I'm not all all suprised by the downward spiral of vtc, but i am suprised how terribly bad the vtc team is handling it. Every coin is volatile, and the price range is limited by the trust & expectations of its investors. The investors can only judge the coin by what they see/hear on the net.
Here's what they see;
- no updates on plans for the future of vertcoin on bitcointalk or its official forum (Boris is largely MIA/AWOL)
- no strong reaction either way on changing the miner rewards/inflation.
- the official vertcoin forum is a mess (http://www.vertcoinforum.com, see posts by wxy1123 who is obviously a spammer/lunatic/bot that are left unmoderated for over a week).
So the message to investors is: we don't know what to do, we are either panicking or passed that stage and just don't care anymore so goodluck & seeya!
This coin will die a slow death unless the commucication improves, and not just a single reaction here or there.
Investors want to be able to trust the coin and know what they are getting into. Miners want to see a thread on bitcointalk that is actively moderated & up to date on info.

To quote Louis van Gaal
"Ben ik nou zo slim of zijn jullie zo dom?"

In windows the amd libraries compile the opencl file for the cards as one big (memory)image and upload that to the cards. If you don't have enough memory one or more cards won't start. Once the miner is running it uses hardly any memory at all.

I've been merge-mining at p2pool.vtcpool.co.uk for ~15 hours with an average of 900kh/s. My only payout was 0.06VTC around noon.
I should have gotten around 2VTC and (a guess, i have no idea what the block reward for mon is/was) 1+ mon..

If you would take the trouble to read the thread you would find your answers.

WTF man? A hard fork or 2 a year means updating the wallets and whatever systems merchants use two times a year. Do you have any idea how often windows / linux or whatever OS updates? As long as the economics of the coin remain unchanged and the security of the blockchain is maintained i say fork away!

There were hardly any miners mining this coin, especially when it was cpu only. I stumbled on vertcoin 2 days after the gpu miner was released and have been mining it from then on. The diff was at ~2..4 when i got in.
Sure, the diff must have been low at the start, and there were only a handfull of miners, and the diff retarget was slow, giving those miners a FAIR advantage. Anyone could have stepped in at that time. If you were not smart enough to get in then (like i didn't) and did not have the vision to do so then you call the early miners insta-miners? What about the early bitcoin and litecoin miners? Insta-miners too?
And why hidden? All coins were mined after the release no? Hidden insta-mine = mine before release, obviously that hasn't happened to vertcoin.
This is just someone pissed at not getting in early by ignoring the coin at the release.

Release date: knc is most popular in chatboxes(release in roughly 6 month)+ 'announcement' of scrypt-n asic (they will do a tapeout in roughly 6 month if they are not lying).
LTC'ers against asics:
Ok, then you do a poll and ask ALL litecoin users.
Forks:
Any random shit is stupid. But being ahead of things is hardly stupid? Showing you mean business when threatened isn't stupid? Being THE asic resistant coin isn't stupid?

I said over and out before. I mean it this time, no more replies from me on this subject. I think i've said it all multiple times (to the point where readers think they are invading my thread ).
Vertcoin needs to do things different. Get a system in place for easier updates/forks, advertise your plans for the futere (still not happening), get prepared, be pro-active!
Failing any point above-> bye bye asic resistance, or at least fail to get the userbase/growth perspective to be the #1(/#2) coin.

A: Did i imply knc was for scrypt-n? That was not what i meant. Take a look here: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=11864.0
Roughly 2/3 of the litecoin community is not happy with the comming asics (and rightly so). These ppl are looking for an alternative and vertcoin could very well be that alternative. Get them while they are pissed off at litecoin.
b: Pls elaborate. You will have to get used to more frequent forks, if not or if the devs do not choose to do so then the asic resistant claims are as toothless as all other asic resistant coins have been and will be as any 'big' coin will get attacked by asics.

As i said before: this is a unique chance to be different from the other (failed, at least on asic resistance) coins. Vertcoin will have to do things different, and let people know they do things different.

I think i've spammed my view often enough, time for me to wait and see what will happen.
Just to recap:

Asics lead to centralisation
The fact that asic miners have a very low overhead and are very cheap to produce (<<$10 production, <$1 overhead (switching regulator)) means mining factories can be built for very low cost and a 51% attack in every conceivable form is possible and will happen if the coin has become a major player. I'm not going to say much of who is really in control over the coin once asics miners are the only ones left mining a coin.

Asics will be developed for any PoW when money is at stake

The only way to fight asics is to stay on top, more frequent forks, make some system to handle forks better, get users to expect forks and know what to do.

In very short: do you want the asic producers to run the coin or the community?

Over and out.

That leaves us 6 months or so to think things through.

I would suggest
- Get more brains on board for the PoW. Plan a tick-tock or tick-tick-tock scheme for updates to the PoW (tick is small change to the algo, like different primenumbers for the sha256, one extra hash round..)
- Work on a system to make hardforks easier. Users need to get used to more frequent client updates
- Make sure any hardforks do not change the parameters of the coin (rewards/blocktime/minability)

I also think a hardfork should happen before the release of the knc scrypt miner to show that vertcoin means business with its asic resistant claim.

How about that? Exe on cryptsy and the deposits at cryptsy work!!
That means; skip the pump phase and go right to the dumping

Don't get me wrong, but i have heard you say this as often as you said this
Just include
on a prominant place on vertcoin.org. Use it to get more ex-ltc supporters and maybe even some coders on our side. You can't get better free exposure than with this right now.

I would not spent any real money on those votes. Instead donate to the dev, he can do more than just get the coin on craptsy the dumpers heaven. If volume on the other exchanges is high enough for little vern to see profit for him he will add it with or without votes.

The increasing speed of computers is factored in in the N-schedule. But what the future brings is anyone's guess.

Why in F4cks sake would a hardfork kill a coin? Yes, you create a new coin technically speaking, but that does not mean the old coin is 'broken'. In this case it would be no more than maintanance to stay true to its specifications.

The moment i doubt the asic resistance of this or any future coin i will dump the shit out of it. If i want a asic-raped coin i''ll stay with bitcoin and hope for the best. There has not been any coin including bitcoin that has seriously considered and chosen to stay true to its claims and the users, and i'm fed up with this.
So i would appreciate some planning ahead. There is none at the moment. Heck, on vertcoin.org there is no word on the possibility of a fork, just the hope scrypt-n will keep asics out. For how long? 1 Year? 2? I bet its no more than 1 year. What will happen then? What is the plan? Can we be informed before this happens? Will vertcoin communicate its stand publicly? Will vertcoin when push comes to shove do the 'right' thing? We are at a defining moment in time to make vertcoin future proof, and i don't want to see it turn into yet another fire and forget coin.

Looking nice!

Here's my (hot) wallet to show i'm all in vert: http://vertexplorer.com/address/VcduRe3iQZfPPQxuJaxqPdVSqoGyDUar21

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The picture shows the individual's doa%. These matter and will lower your payout. By choosing the right node and lowering the intensity you can bring that back to around 3%. As most other miners will have a higher doa% you will gain extra by getting a higher share%. So make sure your doa% is lower than the rest of your node's miners.
Remember that your absolute valid hashrate does not count, but your valid hashrate compared to that of the other miners does.
The pool doa% doesn't matter at all.

Well, i think if they approach dangerous hashing levels they will be detected and forked. A little asic action should not hurt the coin?

Mostly true. But check a p2pool website (http://freebtc.eu:9173/static/). You'll see doa% for the pool is ~20%. Those % do not count in lost hashrate for you. Only the doa% for the miners count, and everyone has a higher % on p2pool so your share from the profits are not affected by that (but do try to get your % down, this will up your valid hashrate).

I don't like PoS. No work should mean no money, just like in the real world. With this method early adopters get most coins for little work. Plus miners will only get tx fees when most bag holders do what they do; hold bags generating no tx fees..

I've listened to every podcast and read everything. I even spammed btc-e trollbox on every occasion at the risk of a ban
It is irelevant if i believe if the devs will keep their word or not. What matters is what asic developers believe, and what all coin users believe.

I mostly agree. But i don't believe the chance for stealth asics to be very high. Used asics would be worthless and development costs would be very hard to get back on a few asics. As soon as the asic% gets too high they would run the risk of being forked.

DeltaQuebec did explain it but but to be more specific about the 'LOST HASH';

The doa% for the pool IS much higher with p2pool. But that doa% is for the p2pool blockchain and does not propagate outside to the normal blockchain. And thus will not influence payouts. The doa% for your miner is also a little higher and you will get a lower payout if you don't try to get that % down as far as you can (best by choosing a node with a low ping time and lowering the intensity on your software).
The blockchain for p2pool is 10? times faster than the normal blockchain, and also has a 10? times lower difficulty. This will result in the higher doa%. When a block is found within the p2pool that block often propagates faster to the outside world, making the chance it gets orphaned smaller. As with all pools in p2pool the rewards are shared among the miners. Your share% depends on your hashrate-doa so try to get your doa% lower. The shares that are orphaned from your p2pool node to the other p2pool nodes do not matter. They are not at a sufficient difficulty for a 'block found' anyway, and i think they will still count as valid shares in your node (not sure about that though).