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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
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tigerbit
on 02/11/2013, 18:58:38 UTC
Why the delay:
CryptX has not paid me yet, that lead to me being unable to pay my contractors which then stopped production.
After a lot of back and forth i managed to convince them to finish the Job.
Cryptx didnt pay you till now... i dont see a reason why they should do this.

Uhm, what? You don't see a reason why CryptX should pay his debts? Can you elaborate?

Lost in translation I think...

Don't see a reason why he WOULD do this...
i.e. Unacceptable behavior

I meant i dont see why "they should do this"... meaning why they dont pay burnin all the time. I dont see a good reason for that.

That's what I meant. To a native English speaker in that context it still reads "why should they pay".  I knew you didn't mean this.
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
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tigerbit
on 02/11/2013, 12:10:46 UTC
Why the delay:
CryptX has not paid me yet, that lead to me being unable to pay my contractors which then stopped production.
After a lot of back and forth i managed to convince them to finish the Job.
Cryptx didnt pay you till now... i dont see a reason why they should do this.

Uhm, what? You don't see a reason why CryptX should pay his debts? Can you elaborate?

Lost in translation I think...

Don't see a reason why he WOULD do this...
i.e. Unacceptable behavior
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Re: Cairnsmore1 - Quad XC6SLX150 Board
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tigerbit
on 26/09/2013, 12:58:28 UTC
Well, unless my calculations are very much mistaken next difficulty update will be so long and thanks for all the fish time for my CM1s  Cry

With one more circa. 30% increase in difficulty I'll only just be covering my power costs @ £0.09926 per kWh including VAT @ 5%.

Well, the temperature will be dropping soon here in the UK - perhaps I'll redeploy them into a less friendly environment as a frost protection heater for the winter Grin
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Re: [Poll] Burnins BitFury miner
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tigerbit
on 20/09/2013, 14:21:18 UTC
P.S. I've got the CMR working on all 4 chips on linux, only to find windows doesn't work Tongue
... linux took me 3 rewrites of the the changes to get it working and understand how to handle that USB chip Smiley
I've been talking to one of the libusbx devs and hopefully have the windows issue resolved shortly.
The first commit to master git will be it hashing on all 4 fgpa - then I'll add the glasswalker extensions after that.
Just thought you'd like an update Smiley
Thanks! Will try this out.  It's just sad that due to lack of cooperation from Enterpoint it's taken this long for a benefactor to get one to you. 

Sadly, the CM1's are slipping underwater in terms of ROI vs. Power within the few difficulty updates.  Well, maybe someone will breathe life into them with an LTC implementation. Who knows.

Genuine thanks though for the effort.  I've been a critic, but you're true to your word re: active support on your terms and I respect that.  I guess all along my beef was with Enterpoint not supporting cgminer rather than vice versa.
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Re: Goliath Miner
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tigerbit
on 18/09/2013, 21:07:01 UTC
CM3 being Avalon based, right?  Or was that the super FPGA hybrid?

Is there even any interest in Avalon based options any longer?  Surely it's no longer viable.
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Re: [Poll] Burnins BitFury miner
by
tigerbit
on 15/09/2013, 23:23:18 UTC
Differences between €699 is and original price of €470 is probably distributor's margin mostly.
Those who think they will get their boards before early November, I suggest to think twice.
To those wanting to support burnin, you guys could always donate.
I am out and deleting my vote as conditions were changed.

I waited for long to buy a product from burnin and now seeing what was done, I can just feel sorry for the energy, time, effort and money of all people involved (including myself).

@burnin,
I do appreciate your work and effort, and if I may say; you shouldn't allow this to happen.
If distributor is to be blamed, get rid of them and do business with someone having more realistic view on market and with one willing to work with less margin.
If you can't find anyone, do it yourself or you will loose all these people waiting for your boards.
I am speaking this as a friend, and this is just a hobby for me to support network and get involved. Having said that and, I don't want to overpay what ever product I am buying and this one is too expensive for me and probably bad investment with price set way too high.


You said it better than me Smiley Same boat here!
+1
If the deal was exclusive, burnin has handed a monopoly to Cryptx and asic-hardware.com.  Cryptx already has his orderbooks from the bitburner - with the correct pricing this would have been a win-win-win for manufacturer-distributor-customer.

I hope this wasn't an exclusive deal and burnin may consider allowing the free market to dictate distributor pricing by stating minimum orders and terms of business for new distributorships.  Group buy anyone?  TBH unless anyone has volumes of Bitfury chips about to be shipped, it's almost academic and the monopoly will both prevail and likely fail (if that's even possible!), dragging burnin's reputation down with it.
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 15/09/2013, 22:23:07 UTC
i had the chips running at 4ghash in my test setup.
With a proper board more could be possible, more testing is needed.
And like i said the actual costs did increase.

Burnin I really respect your hard work and amount of time and energy you puted from the start on developing, but with all due respect this is a total rip-off, they have to work out their prices  for what is best for all parties, otherwise we are not going to do business with them  
Burnin, just a thought but isn't the answer here to let free market competition police the pricing?

Have you agreed exclusivity to CryptX or are you open to other distributors provided they can meet minimum volumes?
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Re: [CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution
by
tigerbit
on 02/09/2013, 09:47:21 UTC
Also, many of you fail to follow the refund process I introduced here, but instead are sending me PMs or just asking for refunds without providing the required data. To have at least a chance of processing them correctly,
please file refund requests over the given process.

And in case you were wondering:

Refund Process
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg3038356#msg3038356

Email only, follow link for details but very straightforward.

Format is:
username;chips;BTC;OriginalBitcoinAddress

Send email to the special address in the post linked above and use the address you registered on the chip distribution site for sending, otherwise you'll need to sign the refund request.  Don't forget the minus signs on the Chips & BTC fields!
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Re: [CLOSED] Avalon ASIC chip distribution
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tigerbit
on 29/08/2013, 15:51:07 UTC
@zefir - you're a star!  Your professionalism and diplomacy have paid dividends.

Just a question of when Bitsyncom will follow through.

How do you propose to move forward for those that request refunds?
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 12/08/2013, 12:34:20 UTC

Thanks for pointing this out. Thats not a good thing. One would need special PSU's that have different 12A-Outputs since a high wattage PSU with only 1 or 2 such channels used with Y-cables would hurt the miners when i understand it correctly.
Its a good thing i didnt buy more psu's yet but others might have bought wrong ones. Or is there a workaround for this?

You misunderstand.  The information you've been given here tells you to use solid copper wires Awg 12 or 14 to bridge the board terminals and not to exceed 20 amps between the connectors on the boards (240W).

If you stick to this, nothing you do with the PSU cabling can exceed these limits and damage the boards directly.  Of course, with such high loads if you aren't safe and wise its entirely possible to melt upstream connectors and cause a fire risk, or otherwise overload your PSU rails depending on its design.

@Burnin: If the tracks between connectors are rated 20amp does this mean the board can take its own requirements, say 8 amps plus passthrough a further 16 amps between the connectors, subject to not overloading the PCIe connector itself.
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Re: weird behavior
by
tigerbit
on 29/07/2013, 02:31:20 UTC
It looks like one of chips is not doing well.

What can I do now to diagnose or fix the problem? Thanks for any ideas.
Have you tried after following this start-up sequence?

  • stop mining software
  • disconnect CM-1 USB cable
  • disconnect USB hub cable to computer
  • power down CM-1
  • power down computer
  • power up / boot computer
  • power down USB hub
  • power up CM-1
  • wait until CM-1 fully stable (or, two solid minutes to be sure)
  • power up USB hub
  • connect USB hub cable to computer
  • connect CM-1 USB cable
  • start mining software

Yeah, it seems pretty nit-picky. But I've had that sequence resolve things for me before.
^^ that definitely helps, and if you're using the up/down cables with boards you might need more than one restart as the boards seem even more finicky when they're running master/slave.

Just a thought from a different angle - any telltale visual indicators from the boards?  What are the leds doing (predominately)?

Are you seeing any yellow leds when in routine running?  That might give a clue if the cause of your low hash rate is that the boards are starved of work and going idle.

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 29/07/2013, 02:24:17 UTC
Didnt know there are such problems... regarding raspbian... someone wrote that it can make problems too and suggested arch linux with the first link i posted.
Yes Arch current seems to have a working libusb (well it does for me - with my test program in the link below)
The Raspbian fix is to use a different libusb as I describe here (switching libusb for me goes from 'fail' to 'working'):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg2817682#msg2817682
It seems there are and there aren't problems with Raspbian depending on what you're using.  I run stock Raspbian with a locally compiled latest version of BFGminer for my CM1s and it runs for weeks uninterrupted, and except maybe 1 time the interruption is me restarting it to test or tweak something.  However, importantly this doesn't use libusb.

So, given that extended support for BitBurner voltage control is likely to be built into cgminer on kano's advice & experience I'm definitely going to look at a Arch linux / libusb/ cgminer build as an alternate.  Arch linux gets a bad rep amongst Pi'ers as being less user friendly - but it's just linux.  Don't fear it!

From what I've read about MinePeon - although it's got a lot of clever things added into the distro, I'd rather a clean stable stock distro with ssh, screen, and a quick init script to wake up my boards and launch my miner of choice.  Rock solid.
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 26/07/2013, 15:01:49 UTC
+1

I cannot understand those guys that critize and at the same time use the software and have no clue about the work that's behind.
Harsh. I do understand, but I just didn't like the attitude when initially submitting an innocent bug report / feature request.  No doubt kano is a talented dev that's doing a great job for the community along with ckolivas, but he's spiky.  There are other ways to get your point across without alienating people.

I'm nobody in the bitcoin world, but I still appreciate human decency and politeness.  Old fashioned, I know.
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 25/07/2013, 20:51:22 UTC
Hi SebastianJu, I'm not sure about how others get their BTC, but I've not been able to find a cheap way to buy them from the UK yet - maybe others have suggestions (via CurrencyFair??, this seems as though it would be slow though). I've had good experiences with bitstamp and their fees are quite reasonable, but we get ripped off by UK banks for the SEPA transfers and GBP-EUR exchange required to get funds to bitstamp. UK banks seem to have some special arrangement that enables them to ignore European agreements on SEPA transfers and so they charge large fees for this (mine charges a flat fee for each transfer that means only reasonably sizeable transfers make sense, otherwise the % charge may be several %). If you add on top of that the poor GBP-EUR exchange rates that the banks offer then it can easily cost 5% or more to buy BTC. Unfortunately very little of that goes to BTC-friendly causes, most goes straight to the bank Angry. It actually makes me quite angry that our banks can "opt-out" of the SEPA, but this is probably not the place for me to rant about this Grin.


Yes, we're veering off topic.  It can be done, very cheaply even in the UK.
Citibank UK EURO Current Account (Monthly fee about £8 or free if you push £1800 per month through it)
Transferwise (referral link) http://transferwise.com/u/6de1 to convert GBP into EUR (pretty much at the wholesale spot rate plus a couple of quid)
SEPA transfer from Citi EURO account to wherever (e.g. Bitstamp/Burnin) - FREE.

The downside is it takes about 5 days to get GBP into BTC, especially if I've not got a float in the EUR account.

Other UK alternative is Bitbargain https://bitbargain.co.uk/tutorial?r=tigerbit
Sometimes there are sellers that are selling close to MtGox bid price, but volumes are lower obviously.  More expensive, but safe and FAST - UK faster payments or Barclays PingIT mean transactions often take just a matter of minutes.
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 25/07/2013, 12:08:48 UTC
So ... burnin ... you gonna contact myself and ckolivas at some time to send us one each? Smiley
We support the hardware coz we have the hardware ...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=28402.msg2689800#msg2689800

Edit: oh and in case anyone was thinking of using an RPi (like I have and do use) make sure you use Arch not Raspbian
http://www.kano-kun.net/?p=87
Raspbian fails badly with USB1.1 devices.
Thanks for the clear tutorial for RPi - would have saved me a lot of time if I knew about it before!  I will check out Arch but I've actually been using stock Raspian with my CM1s and have no problems at all.

Unfortunately though due to this "unless you give us free hardware" policy I can no longer use cgminer with my CM1s so have had to switch camps to the BFGminer which remains open and cooperative with any hardware manufacturer.  I understand that you want to test hardware directly but many people have offered to debug, provide you whatever info you need, and even provide remote access to systems with miners - yet it seems you actually just want free hardware Sad  If that's your commercial model, then I get it - just wish I knew upfront before buying into cgminer.

CGMiner used to work like a dream, then they rewrote the USB stack and broke it (but is much more efficient for those it works for) - and now won't fix it because nobody gave kano a free CM1.  Cautionary tale  - other miners are available  ;-)



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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 24/07/2013, 22:45:52 UTC
I plan with 100W per board since one board used 94W at 450MHz and 1.3V. So its a bit space for more wattage need. I originally wanted to use smaller psu's with 600W but realized, when 40 miners match into one 2U-Rack of 750mm depth and they use 4000W then i would need a lot psu's. So better safe some space by using bigger ones. The price is peanuts when compared to the costs of the miners so i think saving money there is saved at the wrong point.

I searched for tests and found that this model is said to have very stable power supply, it was marked on of the best. So i think its a good choice. Or do you have other info?

Nothing specific, no.  I think Jonny couldn't test it as they didn't ship a US compatible version but it was described as being implemented as two 750W units back to back each with two 12V rails.  Multiple rails really isn't a bad thing if you load them correctly.  If I wanted that much power I'd look at actual twin PSUs which would give me some real redundancy.  You could probably pick up two top brand proven design PSUs Gold or Platinum rated around the 700-800W mark for around the same outlay.  The Thermaltake is quite a bit larger than standard PSU size, so you wouldn't lose as much space as you think.

It's your call!
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 24/07/2013, 21:07:56 UTC
where can I find a link or a list of PSU that don't require minimum load on 3.3V & 5V rails? google didn't helped:/

Try looking for a PSU that draws 3.3V and 5V from 12V rails, usually they will be marketed as 12V only PSU, DC-DC PSU, also a lot of PSU with single 12V rail will be in that group. Also all of those PSUs will be more expensive, that those requiring load on 3.3V and 5V, so you may consider buying cheaper PSU and powering with it a couple of fans, or an ethernet switch.

I never heard of this. You have to draw power from these lines?

All cheaper or older PSUs require that, if you do drain any power from those lines, 12V line may be unstable. Since all computers require some power from 3.3V and 5V, until few years ago it wasn't considered a problem. If you want to know more you can google for "one computer two PSUs", or something similar.


Check out your desired PSU (or whatever is available locally) here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/
This guy runs detailed load and regulation tests.  The tests you're interested in are the Crossload tests (particularly CL2 the 12V one) where he creates a maximal load on 12V or 5V and checks voltage regulation and ripple.  As has been pointed out, most top end high power PSUs don't actually require small loads, although the ATX specification says there should be one.

If you want to go cheap homebrew then you can always build this for <5 EUR.

Generates the min loads using power resistors on 3.3V & 5V to keeps a small stack of FPGAs running on a cheap 20EUR 460W PSU.  Mk II should see me running the Raspberry Pi and USB HUB off the 5V line so I can remove the 22Ohm resistor on the 5V rail that does get a bit warm.  Of course, my bitburners will be running off something like an Antec HCP 1200 that doesn't require the loads anyway - but it's two less plugs in the wall if I have the Pi and USB hub powered from the standby 5V, and I can even have an on off switch for the main load.

Biggest PSU isn't necessarily the best.  Most expensive, maybe.  Buy what you need - don't build in too much overhead on wattage.  You're better off spending the money on a decent branded PSU.  Personally I plan to load the 1200W Antec HCP or Corsair around 90-94% of max-rated 12V load.  Check out the tests at jonnyguru and it'll show you how these PSUs perform at varying loads.  Most often for a decent branded supply the efficiency at full load is pretty much within 1-2% of optimal - its when the PSU operates at lower loads the efficiency falls off a cliff.  btw - my logic is based on running 12 XX & 1 X with as much overclock as I can reasonably handle on air (planned for 90W per board).

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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
by
tigerbit
on 24/07/2013, 17:48:58 UTC
Has anyone got response from Burnin submitting contact form on his site?
https://www.burninmining.com/contact/

He must be busy, but it was long ago and still nothing.

You are not the only one. I placed my order successfully but didn’t receive any payment instructions.
I’m literally begging him to send me his SEPA bank account information, but no dice.

My chips are from Zefir’s batch #1, so at this point they will most likely arrive before my payment does. I’m starting to become a little miffed, to say the least.

PM sent with bank details from the order confirmation.
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
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tigerbit
on 22/07/2013, 20:39:18 UTC
I did try to do this but as it is now I think we have to complete an order to register..I could only see a "log in" option, no "register" so perhaps he'll need to change this first?
Registration is on the checkout page. You hit a checkmark and create a password.
Yeah but if you do it the other way around, and make the shop and checkout cart part of the "members" section.  Then that would almost certainly stop the shared cart problem.
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Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service
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tigerbit
on 22/07/2013, 20:30:36 UTC
Well that was hardly worth waking up at 4.30am for...same issues as everyone else.

Changing the site so we can create an account first & then go shopping might eliminate the shared cart issue??

^ THAT!

Bring the site back up, let us register but not checkout.  Then go for Take 2!