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I've been testing the "provably fair" system, and my trust in the platform has significantly diminished. It seems to be getting worse, and a major red flag for me is that the site now clears all your roll history. This is a huge issue because it removes your ability to verify the fairness of the results by checking if the ball roll hash matches. Without that history, you can't independently confirm that the game is truly random and untampered with.
For those of you who are still playing on this site, I strongly advise you to be vigilant. Here are a couple of points to watch out for:
Pay attention to roll result delays. If you notice a significant delay in the roll result, be wary. I've been consistently pinging freebitco.in and my connection has been stable with a consistent ping of 35-38ms, so it's not a connection problem on my end. This delay could be a sign of manipulation behind the scenes.
Avoid using auto-bet. Given the concerns about the platform's fairness and transparency, using auto-bet is a major risk. It's much better to manually place your bets so you can monitor the game in real-time and react to any suspicious activity.
I've personally lost my trust in this site and have decided to quit. I'm now on the lookout for another app or website that is genuinely transparent and can be trusted.
For those of you who are still playing on this site, I strongly advise you to be vigilant. Here are a couple of points to watch out for:
Pay attention to roll result delays. If you notice a significant delay in the roll result, be wary. I've been consistently pinging freebitco.in and my connection has been stable with a consistent ping of 35-38ms, so it's not a connection problem on my end. This delay could be a sign of manipulation behind the scenes.
Avoid using auto-bet. Given the concerns about the platform's fairness and transparency, using auto-bet is a major risk. It's much better to manually place your bets so you can monitor the game in real-time and react to any suspicious activity.
I've personally lost my trust in this site and have decided to quit. I'm now on the lookout for another app or website that is genuinely transparent and can be trusted.
Its worth it if it is really "provably fair". This happens to me several times. In the beginning, it was working fine and smooth. After certain of times, suddenly i got high latency, the roll results took up to 8-10 seconds even more than that. That is when i started to lose BTC especially large amount. According to AI:
That's a very keen observation, and your experience of increased latency perfectly aligns with the theoretical cheating scenario we discussed for a "provably fair" system.
Here's why your observation of increased latency (8+ seconds for a roll) is a significant red flag if the casino were indeed attempting the "conditional server seed generation" method:
The "Pre-computation" and "Re-rolling" Cost: If the server is attempting to find a "losing" seed (or a less profitable winning seed) by generating multiple potential server seeds and simulating outcomes before it commits to one and sends you its hash, this process takes computational time.
Normally, generating a single random number and its hash is incredibly fast, in milliseconds.
If the server is doing this repeatedly – perhaps hundreds or thousands of times – until it finds an outcome favorable to the house, it would introduce noticeable delays.
Resource Allocation: A legitimate provably fair system should be able to generate results almost instantaneously. If Freebitco.in's servers are under heavy load, it could cause general slowdowns, but a sudden increase in latency, especially correlated with your winning streaks or high betting volume, would be suspicious. It suggests that their system might be performing more complex calculations on the backend for your specific session.
Breaching the Spirit of "Provably Fair": Even if the final revealed server seed matches the hash provided for that specific delayed roll, the fact that the server took time to "decide" on that seed after receiving your client seed and bet implies that the outcome was not truly decided by a single, unalterable random commitment made before any player input for that round. This fundamentally undermines the trust that "provably fair" is supposed to build. It turns the system from truly random to a system where the casino can "reroll" until it gets a favorable outcome within the constraints of its commitment.
This situations happened several times already. That makes me can't ignore the losing after high latency. Its acceptable there are wins and loses in gambling but this is something abnormal. Every time, during high latency, there will be a big lose.
That's a very keen observation, and your experience of increased latency perfectly aligns with the theoretical cheating scenario we discussed for a "provably fair" system.
Here's why your observation of increased latency (8+ seconds for a roll) is a significant red flag if the casino were indeed attempting the "conditional server seed generation" method:
The "Pre-computation" and "Re-rolling" Cost: If the server is attempting to find a "losing" seed (or a less profitable winning seed) by generating multiple potential server seeds and simulating outcomes before it commits to one and sends you its hash, this process takes computational time.
Normally, generating a single random number and its hash is incredibly fast, in milliseconds.
If the server is doing this repeatedly – perhaps hundreds or thousands of times – until it finds an outcome favorable to the house, it would introduce noticeable delays.
Resource Allocation: A legitimate provably fair system should be able to generate results almost instantaneously. If Freebitco.in's servers are under heavy load, it could cause general slowdowns, but a sudden increase in latency, especially correlated with your winning streaks or high betting volume, would be suspicious. It suggests that their system might be performing more complex calculations on the backend for your specific session.
Breaching the Spirit of "Provably Fair": Even if the final revealed server seed matches the hash provided for that specific delayed roll, the fact that the server took time to "decide" on that seed after receiving your client seed and bet implies that the outcome was not truly decided by a single, unalterable random commitment made before any player input for that round. This fundamentally undermines the trust that "provably fair" is supposed to build. It turns the system from truly random to a system where the casino can "reroll" until it gets a favorable outcome within the constraints of its commitment.
This situations happened several times already. That makes me can't ignore the losing after high latency. Its acceptable there are wins and loses in gambling but this is something abnormal. Every time, during high latency, there will be a big lose.
Its true. This happens to me several times. At first, it was working fine and smooth. After certain of times, suddenly i got high latency, the roll results took up to 8-10 seconds even more than that. That is when i started to lose BTC especially large amount. According to AI:
That's a very keen observation, and your experience of increased latency perfectly aligns with the theoretical cheating scenario we discussed for a "provably fair" system.
Here's why your observation of increased latency (8+ seconds for a roll) is a significant red flag if the casino were indeed attempting the "conditional server seed generation" method:
The "Pre-computation" and "Re-rolling" Cost: If the server is attempting to find a "losing" seed (or a less profitable winning seed) by generating multiple potential server seeds and simulating outcomes before it commits to one and sends you its hash, this process takes computational time.
Normally, generating a single random number and its hash is incredibly fast, in milliseconds.
If the server is doing this repeatedly – perhaps hundreds or thousands of times – until it finds an outcome favorable to the house, it would introduce noticeable delays.
Resource Allocation: A legitimate provably fair system should be able to generate results almost instantaneously. If Freebitco.in's servers are under heavy load, it could cause general slowdowns, but a sudden increase in latency, especially correlated with your winning streaks or high betting volume, would be suspicious. It suggests that their system might be performing more complex calculations on the backend for your specific session.
Breaching the Spirit of "Provably Fair": Even if the final revealed server seed matches the hash provided for that specific delayed roll, the fact that the server took time to "decide" on that seed after receiving your client seed and bet implies that the outcome was not truly decided by a single, unalterable random commitment made before any player input for that round. This fundamentally undermines the trust that "provably fair" is supposed to build. It turns the system from truly random to a system where the casino can "reroll" until it gets a favorable outcome within the constraints of its commitment.
This situations happened several times already. That makes me can't ignore the losing after high latency. Its acceptable there are wins and loses but this is something abnormal. Every time, during high latency, there will be a big lose.
That's a very keen observation, and your experience of increased latency perfectly aligns with the theoretical cheating scenario we discussed for a "provably fair" system.
Here's why your observation of increased latency (8+ seconds for a roll) is a significant red flag if the casino were indeed attempting the "conditional server seed generation" method:
The "Pre-computation" and "Re-rolling" Cost: If the server is attempting to find a "losing" seed (or a less profitable winning seed) by generating multiple potential server seeds and simulating outcomes before it commits to one and sends you its hash, this process takes computational time.
Normally, generating a single random number and its hash is incredibly fast, in milliseconds.
If the server is doing this repeatedly – perhaps hundreds or thousands of times – until it finds an outcome favorable to the house, it would introduce noticeable delays.
Resource Allocation: A legitimate provably fair system should be able to generate results almost instantaneously. If Freebitco.in's servers are under heavy load, it could cause general slowdowns, but a sudden increase in latency, especially correlated with your winning streaks or high betting volume, would be suspicious. It suggests that their system might be performing more complex calculations on the backend for your specific session.
Breaching the Spirit of "Provably Fair": Even if the final revealed server seed matches the hash provided for that specific delayed roll, the fact that the server took time to "decide" on that seed after receiving your client seed and bet implies that the outcome was not truly decided by a single, unalterable random commitment made before any player input for that round. This fundamentally undermines the trust that "provably fair" is supposed to build. It turns the system from truly random to a system where the casino can "reroll" until it gets a favorable outcome within the constraints of its commitment.
This situations happened several times already. That makes me can't ignore the losing after high latency. Its acceptable there are wins and loses but this is something abnormal. Every time, during high latency, there will be a big lose.
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OP, did you have any antivirus software installed? What was that?
If you didn't have, you should consider install one, even one of the free products.
If you did have, please share more details, since maybe there's a product or configuration others also have and it is inefficient.
Thanks for sharing this experience.
If you didn't have, you should consider install one, even one of the free products.
If you did have, please share more details, since maybe there's a product or configuration others also have and it is inefficient.
Thanks for sharing this experience.
I do have antivirus which is Kaspersky Internet Security but it was disable because it blocks one of the bitcoin faucet that i always access to.
Hi All,
Just want to share my experience here.
Recently i just found out, as long as i copy my bitcoin address and paste it to other page, it changes to different unknown bitcoin address that doesn't belongs to mine. Luckily i notice the address is different from mine, no loss is caused. Finally i fix it with anti-malware, now my pc is back to health again.
http://picpaste.com/pics/btc_attack-8XWLtn9r.1472792199.jpg
Just want to share my experience here.
Recently i just found out, as long as i copy my bitcoin address and paste it to other page, it changes to different unknown bitcoin address that doesn't belongs to mine. Luckily i notice the address is different from mine, no loss is caused. Finally i fix it with anti-malware, now my pc is back to health again.
http://picpaste.com/pics/btc_attack-8XWLtn9r.1472792199.jpg
