Why did the government have paycoin?

So I was looking st the coinfire article with the Search Warrant on it and something just doesn't look right.  I found this download http://www.uscourts.gov/uscourts/FormsAndFees/Forms/AO093.pdf and noticed that all the fill it in yourself boxes are the ones that are redacted. Maybe because they contained important info, or maybe they contained nothing.

I think this needs a little more investigation as anyone could have downloaded and filled this out.  Plus, it is and Under Seal document, which 1, is illegal to "leak" and 2, a person that publishes leaked information that clearly states "Under Seal" can be prosecuted.  I say can, because I have looked up a few cases of journalists getting fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for doing just that.  

I'm not sticking up for GAW by any means, but as I said this document doesn't seem right to me.  

To be fair I dosclose that I do have some (very little) paycoin, not enough that it's going to break me if it fails or make me rich if it succeeds.  For now I am just riding this wave and enjoying it from both sides, but mainly this side.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/33152/calling-all-paycoin-supporters-esp-with-legal-counsel-experience

These guys have to be on the payroll. I threw up a little bit in my mouth reading that thread. Gaw could be ffing their wives right in front of them and they would ask Gaw if he needed more KY.

yes, that I admitted when I said "this is probably over my head"
maybe i'll get to do more research when I have enough time...maybe when my kids turn 6-8 years old and let me breathe (the third one is about -7 days old), so it will take a while

this is probably over my head...but isn't that basically the same as solving a block? or not because solving a block is an approximation and for the KDIM we would need the exact key?

Does a legendary thread like this one exist for the LTC Gear stuff? I might have Leo start looking in to that whole situation and seeing what turns up.

Wow it's been a busy week! I've been communicating with sources internal to GAW and the outlook is grim. There is apparently a LOT of tension within the company as basically all staff currently want to see Josh gone just as bad as we do. There is even talk of a takeover from within trying to remove Josh from his position. The entire contents of this post have been learned from verified sources within the company.

According to internal sources, GAW is running out of money! Apparently they are having to sell BTC and XPY on a daily basis just to afford to make payroll! That's a bit scary, not to mention, surely not healthy for the XPY market. Doesn't that drive the value down when the creator is selling it off just to keep a sinking ship afloat?

Even more pressing than their money situation is the fact that their primary corporate bank has terminated their accounts. They were issued a 30 day notice last month stating that the bank had decided to terminate the relationship and insisted that they vacate the accounts as soon as possible. To make matters worse, apparently a C-Level employee of the company had their own personal accounts shut down only days later and told that he was now on the anti-money laundering watch list.... Things are starting to unravel folks.

I've also learned that GAW's primary Bitcoin holder, BitGo, has terminated their relationship with the company but I wasn't told why. They were given much less than 30 days to vacate all bitcoin holdings from BitGo. I think it's safe to assume it's for the same reasons as the USD bank, but who's to say? Kudos BitGo.

Lastly, I've been shown significant evidence that Garza went so far as having an affair with one of his employees last year and firing her once it ended. I even learned she may have been pregnant at the time he fired her! I usually would've disregarded this as not relevant, but I do think it fits in with the bigger picture of a deceitful, dishonest crook that needs to pay for what he's done. Once I am given more solid proof on the details of the affair, I will report it.

+1

Don't bother posing questions that will simply allow him to waffle on about how the big bad 'legal' department ruined his dreams, or that there was a concerted conspiracy to destroy his 'legitimate cryptocurrency business which would have cured the world of [insert ailment here]'

Try for things like, "Why have you repeatedly made absolutely false claims towards your altcoin clone having cutting-edge innovative tech, when it is just a regular Proof-of-Stake coin and that an analysis of the Github has shown repeated pushes of code which had minor cosmetic changes removed and then replaced, as though to imply that there was regular development work being done on it?"

Thanks for the link.

Looks like this Huey guy has got shafted more than anyone.



So this guy paid $2,500,000 for his prime controller which is now worth $125,000.

To add insult to injury he doesn't even get the same 1% daily stake rate as GAW. (35 times lower)

https://hashtalk.org/topic/30380


Translation:

We are trying to meet our self-imposed deadline for the Honors Program but likely the signup page will be late and buggy, plus we are wasting time implementing some features nobody asked for.

PaySave, PayCard, PayFlash - nothing going on here, since we have "all hands on desk" (sic) for the Honors Program and also due to our "complacency".

Paycoin value is "rapidly moving" in the wrong direction despite the buyback promise, but let's pretend that is actually a good thing.

We'll signup a few shill accounts with Premier and have them post exiting news about all the new features.

And since most of our developers left we are hoping Team Paycoin will save us from ourselves.

I know people from Hashtalk read this thread & I just wanted to post this. I had purchased physical miners from GAW over the summer & later had a couple of Hashlets, which I sold shortly after. I have been following this whole thing from the start, when the Hashlets that will always be profitable started paying people a fraction of a cent. I have no money tied up in GAW now, but I have witnessed this whole thing unfold like the rest of you. I don't care about XPY either way & have tried to be as objective as humanly possible. I am no seasoned investor, but if there was money to be made from GAW, XPY or mining, I would be in.

First, even if we were to ignore a lot of the events pre-XPY launch. The non existent miners, the secrecy of GAW, Josh's previous failed ventures from before GAW Miners, etc.. The $20 floor, regardless of the excuses, blame & backpeddling by Josh was a huge clusterfuck. Let's assume he had the best of intentions, to later say he was unaware of the legality of manipulating the market, that people misunderstood his postings & it's the fault of dumpers & a coordinated effort by XPY haters. Have any of you asked yourselves, which excuse is the correct one? How do you have any faith whatsoever after such a huge display of incompetence by a company? Seriously, try to take a look at the $20 floor fiasco from the perspective of someone not invested with GAW, step outside your biased GAW box for a moment & be honest with yourselves. The whole $20 floor thing is just ridiculous & that alone should be enough for you to get out of XPY & run from this company. But you stay & cheer this guy on?

Then, after the $20 floor fell through & people started asking questions, Josh challenges another respected industry insider to a public debate, only to turn around & say 'let's have an email debate'? Then he goes to BTC Miami with a promise to hold a Q&A, then abruptly cancels. Sure he had an excuse for cancelling, like always, then why not an online Q&A a few days later? You surely can't be buying the excuse that he is too busy developing features, but has the time to visit Tesla, post on his forums & do seminars for his church, can you? Why are none of you XPY holders saying WTF & DEMANDING he do this debate or an open Q&A? After all, since you all cheer Josh along every step of the way & have such faith in Josh's vision & this coin, Josh would surely come out of any debate victorious, right? An Honest Q&A would surely sooth investors, no? If Josh's promises of features with no ETA is enough to pump this coin up by 25-50 cents, a debate where he came out victorious would surely pump this coin a lot more, no? Why are you not on Josh to have this debate? How could you all be cheering this guy on? I don't get it. Not to mention that Josh was a no show for the mining panel. What an unprofessional thing to do at a conference he himself was a sponsor for.

To you Hashtalk members lurking here. How in the hell do any of you who hold XPY manage to still believe in this coin, let alone defend Josh or GAW as a company? How do you manage to still have hope that this coin will turn around? How do you put any stock in any statements from Josh whatsoever? What I, as well as all of you, have witnessed just blows my mind. His forum posts are sad & pathetic. The promises of features that never materialize, saying they have contracts when they do not & playing semantics with their words is just over the top. I had to agree to the TOS when signing up for BCT, but for me to go around telling people I have an agreement with BCT would just be stupid. Well that is what Josh did with Gyft & others. I suppose you can blame coinfire or other bad press, but the shit has been hitting the fan with XPY long before those articles. Josh's latest statements where he acts like GAW is a huge company that has no obligation to respond, like he & the company are taking the high road is just nonsense. Can you not see this?

When I hear GAW & Josh will not prove they have investors or holdings & they don't feel they should dignify their detractors with a response, I think of the recent McDonalds video. Now McDonalds is a huge company, with tons of money. They have a product that everone knows is unhealthy for you, yet they still have tons of people buy their food daily & are hugely successful. Recently, when McDonalds took a beating in the press about their manufacturing process & how they source ingredients, how did they respond? They could have said we are too big to respond, big companies don't need to respond to stuff like this. But instead McDonalds turned around & put out a video showing exactly how they manufactured their food. How is it that McDonalds can respond to slanderous articles without merit, yet GAW can not? That's right GAW is too big of a company & according to Josh, that is not how big companies operate. Tell that to McDonalds.

Now, I am reading posts at HT where Josh can joke about Coinfire's misfortunes, ask members for legal help, despite having hired a great law firm days ago, but can't post & answer peoples questions in the Paybase buyback thread? These are the people who still have faith & invested in his vision. But he can't monitor the buyback thread & answer simple questions? Seriously? The buyback is what the GAW faithful really care about, but Josh is silent. Are you people really going to send him your XPY? Do you really believe you will get your money back? I AM JUST ASTOUNDED! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

I think its fair

I love what you have said here. But I can Guarentee Homero did not by Paycoingateway.com.. If he did i would not be working on it 24/7 all by my self. The reason why i built the platform was due to no one else was going to push something. So why not take a stab at Getting some of the XPY that was floating around. And Well it's kinda working out. He did help me get to Miami. Which was very cool of Gaw to do. But i was not wanting them to help me they just did it. Please don't talk bad about my venture. I am just producing a need in a space that does not have it.

Interesting, Commander-in-Thief has stated that Paybase is an entirely separate company from GAW:

http://i.imgur.com/IeLodUB.png

Like I said before - this could be the catch in Garza's statement that a 3rd party would handle escrow.

Paybase issues the buyback, GAW holds the coins. There's your third party.