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Some people try to game the system, using martingale method etc. Other than that some people just love to gamble!
any write ups on this? Itwould be fun to read .
someone on the irc said it can be done even better using multisig:
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This can all be done in a way that doesn't let the service steal. You go to the service and say "I'm mixermember bob, here is an input of mine I want to anonomize, and here is a blinded token for you to sign". The service collects many such inputs during a round. Then randomly later, you unblind the signed token he gave you in step 1... and you return and say "I'm some anonymous guy with a signed token. Add this output". then once all the inputs and outputs for a round have been collected, the mix drafts single transaction that spends all the provided inputs to all the provided outputs and gives it back to all the parties to sign. If everone is happy with it (they've been paid as requested).. they sign. the mixer would enforce quantized output sizes. the accounts cost money to get thus my "I'm mixmember bob", and refusing to sign gets you banned.
I got this idea for anonymously sending bitcoins. Let's say I am A1 and I want to send to B1. Normally the blockchain would show up: A1 --(1 BTC)--> B1. My idea is to have a service where you collect up say 1000 people and make a random permutation so A1 sends to B425 and A2 sends to B213 etc.. that way the only thing you can tell from the blockchain is that A1 sent 1BTC to one of B1,B2,.. 1000 people!
To make it happen might have every transaction go through a central address M, so all the As send 1BTC to M then the bot M randomly distributes the bitcoins (it could also split them into parts and rejoin them). The main thing is a protocol using public and private keys to let people prove if M cheated, call Ms public key KM and A1s public key K1 etc.
So all the Ai's send a encrypted message to M which they sign using Ai containing an address containing the key Ki and Bi.
M then signs using it's PGP key and encrypts using Ki every address Bi and publishes all these to its site in red.. each Ai is then required to send 1BTC as confirmation that M published the correct information and that they have saved it locally, which makes it go green. After they are all green it performs the mix. If some Bi didn't get the bitcoin they can decrypt and publish the message that M posted, proving that M cheated.
To make it happen might have every transaction go through a central address M, so all the As send 1BTC to M then the bot M randomly distributes the bitcoins (it could also split them into parts and rejoin them). The main thing is a protocol using public and private keys to let people prove if M cheated, call Ms public key KM and A1s public key K1 etc.
So all the Ai's send a encrypted message to M which they sign using Ai containing an address containing the key Ki and Bi.
M then signs using it's PGP key and encrypts using Ki every address Bi and publishes all these to its site in red.. each Ai is then required to send 1BTC as confirmation that M published the correct information and that they have saved it locally, which makes it go green. After they are all green it performs the mix. If some Bi didn't get the bitcoin they can decrypt and publish the message that M posted, proving that M cheated.
hi, as a beginner who start today the adventure with Bitcoin have question, how it works? Is there any notification if you receive some BTC? If yes is it baloon or popup?
no, but Balance goes up, it can take a day for the change to happen!
issue resolved. Thanks to all the nice people. And thanks for exposing yourself as untrustworthy nasty people to all those who used this thread to tell me to end my life.
Oh you're so so welcome! We consider it a valuable service to have made your skin a little thicker. The world is, after all, a not-so-nice place and entitled thin-skinned folks like yourself haven't got an "immune system" so to speak to protect you from the true assholes out there. By being a milder version of such assholes, we build up your tolerance before the real douchebags get to you.
YOU'RE WELCOME.
I don't buy this self righteous rubbish, you're just trying to make yourself feel virtuous even though you did something bad.
Re: Isn't this whole bitcoin thing just a big scammers party?
I don't think it's totally crazy that someone would give away 1/10000th of a cent.
Why do you spend your electricity and time with trying to get 1/10000th of a cent anyway? Even the worst job in North Korea will earn you more in a minute than that.
Again, if you want coins, go and buy them.
I just wanted to try sending a coin between addresses and see it show up on the block chain :/
Re: Isn't this whole bitcoin thing just a big scammers party?
everywhere I look I see scam sites, untrustworthy people, hackers and pyramid schemes running riot,
isn't this whole bitcoin thing just a trap? I don't really see why you'd want to be part of it...
isn't this whole bitcoin thing just a trap? I don't really see why you'd want to be part of it...
Hey, you expect people that don't know you (and probably don't really care about you) to give you money in exchange for nothing?!
I don't think it's totally crazy that someone would give away 1/10000th of a cent.
I never been to a faucet site but I reckon these sites just want promote bitcoins and will have fixed payout limits, and yes, envtually will just shut down because their sick of rude emails from users that don't see cash immediatly.
It seems like YOU don't find that so far fetched either, despite your contradictory statement..
And if it doesn't work out immediately you think a conspiracy of the international scammer organization just made up bitcoin to make YOU waiting in front if your PC for free money?
it's not "immediately", I waited 24 hours, but yes I do think it's a "conspiracy" in the sense that together they say they'll do one thing and yet don't..
Oh yeah: OP: If you are going to take to heart what a bot on a irc channel said to you, well, c'mon just noose it up and be done with it.
It does upset me because everyone is being horrible to me, it's easy to say "just don't care about it" but how would you feel if everyone was ganging up against you saying things like this? And nobody in the channel seems to think it's bad to act this way towards people, so they laugh and join in. I just rejoined the chat now and they started telling me it right away before I even said anything. Just imagine how you'd feel.
There are two sides to every story. Here's the other half of this one.
You just took everything I said out of context...
No one cares, nice or not nice has nothing to do with anything here.
The attitude in here is horrible. BitcoinTalk is itself known for its general rudeness, but the IRC channel has been polite the last time I used it. I can't believe it has degenerated that much.Thank you.
And yes I do want nicecointalk (if people are nice there) but it doesn't exist..
I don't really care abotu bitcoins (although it is very interesting) I just wanted something fun to do and make friends.someone told him to stop now. But I don't think he will stop.
Run to the police, you can register a case of abatement for suicide, on the other hand are you serious? are you trying to increase your post count?
I'm not going to go to police or increase my postcount, but why doesn't anyone think this isn't a nice way to treat other people?
Re: Isn't this whole bitcoin thing just a big scammers party?
Yes it is a scam. Quickly uninstall bitcoin before it's too late! Luckily you are smart enough to discover the truth! 
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scam sites, untrustworthy people, hackers and pyramid schemes
Oh you mean the SAME things that exist with dollars or euros? why are forum members supporting the scams?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74046.0;all
is it just because they find it funny that people get tricked or what?
It is not just forum members but the forum itself!!!1 That is a part of the New to Bitcoin? Start here! thread!
You've exposed a major conspiracy my boy! Keep up the good work and you may be asked to work with Phinnaeus Gage. He is no doubt getting ready to start his next big attention grabbing witch hunt.
you're just continuing mocking me and trying to belittle me because one of the scam sites is yours..
What should you do? Are you joking?
someone told him to stop now. But I don't think he will stop.
on the #bitcoin IRC channel someone is abusing the bot to tell it to kill myself
http://i.imgur.com/xgjtq.png
what should I do?
http://i.imgur.com/xgjtq.png
what should I do?
Re: Isn't this whole bitcoin thing just a big scammers party?
The good news is the Bitcoin network itself has not been hacked in anyway yet.
The human factor (greed, ignorance, stupidity) is the reason of this scams, not bitcoin itself. It could have been done with dollars instead.
The human factor (greed, ignorance, stupidity) is the reason of this scams, not bitcoin itself. It could have been done with dollars instead.
Ah!!! It's just like real money then (don't know if that's good or bad
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