I think you misread my post. The thread starter was requesting to purchase proxies and bulk email accounts.  This implies that the thread starter is attempting to spam his goods or services (most likely goods) in violation of the can spam act (why else would he need proxies or bulk email accounts unless it is to hide large amounts of unsolicited bulk email).   Hence my post "May as well change the thread title to "Where can i buy botnet services to help me spam my goods.""

The thread starter obviously would not need proxies or bulk email accounts if he hired a spammer to do it for him, but the result is the same regardless.  The thread starter appears to be planning to engage in unsolicited bulk email and wants to hide his activities from authorities.

It's a joke that mods allow threads like these to exist, they are highly transparent.

May as well change the thread title to "Where can i buy botnet services to help me spam my goods"

Admin and staff were first approached December 21, 2012 regarding the topic of illegal sales of hacked/compromised accounts and illegal secondary sales of unauthorized transfers of accounts based on provisional access to database services.  Over the past 18 days individual staff have been approached top to bottom including developers.  Nobody wants to challenge Theymos on this issue which he would prefer to ignore, nor does anyone want to clean up this mess before it spirals out of control and harms the reputation of the currency and this forum. I've provided enough evidence publicly and privately to indicate an issue persists. I'm not going to stick around and continue to defend the best interests of the currency or the forum in this thread if none of the staff or development team want any real change to occur. It's pointless to do so. I'm also not going to stick around while mods ignore continued defamation. I only hope that enemies of the currency don't use this unresolved issue as ammunition, I would be deeply saddened if that happened.

I'm done with this thread.

Not sure I agree with the bit about neglect, but the rest is pretty much dead on.

The parents obviously are not using disincentives or punishment effectively to change their child's behavior.  You shouldn't have disciplined their kid, but if they know there's an established behavior problem with their child, they should be escalating punishment until the child's behavior changes.  Take away toys, don't allow the child to play with friends, isolate the child for an extended period (have to be careful here or it could be viewed as "psychological abuse").

yes, that sums it up.

There is a reason they say violence begets violence

Guessing by the first post that this is a woman going into labor. lol

As stated before I am unaffiliated with nzb sites. The treaty does indicate that unauthorized transfers of credentials or access codes are in fact illegal without explicit permission of the site owner or institution that granted provisional access for those credentials. That proof was given here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134779.msg1435482#msg1435482


Nice trick there with the database query, but anyone with half a brain and knowledge of database administration is not going to believe you. Now you have openly engaged in defamation (libel) in an attempt to discredit me by falsifying information.  Your true colors are revealed now. You are not going to fool anyone with your schemes. If you attempt to escalate and make a post to newsgroups it will reflect that your post occurred at this time and date and will be reflected as fraud. Your post is being reported to a moderator.

Anyone can try this gimmick

Example: http://www.binsearch.net/?server=0&max=250&g=alt.binaries.music&a=vampire%40vampire.nl+(Vampire)

So you're claiming that I'm a thief without any proof. I'm confused, isn't that why you're claiming I should be banned?
You seem to throw out a lot of insults, vulgarities, and show open hostility.  You don't appear capable of engaging in civil discussion.

You have previously stated and claimed that torrent and nzb sites are illegal, you even went so far as to point to information which may be posted on gingadaddy that supported your argument.  If the site in question which you posted to does contain illegal information and is not DMCA compliant then that supports a position for not allowing sales of credentials or invites. Associating Bitcoin and this website with illegal sales of unauthorized credentials and access codes or other activity only harms the reputation of the site and the currency. Those sales may occur elsewhere, but they shouldn't occur here on the semi-official forum of bitcoin.

You seem to ignore your own supporting argument.  Here let me remind you since you seem to have a very short memory.




I don't have to prove you are financially vested.  I did however observe that your actions are irrational and indicate that you are clueless, trolling, or vested (financially or for person gain) in the outcome of this topic.  The people I have brought to light in this topic and in the previous topic are engaged in illegal sales. The claims aren't baseless.  Sellers here are engaged in illegal secondary sales of unauthorized access codes and credentials which they gained through provisional access to database services.  You seem to want to ignore that.   Your actions indicate that you would prefer I go away because you want these sales to continue.

I've already answered that question, I'll repost the answer.


Also these posts were relevant to me bringing this issue of illegal sales of unauthorized access codes and credentials to light.

We've already established that unauthorized sales of access codes (invites) and credentials are illegal in most nations. Let's try and overlook that these sales are illegal.

I thought the point of this thread was not allowing for "banned" users from torrentinvites.org to sell here. Marius is banned on torrentinvites.org.  He is also banned on invitescene.com

If your vouching system relies on another forum to check its users for AE, and they fail to verify their users, then the policy here doesn't do much to stop hackers, scammers, or disreputable sellers does it?

Mods there appears to be suspicious association between the user "MariusTi" and user "supernatural".  Unlike Gabriel Seletchi ("torac") who I have a wealth of information on, I can not guarantee that "MariusTi" and "supernatural" are the same user.  It is possible they could be two different users in the same region.  Please investigate old IP logs.  "supernatural" may be using Romanian ISP, RCS & RDS SA.

Troll thread, maybe.  Troll posts?  I don't think it's possible to troll this thread.

I proved unauthorized sales of access codes and credentials are illegal, you have even supported my argument on multiple occasions even though you ignore your own supporting arguments.  I'm familiar with many types of sites notwithstanding auction sites, commerce, discussion forums, and other various sites. I commented on those sites because they were relevant to the existing thread topic and Gabriel Seletchi and also in responding to your frequent posts.  You can continue trolling, but consider yourself ignored. You have been openly hostile, you throw insults, and have engaged in childlike tantrums since your initial post in this thread.

You are either clueless, trolling, or vested (financially, or for personal gain) in the outcome of this topic as you continue to rationalize illegal sales transactions of access codes or credentials. You continue to run around in circles to try and find a "gotcha" stipulation that can allow illegal transactions to take place on this forum.  

You are not responding in any rational manner and frequently go off-topic. You are not serving the site or yourself by continuing to defend illegal sales. You are not going to bait me into a shouting match, or devolve this topic into such an endless foray. I'm ignoring your posts from now on.

It was and is not my intent to troll this site. I am trying to improve this site, even though admin are ignoring an issue that has real consequences for various parties. As stated previously, I am unaffiliated with any sites brought up in this or prior threads, none of the admin of the sites mentioned knew or had prior contact with me prior to bringing this topic to light here on bitcointalk.org.  I could have chosen a different thread or poster regarding unauthorized sales of access codes or credentials (whether they be hacked/compromised, or unauthorized sales).  I specifically chose to create a thread regarding this topic and also respond to the sales and other actions (hacking, brute forcing, reselling services via proxy) of Gabriel Seletchi ("torac") because his actions were the most egregious violations of laws of various nations.   Sales of access codes and credentials are illegal.  Associating these illegal transactions with Bitcoin reduce the reputation of the currency and place the site and its staff in a position where they can face criminal and civil liability. This is a serious issue. Trolls, users, and staff can ignore the issue, but sooner or later there can and may very well be legal action taken by some party who finds their access codes or credentials sold on this website. This is not a threat, it is a observation regarding the liability that the site faces by not banning unauthorized sales of credentials by resellers that hold no ownership of provisioned credentials that are in fact owned by site owners or institutions.

Multiple personalities (accounts) for MPD. Equal opportunity for all to speak freely.

Technically you do own exclusive ownership of your soul (property) and maintain a right to sale unless it's been bargained away to some other entity that retains a right to ownership. Could you lease ownership of your soul?  Sell your soul as a service?  That would make for an interesting discussion.

lol

Clearly you are not a very bright troll so let me clarify this again for you.  Your Netflix account is a provisioned subscription account, you do not own your account, nor do you own a right to resell services.  The netflix law concerned free account sharing of paid accounts (like with a relative or friend), which is technically theft of service with illegal access because an account holder is sharing services only intended to be provided to the account holder.  This however has been proven many times to constitute access fraud. You can't freely share your investment bank account credentials with a guy off the street. You can't freely share your DoD access with a civilian.  You can't freely share your credentials to a medical database with unauthorized users (again criminal penalties apply). The list goes on.

The main reason Netflix and most other subscription based businesses won't prosecute minor violations of abuse is because it could create high customer turnover if customers feared they were going to be prosecuted (it doesn not mean the act itself of sharing service is not illegal).  However, if you were reselling Netflix services under a proxy (financial gain), you would face criminal and civil prosecution for theft of service. Netflix pushed for specific clarification into law, but this doesn't mean they could not have users prosecuted under existing law.

Sales of account credentials or access codes are illegal and will earn you jail time.  It is irrelevant if it is Netflix, amazon, itunes, or any other service provider, the sale of access codes or credentials itself is access fraud (misuse of access), and anyone who uses those credentials or access codes is also engaging in access fraud (illegal access) with theft of service.