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Re: Bounty for translations of the Bitcoin article in Wikipedia [upto 23 BTC]
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topi
on 01/05/2011, 10:05:50 UTC
List for addresses that did not get the reward for the translation of the Wikipedia article:

Finnish ( http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin ) - topi (tkanerva .at. gmail.com) : 19yHtsnBMZa478ThPkjpzdqrc7ftf8VbZb

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Re: Bounty for translations of the Bitcoin article in Wikipedia [upto 23 BTC]
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topi
on 25/04/2011, 22:04:24 UTC
I would also like to know whether the bounty is still running. I'd be happy to make an Afrikaans version.

No idea whether or not there's anybody paying bounties for translations anymore. I did a finnish translation two weeks ago, but haven't seen any bounty. But for me, it's more important to do my own contribution to the common good (i.e. spread the bitcoin gospel Smiley and an actual bounty would just be the icing on the cake Smiley

just my 0.02 cents.
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Re: Bounty for translations of the Bitcoin article in Wikipedia [upto 23 BTC]
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topi
on 19/04/2011, 22:39:24 UTC
Norwegian translation now up and running. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin
Wiki-username: Calle
Thanks in advance.

I looked at your translation and it seems it's a literal translation from the english article. I did the same thing - it would be very much a difficult task to create an altogether new version. But I can't judge the quality of your translation since I only speak swedish Smiley

let's wait and see if there are still any bounties available ...

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Re: Bounty for translations of the Bitcoin article in Wikipedia [upto 23 BTC]
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on 15/04/2011, 12:08:02 UTC
topi is working on Finnish: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin

Skimming through that translation, it is lacking external links section and categories.

I added External links and also the relevant categories that I found used in the articles of other sw pieces ... I think the article is now more or less useful for new entrants to Bitcoin, who don't have a good reading comprehension in English... That could include my mom. Smiley

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Re: Bounty for translations of the Bitcoin article in Wikipedia [upto 23 BTC]
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on 13/04/2011, 09:39:09 UTC
topi is working on Finnish: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin

Skimming through that translation, it is lacking external links section and categories.

Hi, it's true that I forgot to put on the external links altogether. Working on the small details makes one forget the larger ones Smiley

I added some own contributions at some places, I'll try to see if these spots could be better written on the original English article. Also, wikifying is important, to add some wiki links to various words and concepts. Work-in-progress Smiley

At least the amount of translations of the original article is slowly improving!
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Re: Getting the Bitcoin Wikipedia article to the Good or Featured category
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topi
on 12/04/2011, 14:38:21 UTC
As I said in the other thread the article is a bit messy as of now. It contains a lot of repetitions and the technology isn't explained very well imo. I don't think you get a very good understanding of what exactly a block is for instance, what it is that makes the system work and what it is that makes it secure. And tech isn't explained in very much detail. For instance: what encryption algorithms are used?

I also think that the article needs to push the economic aspects a bit more. Maybe even putting the 'Economics' block above the 'Technology' block. Right now my feeling from reading the article is that Bitcoin is all about people mining for coins and the use of bitcoins for trade being only second nature. Which might be true as of now to some extent but not the purpose of Bitcoin as a whole.

I've tried to change some of this for my Swedish article but it's hard when most of the sources used is about the tech. Hopefully this will change over time as Bitcoin matures and finds a larger user base.

Edit: Someone just commented on my translation that the lead paragraph doesn't explain the purpose of Bitcoin very well. This may also be true for the English article.

It's true that the first paragraph doesn't clearly state the purpose of Bitcoin. That might leave a couple of users quite perplexed Smiley

We need to restructure the original English article.

However, before I sit and think about it, I created a direct translation from the English page to create a Finnish version. In the current situation, there is no idea about how European Union might react to the existence of such currencies, so we must wait and see until further localization can be properly done. But the page now exists at http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin and basically contains the same pics and graphics as the english version.

I was, to be truthful, motivated by the 23 BTC translation award. Does anyone have excess btc to throw around? Smiley In that case, I receive donations at 1Dc97a2UDP4aUeTsynRFpNe9i4v7rqrJJy
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Re: Official Client Needs Easy-to-use Wallet Management
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topi
on 12/04/2011, 14:25:55 UTC
As someone who is new to Bitcoin, I totally agree that there should be an easier way to make sure my wallet is safe and secure.  Even on a Linux machine, the wallet is stored in the same location by default.  I do not like the idea of keeping my wallet on a USB stick; what if I lose it? Would it just be a copy of the wallet or the entire thing?

I think the idea of Wallet-on-USB-stick is perfectly valid for users who don't really understand the concept of a "virtual wallet", or file management for that matter. An Advanced user (or anyone who understands the implications and wants to back up his wallet onto another system for example) can just tick off the option in the program Preferences.

We need a wizard that would guide the novice user using the sw for the first time to allocate an empty 512MB-1GB USB stick for the purpose and label it "MY BITCOIN WALLET" and never lose it like they would not want to lose their physical wallets. The wizard would then format the thumb drive with a certain volume name, and that's how Bitcoin also identifies it as the Wallet.

I would - even though I consider myself an "expert user" - opt to use a USB drive instead of fooling around multiple copies of files around my machines. I'm usually more reliable in the physical world than in bits Wink ...and I could take my wallet file to my friend's computer and (supposing I trust him) could then use his computer to do transactions.

just my 2 bitcents.
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Re: Official Client Needs Easy-to-use Wallet Management
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topi
on 11/04/2011, 12:21:39 UTC
It takes time for developers to discuss change and figure out what's the best way to do things.

I understand that encryption details might need a discussion, but a wallet load/save feature seems like it should have been there from the beginning. I'm a developer too, and I would consider wallet handling critical priority. I'm just curious if something like this is even in the pipeline is all.

I'm inclined to think that having multiple Wallet files around creates just more confusion. At least I find it incredibly difficult managing all my wallet backups in an orderly manner Wink However, the novice user and computer illiterate *must* be taken into account. I think the best place for a 'wallet' would be on a USB stick. The novice user would dedicate an old, small 256 MB memory stick for this usage, the Bitcoin software would have a Preferences choice "Keep Wallet on a USB key" that the user could check. In my opinion, "Import" or "export" would just confuse the novice user, because then they would need to form mental images to differentiate something "inside" the computer from something they just created with Bitcoin. uh oh.

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Re: The Bitcoin Manifesto
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topi
on 11/04/2011, 11:33:53 UTC
We're talking about some powerful groups that would be losing a lot of money.

More like they just don't wanna invest in the idea. If I were Goldman Sach, I would invest in bitcoin for a chance of several thousand percent in return.

"Invest" is the kind of word that the flow capitalism uses. We, as hackers, know, that it's possible to create complex software even without any outside investment at all.

Now, what Bitcoin needs to show the world, is that there are alternatives in hoarding capital and creating megaprojects with huge investments. Centralized investments lead to centralized projects which lead to centralized management (and often incompetent, as in the case of Fukushima).

just my 2 bitcoin-cents