paying, they aren't going to force you to keep paying, they aren't the criminals.

/sarcasm
Indeed. Hey freemoney, check your PM's... I've been trying to get ahold of you..