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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 21:41:26 UTC
will this coin go higher or come a dump?

ol just shut up if you have nothing reasonable to say. No one is disparaging DRK. I haven't. I certainly don't see anyone who has. We are just arguing about price but you're getting your knickers in a twist.

You must've been away the last week or so. Smiley

True. I've been away for a bit. Just thought I'd pop in. I figured there would be people still crying about "instamine" and shit. Even on the sub reddit. And my crystal ball is not working due to power outage.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 21:27:01 UTC
A thing that I dont understand.
If you think that darkcoin is scam/bad/shit or anything else, why are you here ? Got to the thread of your favorite cryptos.

The only answer comin in my head is : spreading fud/shit to buy at lower price.

Youi're an idiot if you think that is what has been said here. Sorry but it's true. I have not said anything of that nature. Can you not read? Christ.

Are you alone here ?
Center of the world ?
Take your ego and go away.

Ah so you are actually illiterate then? with a hint of aspergers? I am sorry. I should not have insulted a handicap.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 21:24:43 UTC
A thing that I dont understand.
If you think that darkcoin is scam/bad/shit or anything else, why are you here ? Got to the thread of your favorite cryptos.

The only answer comin in my head is : spreading fud/shit to buy at lower price.

Youi're an idiot if you think that is what has been said here. Sorry but it's true. I have not said anything of that nature. Can you not read? Christ.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 21:23:34 UTC

slyA, I'm so sad. I remember reading you on february. I hope you ok when we hit 0.2 very soon.  

2 words= Master Nodes

People are holding because of the master nodes, very soon we will have some very nice and very easy darks every month. there is no dump because of the master nodes issue. We are all holding. Who want to lose the opportunity to get free darks every month?

It's no difficult to understand, even for me with my broken english.
 

Wait are you being serious? I have not said DRK will crash and burn. Where are you getting this from? I am holding DRK. I have been for months. I am saying people telling others to buy buy buy are misleading people. See maxcoin. Do you know why people in crypto no longer take keisser seriously?

Maxcoin went from 40 dollars to 0.12, screwing many people over and many potential enthusiasts. If someone is adept enough to come to DRK coin thread and ask advice, why would you want to lie and say "buy buy buy"? At least be reasonable and say be careful.

Based on the rise, I can say this is a pump. Masternodes will get some people to hold, but not all.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 21:13:30 UTC
I choose to take SlyA's comments at face value, (and not speculate on what he's done with whatever % of his coins).
I read this as :-
Pumps are a fact of crypto life and DRK's price wouldn't be where it is now without them.
This could be a top (for now) so be careful.
Take a step back and accept this, and don't get caught up in "to da moon" blind cheerleading

There's been no trashing of DRK.

I have found it quite sobering.

For the record, I love DRK, havn't sold a single one and am holding seriously long term.

Thank you for saying what I was trying to say in a more family friendly manner. Cheers.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 21:09:59 UTC
Why are so many trolls on atm....

People were saying the same things about Bitcoin, how it was play money, monopoly money, how it couldn't be taken seriously..
You trolls are saying those same things that was said about Bitcoin, about Darkcoin, and guess what? Bitcoin overcame those stupid trolls and went from 1 cent to $1200. Darkcoin overcame those stupid trolls and went from 1 cent to $10, and it's still only the beginning.

I hope you don't cry/shit your pants when it keeps rising like I'm sure many ex-bitcoiners had when btc reached $1200.

ol just shut up if you have nothing reasonable to say. No one is disparaging DRK. I haven't. I certainly don't see anyone who has. We are just arguing about price but you're getting your knickers in a twist.

Would you like me to quote what you've said earlier? You're not just argueing about the price. Stop saying one thing and making up something else.

-trolls these days- 

Please quote it. At first I thought you were just being snarky. I realise you actually believe I'm trolling DRK.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 21:04:34 UTC
Why are so many trolls on atm....

People were saying the same things about Bitcoin, how it was play money, monopoly money, how it couldn't be taken seriously..
You trolls are saying those same things that was said about Bitcoin, about Darkcoin, and guess what? Bitcoin overcame those stupid trolls and went from 1 cent to $1200. Darkcoin overcame those stupid trolls and went from 1 cent to $10, and it's still only the beginning.

I hope you don't cry/shit your pants when it keeps rising like I'm sure many ex-bitcoiners had when btc reached $1200.

ol just shut up if you have nothing reasonable to say. No one is disparaging DRK. I haven't. I certainly don't see anyone who has. We are just arguing about price but you're getting your knickers in a twist.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:57:24 UTC
I still can't figure out the main point of the pointing out of what everyone in crypto land sort of knows.

The fact that I'm arguing with people, not just people, regulars, proves not everyone knows. Or that they just forget once a coin rises.

I'd like to take part in this argument.

 Grin OI mate!

How've you been?

Alright this is how it goes. I say "this is a pump" and you say "troll! or hater! or idiot"!

Lol thats easy. Ok the price has risen astronomically in a very short time frame. It's all the more reason to be cautious if thinking about going all in.

THIS IS EXACTY WHAT I TOLD THAT GUY.That is all I said. Be careful due to the price rise.

What happened next? Kai proctor went through my history and accused me of being a disgruntled person who sold too early. Other band wagoners have called me a troll and claimed drk coin's market is different when all indications point to manipulation be it positive or negative.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:55:20 UTC
Hey slyA, everyone knows what you are saying is true, no one wants to admit it cause everyone wants a higher price to cashout. Why do you think everyone get's all
defensive when any criticism is pointed towards Darkcoin. I was into Darkcoin right from the beginning, I know it has uses, but people who think that Dakrcoin will beat Bitcoin one day and be used by everyone for "privacy" reasons is smoking some very strong stuff.

This is very funny actually, you should look up some quotes form the early days of computers and internet on where it was heading. People were sceptic, were dismissing it, if they have been right you would not be here posting nonsense.

I never dismissed it. I never ragged against the coin or the dev or anything in its fundamentals. I just told 1 guy who was asking if he should buy more to be careful. That is what started all this and made people angry.

You can call this the internet or google or whatever and I will not argue with you. That is a different battle.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:47:31 UTC


Mate, I've been here from almost the beginning. If there is one thing I'll tell you honestly, it's that the coin is being pumped. That is the truth. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is lying to you.

I have quite a bit of DRK and I've made some money off it. Just don't listen to people speaking good tidings. This is reminiscent of the vertcoin pump in february. Don't get caught in all the hoopla.

What's surprising is the sensible regulars who I thought wouldn't get caught up in the "to the moon" craze are also cheering people on in this pump.

Comparing Darkcoin to Vertcoin... their only common point is the suffix "coin". You claim since the 15th of this month that it's a pump so I suppose that you already dumped all you had @ 0.013-0.014...

Come on guys. Even the long termers here are claiming its not a pump? really? can you not remember black coin? those weird walls are stable pump and dump signs. ride the waves but don't get greedy. it always happens.

There's no need to get snarky mate. If you went trawling through my history to dig up THAt quote then you must really need to convince yourself that this is not a pump.

I won't say anything anymore since I like the coin and have defended it quite a bit.

Black coin was pumped for 1 month straight from 500 satoshi to 80k satoshi. Where is black coin now?

Do you remember those huge buy walls? Do you remember that black coin was also POS?

Darck coin does not yet have enough marketing infrastructure to support the relative scarcity and price rise. It is being propped up and we all know it.

At least lets not stick our heads in the sand here. Cheers.

Lol lol lol you are so stupid. Do you realise it yourself? Their is a big diffrence with a coin being over 10 dollars or a coin being at 40cent that is getting a massive pump then a dump and never recover. Darkcoin went from 0.0030 to 0.0180 then got dumped to 0.0099. The chart right before the dump said it was a typical pump and dump chart. And yet here we are. We went back to 170 2 more times now after that dump.
And now we are even over the high of that pump. Yea we can totally compare it to blackcoin..

Do you see Litecoin crash in a day from 10 to 5$? No... Darkcoin has gone out of the shadows. It is now at a spot where it won't just all of sudden gets dumped and lose half its value.

But did that happen on its own or was it due to 200+ btc buy walls driving it up? Lets admit it was due to that and not due to "fundamentals" which DRK definitely has.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:43:11 UTC
Fair enough. I'm an idiot. I will shut up. Asking for some reasonable discourse proves too hard when a coin is "Going to the moon". I'll return to my troll cave.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:37:08 UTC
I still can't figure out the main point of the pointing out of what everyone in crypto land sort of knows.

The fact that I'm arguing with people, not just people, regulars, proves not everyone knows. Or that they just forget once a coin rises.

I'd like to take part in this argument.

 Grin OI mate!

How've you been?

Alright this is how it goes. I say "this is a pump" and you say "troll! or hater! or idiot"!
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:33:46 UTC
I still can't figure out the main point of the pointing out of what everyone in crypto land sort of knows.

The fact that I'm arguing with people, not just people, regulars, proves not everyone knows. Or that they just forget once a coin rises.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:29:57 UTC

What part of, Darkcoin has real world utility, and thus actual value, potentially to us all, do you not understand?

Comparing it to shitcoins is obtuse. You say you've been around crypto for a while, maybe that's the problem, you're so used to garbage you don't recognise true worth when you see it.



You're a stupid fool. I'm sorry you're actually an idiot if you think that is what I wa scomparing. I never compared dark coin to vert or any other shit coin.

I was comparing the market movement. And only an idiot will ignore that. We've all been on these trains before. When vert coin was pumped to 10 bucks, everyone said the same thing. ASIC utility proof. In the end it deflated when the buy walls vanished. I am not saying it will happen with DRK. I am saying it is a possibility.

Market patterns repeat themselves. Dark coin is currently an asset and not yet money. Don't bury your head in the sand and claim it is the second coming when its main features are not yet online. And yes, don't act like a twunt because you jumped the bad wagon. Scroll back to February. I've been follwoing the progress of the coin and defending the coin so understand that I am not a troll.
Same thing.
"Look at the rise of Google stocks, Vertcoin rised like that so it's probably a pump and dump !" Roll Eyes


ARe you talking about an established tech giant that went public with its shares to DArkcoin? Wow.. Just wow. If this is the level of idiocy I'm arguing with then I might as well just shut up.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:25:58 UTC


If you think charts and graphs apply to cryptocurrencies, my friend, you are delusional.

This isn't stocks, there's a reason wall street hasn't gotten into Bitcoin.

If it was so easy to predict, then we'd all be multi millionaires...You don't know what you're talking about...maybe you'd like to bring a stock analyst to come in here and tell you just how wrong you are?
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Haha. Did you really type that out and actually believe it?

So you think because Drk is rising that the laws of economics no longer apply? DRK is an asset you ignoramus. Conceptually it is e-cash. But it is an asset and is currently acting and being treated like one. We are arguing about daily pricings for chrissakes.

The reason wall street has been apprehensive of bitcoin is due to regulatory measures. Go read instead of typing out whatever silly retort you can without understanding what the hell is going on.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:22:31 UTC

What part of, Darkcoin has real world utility, and thus actual value, potentially to us all, do you not understand?

Comparing it to shitcoins is obtuse. You say you've been around crypto for a while, maybe that's the problem, you're so used to garbage you don't recognise true worth when you see it.



You're a stupid fool. I'm sorry you're actually an idiot if you think that is what I wa scomparing. I never compared dark coin to vert or any other shit coin.

I was comparing the market movement. And only an idiot will ignore that. We've all been on these trains before. When vert coin was pumped to 10 bucks, everyone said the same thing. ASIC utility proof. In the end it deflated when the buy walls vanished. I am not saying it will happen with DRK. I am saying it is a possibility.

Market patterns repeat themselves. Dark coin is currently an asset and not yet money. Don't bury your head in the sand and claim it is the second coming when its main features are not yet online. And yes, don't act like a twunt because you jumped the bad wagon. Scroll back to February. I've been follwoing the progress of the coin and defending the coin so understand that I am not a troll.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:15:35 UTC
This has been over and over again.
1) 5 or so pump attempts and no dump. Any other coin done that?
2) Other coins are purely about speculation/trading. This one brings value as it has a real use for it. Actual business use cases.
3) Darkcoin is constantly developed, with a real people behind it, not hiding behind forum nicknames.

One could expand and go on and on, but I think these clues are enough.
Think and make your own mind.

So you're telling me those walls of 100 +btc are just people looking to buy in? come on mate don't be ridiculous.
Have you not seen the flash crashes that always happen once the walls get removed?
Everytime the price dipped 40 to 50 percent, it's because someone sold into the walls or the walls were removed. That is it.

Did you even bother to read this?

IMO what puts the lie to the "this is just a pump" statement is volume.  DRK has seen multiple $1M+ days and topped out at almost $5M volume in one day.  Vert had a single $1M+ day, and nothing else has come close.

http://coinmarketcap.com/drk_90.html
http://coinmarketcap.com/vtc_180.html

There is a ton of money being put into DRK right now.  If the volume were low then it would be easy to say that it's being manipulated and pumped.  The volume is so high that there's no way that a single person or small group of people is responsible for everything that we've seen.  Not to say that it's immune from manipulation (I do think the price is being shepherded by some whales) but we would not be seeing the kind of volume that we're seeing if this was just a few people trading back and forth.  There is significant new money entering the DRK ecosystem, and that is what is really driving the price.

Wow... so many financial geniuses come here speaking of pumps when they dont even understand how this coin works.

... a fake pump of a 7 million market cap to 43 million in 2 weeks.  Yes, its a fake pump. Please dump!! Pleeeeeease !!

Have a look at the charts. Check the volume and price history.
Please show the graph with 50% dip.

Finally, once you have done your homework, compare the charts to any pump in the altcoin history.
If you've been in the altcoin for a while, or have a basic knowledge of pattern, you would realise how ridiculous your "arguments" are.

Because the person who wrote that is attributing the transaction money to "money being put in". Transaction volume indicates how much worth of transactions are occurring not how much is being injected. Just the same way market cap can jump 1million dollars when 20k dollars was injected into it.

Secondly, screaming about "fake pump" dump please!! is just childish. I never said anyone should dump. All I said is people should be careful. Insider trading is the name of the game and once the buy walls disappear the coin will slowly defalte. You can't expect perpetual upward motion. That is not sensible. Especially given the time frame.

Thirdly, was it not just 2 days ago that the coin went from 6 dollars to 3.50 before going back up once the walls resurfaced?

How can you sit there and tell me the coin is naturally growing when all the signs point to intense manipulation?

Other coins that got pumped were also averaging 1m+ daily movements. At least have the honesty to admit that instead of beign reviosionist mate.





This is natural growth, if you think those "whales" with 100($50,000) btc are manipulating a coin with a marketcap of 30million, and 4,000 btc daily movement, then you need a reality check, simple..


That is the dumbest statement I have read all weak. Simple.
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:14:47 UTC


You probably know I've done my homework on darkcoin, and because of it I've been continually buying on the price rise. If you haven't seen my homework, I'll spam it here again. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=579976.msg6335710#msg6335710

The current price is like a first /second round start-up valuation. If you go out to silicon valley with a project that has the potential - that is all it needs, potential - to be the future eCash system of choice, even a second runner behind Bitcoin, then VCs would give you $100m and more. And you know it that is possible, because that is how they work.

Darkcoin is undervalued right now. If it can get to $1bn in a few years time, a $50m valuation buy price now is worth the high risk gamble.

Yes you have. And you should know that I have been active here too. I was even a rather rabid person at times defending this coin against the likes of anoncoinlover and hyuksunnum or whatever.

Looking at the market movements, the movement of the particular buy walls is more than enough proof that the coin is being propped up. The pumpers don't need to "dump" coins.

If they put their buy walls at 17 and people buy up their coins at 19, that is how they cash out. When they take out the buy walls, the coin deflates, thay buy in cheaper and reestablish the buy walls. Rinse and repeat.

The people here getting angry at what I'm saying are already enamoured with dollar signs and I won't blame them. I am giddy about it too. Just hoping we can keep a little sanity here.

As for your valuation, if there are not enough markets using DARKCOIN, the high price would be unsustainble. LTC is currently sitting pretty up there because it was basically the second and rode the "bitcoin alternative" train.

DRK has a long way to go but understanably it just might get there. Question is, when?
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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 20:08:29 UTC
This has been over and over again.
1) 5 or so pump attempts and no dump. Any other coin done that?
2) Other coins are purely about speculation/trading. This one brings value as it has a real use for it. Actual business use cases.
3) Darkcoin is constantly developed, with a real people behind it, not hiding behind forum nicknames.

One could expand and go on and on, but I think these clues are enough.
Think and make your own mind.

So you're telling me those walls of 100 +btc are just people looking to buy in? come on mate don't be ridiculous.
Have you not seen the flash crashes that always happen once the walls get removed?
Everytime the price dipped 40 to 50 percent, it's because someone sold into the walls or the walls were removed. That is it.

Did you even bother to read this?

IMO what puts the lie to the "this is just a pump" statement is volume.  DRK has seen multiple $1M+ days and topped out at almost $5M volume in one day.  Vert had a single $1M+ day, and nothing else has come close.

http://coinmarketcap.com/drk_90.html
http://coinmarketcap.com/vtc_180.html

There is a ton of money being put into DRK right now.  If the volume were low then it would be easy to say that it's being manipulated and pumped.  The volume is so high that there's no way that a single person or small group of people is responsible for everything that we've seen.  Not to say that it's immune from manipulation (I do think the price is being shepherded by some whales) but we would not be seeing the kind of volume that we're seeing if this was just a few people trading back and forth.  There is significant new money entering the DRK ecosystem, and that is what is really driving the price.

Wow... so many financial geniuses come here speaking of pumps when they dont even understand how this coin works.

... a fake pump of a 7 million market cap to 43 million in 2 weeks.  Yes, its a fake pump. Please dump!! Pleeeeeease !!

Have a look at the charts. Check the volume and price history.
Please show the graph with 50% dip.

Finally, once you have done your homework, compare the charts to any pump in the altcoin history.
If you've been in the altcoin for a while, or have a basic knowledge of pattern, you would realise how ridiculous your "arguments" are.

Because the person who wrote that is attributing the transaction money to "money being put in". Transaction volume indicates how much worth of transactions are occurring not how much is being injected. Just the same way market cap can jump 1million dollars when 20k dollars was injected into it.

Secondly, screaming about "fake pump" dump please!! is just childish. I never said anyone should dump. All I said is people should be careful. Insider trading is the name of the game and once the buy walls disappear the coin will slowly defalte. You can't expect perpetual upward motion. That is not sensible. Especially given the time frame.

Thirdly, was it not just 2 days ago that the coin went from 6 dollars to 3.50 before going back up once the walls resurfaced?

How can you sit there and tell me the coin is naturally growing when all the signs point to intense manipulation?

Other coins that got pumped were also averaging 1m+ daily movements. At least have the honesty to admit that instead of beign reviosionist mate.



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Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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slyA
on 22/05/2014, 19:57:29 UTC


Mate, I've been here from almost the beginning. If there is one thing I'll tell you honestly, it's that the coin is being pumped. That is the truth. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is lying to you.

I have quite a bit of DRK and I've made some money off it. Just don't listen to people speaking good tidings. This is reminiscent of the vertcoin pump in february. Don't get caught in all the hoopla.

What's surprising is the sensible regulars who I thought wouldn't get caught up in the "to the moon" craze are also cheering people on in this pump.

Comparing Darkcoin to Vertcoin... their only common point is the suffix "coin". You claim since the 15th of this month that it's a pump so I suppose that you already dumped all you had @ 0.013-0.014...

Come on guys. Even the long termers here are claiming its not a pump? really? can you not remember black coin? those weird walls are stable pump and dump signs. ride the waves but don't get greedy. it always happens.

There's no need to get snarky mate. If you went trawling through my history to dig up THAt quote then you must really need to convince yourself that this is not a pump.

I won't say anything anymore since I like the coin and have defended it quite a bit.

Black coin was pumped for 1 month straight from 500 satoshi to 80k satoshi. Where is black coin now?

Do you remember those huge buy walls? Do you remember that black coin was also POS?

Darck coin does not yet have enough marketing infrastructure to support the relative scarcity and price rise. It is being propped up and we all know it.

At least lets not stick our heads in the sand here. Cheers.