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Torservers was one of the first to accept Bitcoin, now finally Tor follows (via Bitpay): https://blog.torproject.org/blog/announcement-tor-project-now-accepting-bitcoin-donations
Please understand that Tor is not as well-funded as many people think. It is crucial for a lot of activities online. Most of you will know it:
So, you can now donate to Tor to strengthen development, and to us (Torservers) to strengthen the Tor network itself. Whoohoo!
Please understand that Tor is not as well-funded as many people think. It is crucial for a lot of activities online. Most of you will know it:
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Tor is free software and an open network that helps you defend against traffic analysis, a form of network surveillance that threatens personal freedom and privacy, confidential business activities and relationships, and state security.
Tor protects you by bouncing your communications around a distributed network of relays run by volunteers all around the world: it prevents somebody watching your Internet connection from learning what sites you visit, and it prevents the sites you visit from learning your physical location.
Tor protects you by bouncing your communications around a distributed network of relays run by volunteers all around the world: it prevents somebody watching your Internet connection from learning what sites you visit, and it prevents the sites you visit from learning your physical location.
So, you can now donate to Tor to strengthen development, and to us (Torservers) to strengthen the Tor network itself. Whoohoo!
Hi! Thanks for the endorsement. I'm also travelling to a lot of conferences around privacy (mostly within Europe), I'm happy to meet up.
One more comment: Yes, make sure you reach the right website! You should use HTTPS at all times: https://www.torservers.net/donate.html
The current certificate's SHA1 fingerprint is E8:8A:0F:3D:B6:80:A6:62:29:5F:6C:94:C2:33:E9:01:39:87:DD:DE. We will soon replace it with a wildcard certificate, also from StartSSL.
We're on twitter, and we have a low-volume mailing list.
One more comment: Yes, make sure you reach the right website! You should use HTTPS at all times: https://www.torservers.net/donate.html
The current certificate's SHA1 fingerprint is E8:8A:0F:3D:B6:80:A6:62:29:5F:6C:94:C2:33:E9:01:39:87:DD:DE. We will soon replace it with a wildcard certificate, also from StartSSL.
We're on twitter, and we have a low-volume mailing list.
Sorry if this has been posted before, the search function of the forum fails me. I haven't even had the time to look at it more closely, but I figured it might be interesting to see it discussed in this forum. The French discussions about it are said to be of interest, maybe Google Translate is good enough for them.
"John Boik, founder of Principled Societies, http://www.principledsocietiesproject.org/ , is running computer simulations on his Token Based System currently. His book is available for free download at his website."
http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_UDC
"OpenUDC aims to define a set of open protocols and standards to exchange new currencies, and to provide a free software implementation of them.
UDC means Universal Digital Currencies or Universal Dividend Currencies. Both definitions are fair since a currency in line with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights HAVE TO apply the Universal Dividend.
The OpenUDC project has a theoretical reference to the Théorie Relative de la Monnaie (TRM) which can be read to understand why OpenUDC uses Universal Dividend Money System.
The Universal Monetary Dividend as defined in the TRM is more precise than the Basic income as it specifies where the money comes from, how it is created, and why so. But the TRM is not a technical description of how such a money system can be developed concretely, and so the choices of OpenUDC technical tools are totally independent of the TRM.
OpenUDC implementations allow human members to exchange in a spirit of equity, digital goods and services in space, between members, and time, between members and future members."
"John Boik, founder of Principled Societies, http://www.principledsocietiesproject.org/ , is running computer simulations on his Token Based System currently. His book is available for free download at his website."
http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_UDC
"OpenUDC aims to define a set of open protocols and standards to exchange new currencies, and to provide a free software implementation of them.
UDC means Universal Digital Currencies or Universal Dividend Currencies. Both definitions are fair since a currency in line with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights HAVE TO apply the Universal Dividend.
The OpenUDC project has a theoretical reference to the Théorie Relative de la Monnaie (TRM) which can be read to understand why OpenUDC uses Universal Dividend Money System.
The Universal Monetary Dividend as defined in the TRM is more precise than the Basic income as it specifies where the money comes from, how it is created, and why so. But the TRM is not a technical description of how such a money system can be developed concretely, and so the choices of OpenUDC technical tools are totally independent of the TRM.
OpenUDC implementations allow human members to exchange in a spirit of equity, digital goods and services in space, between members, and time, between members and future members."
Hi!
Nice work. Can you add us to your site?
Torservers.net
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Tor is a free software that helps people from totalitarian states with censored Internet to access the Internet anonymously and uncensored. It is estimated to have over 500,000 daily users. Tor needs people to share their bandwidth and run relays and so-called "exit nodes". Torservers.net will use the money donated to run high bandwidth Tor exit nodes.
Nice work. Can you add us to your site?
Torservers.net
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Tor is a free software that helps people from totalitarian states with censored Internet to access the Internet anonymously and uncensored. It is estimated to have over 500,000 daily users. Tor needs people to share their bandwidth and run relays and so-called "exit nodes". Torservers.net will use the money donated to run high bandwidth Tor exit nodes.
Re: Bitcoin & Gresham's Law - the economic inevitability of Collapse
abuse.ch: How Big is Big? Some Botnet Statistics
about.com: Botnets
Even if all coins were mined by botnets, it does not directly lead to collapse. You have to read the paper though to understand why the authors claim this.
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When Ive started to sinkhole this botnet I was shocked as I saw that more than 1,2 million (yes, 1200000) unique IPs connected to my sinkhole just within 24 hours.
about.com: Botnets
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According to a study by McAfee, "at least 12 million computers around the world (are) compromised by botnets."
Even if all coins were mined by botnets, it does not directly lead to collapse. You have to read the paper though to understand why the authors claim this.
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Several things happen: (a) incentives for easy money naturally cause an increase in criminal participation at all levels, such as direct theft of bitcoins. This increase across the board encourages (b) honest users to pack up and leave. Both of these effects combine to create rising criminality, and (c) at some stage the Feds get involved. Finally, (d) the system collapses.
Bitcoin & Gresham's Law - the economic inevitability of Collapse
Bitcoin & Gresham's Law - the economic inevitability of Collapse
Philipp Güring & Ian Grigg
October-December 2011
Abstract. The Bitcoin economy exhibits remarkable and predictable stability on the supply side based on the power
costs of mining. However, that stability is challenged if cost-curve assumption is not solely expressed by the fair cost
of power. As there is at least one major player, the botnets, that can operate at a power-cost-curve of zero, the result
is a breach of Gresham's Law: stolen electricity will drive out honest mining. This has unfortunate effects for the
stability of the Bitcoin economy, and the result is inevitable collapse.
http://iang.org/papers/BitcoinBreachesGreshamsLaw.pdf
Philipp Güring & Ian Grigg
October-December 2011
Abstract. The Bitcoin economy exhibits remarkable and predictable stability on the supply side based on the power
costs of mining. However, that stability is challenged if cost-curve assumption is not solely expressed by the fair cost
of power. As there is at least one major player, the botnets, that can operate at a power-cost-curve of zero, the result
is a breach of Gresham's Law: stolen electricity will drive out honest mining. This has unfortunate effects for the
stability of the Bitcoin economy, and the result is inevitable collapse.
http://iang.org/papers/BitcoinBreachesGreshamsLaw.pdf
Domains are lke any other piece of rare property.
With the same argument, people speculate on food and let other people die. Just because something is a rare property, it does not mean it is morally acceptable to block it and not even require it or use it. On the contrary.
Scorn, envy and resentment are usually indicators that your domains worth something.
I could not care less about this specific list of domains.
And OP's point that grabbing up Bitcoins for speculation is spot on. Bitcoins, like domain names, are scarce property. If you think they're more valuable than current market rates, you have every right to acquire them, nothing wrong with it at all.
If you've ever filled up your gas tank on a certain day because you thought oil prices were due to rise, you've done exactly the same thing as the domain grabber. All humans speculate, and good thing we do.
If you've ever filled up your gas tank on a certain day because you thought oil prices were due to rise, you've done exactly the same thing as the domain grabber. All humans speculate, and good thing we do.
Your comparisons are completely off. Bitcoins and oil are interchangeable. Domain name squatting is comparable to getting up early to block the best lounge chairs on the beach, then go home and sleep and decide not to use them at all.
Re: Torservers - Free Anonymous Uncensored Internet for Everyone
You can see the number of our servers at http://www.torservers.net/services.html#servers
@bitanarchy: See https://blog.torproject.org/blog/two-incentive-designs-tor for some discussion on that. You really don't want to turn the Tor network into a capitalist system, especially when those affected by censorship are usually the people without money. We at torservers think that it is a great way for everyone who has money to support those that don't. We do not use Tor ourselves, because we live in western societies that already protects most of the properties we want to provide for everyone (protection of free speech etc).
@bitanarchy: See https://blog.torproject.org/blog/two-incentive-designs-tor for some discussion on that. You really don't want to turn the Tor network into a capitalist system, especially when those affected by censorship are usually the people without money. We at torservers think that it is a great way for everyone who has money to support those that don't. We do not use Tor ourselves, because we live in western societies that already protects most of the properties we want to provide for everyone (protection of free speech etc).
Re: Torservers - Free Anonymous Uncensored Internet for Everyone
Hi!
We are still alive and kicking! If you're interested in our progress, check out my twitter account at http://www.twitter.com/torservers or the mailing list archive at http://www.freelists.org/archive/torservers/ .
The financial authorities should accept us as a charitable non-profit organization soon, we have been donated one 100 mbit/s and two 40mbit/s servers by ISPs, we have found someone who donates the incredible amount of 100 monthly, and we're heavily working on finding a really good partner for Tor exit node hosting - which isn't as easy as it seems, we want to get good bandwidth (500 Mbit/s to a Gbit), and that cheap, and most ISPs reject Tor on their network
We are still happy to accept Bitcoin donations of course! At the moment I have ~1000 BTC, and in September as you know I sold 2000 BTC for 100 Euro. If only I had kept it! A Bitcoin address to donate is listed at http://www.torservers.net/donate.html#anonymous .
If you want to know anything else, I'm happy to chat about it. My Jabber details are on the site.
We are still alive and kicking! If you're interested in our progress, check out my twitter account at http://www.twitter.com/torservers or the mailing list archive at http://www.freelists.org/archive/torservers/ .
The financial authorities should accept us as a charitable non-profit organization soon, we have been donated one 100 mbit/s and two 40mbit/s servers by ISPs, we have found someone who donates the incredible amount of 100 monthly, and we're heavily working on finding a really good partner for Tor exit node hosting - which isn't as easy as it seems, we want to get good bandwidth (500 Mbit/s to a Gbit), and that cheap, and most ISPs reject Tor on their network
We are still happy to accept Bitcoin donations of course! At the moment I have ~1000 BTC, and in September as you know I sold 2000 BTC for 100 Euro. If only I had kept it! A Bitcoin address to donate is listed at http://www.torservers.net/donate.html#anonymous .
If you want to know anything else, I'm happy to chat about it. My Jabber details are on the site.
Re: Torservers - Free Anonymous Uncensored Internet for Everyone
Yes, I am very proud of the Bitcoin community to support this project with that amount!
Just a quick update: Sorry, I haven't yet found the time to work on listing the donations properly. Bear with me! I am working on this alone at the moment, and have been busy talking to people about getting the association registered, and my number one priority was to get the Tor nodes working (which turned out to be harder than I thought). There's a lot going on behind the scenes in regard to monitoring etc, I want to put it all on the site once it's done. If you want to help out with anything, let me know (my jabber nick, email etc is on the contact page).
I am also proud to be able to announce that we have tweaked our major server to finally reach an average of 320 MBit/s of Tor traffic as you can see from its stat at http://us1.torservers.net/ . That's exactly what the current plan is covering, and with the most famous and stable exit node "blutmagie" ceasing operation in 2011, it looks like we 'hit the market' just at the right moment.
If you want to meet and missed the event in Dresden, I will be at the Netzpolitische Kongress in Berlin from 12-13th November.
Just a quick update: Sorry, I haven't yet found the time to work on listing the donations properly. Bear with me! I am working on this alone at the moment, and have been busy talking to people about getting the association registered, and my number one priority was to get the Tor nodes working (which turned out to be harder than I thought). There's a lot going on behind the scenes in regard to monitoring etc, I want to put it all on the site once it's done. If you want to help out with anything, let me know (my jabber nick, email etc is on the contact page).
I am also proud to be able to announce that we have tweaked our major server to finally reach an average of 320 MBit/s of Tor traffic as you can see from its stat at http://us1.torservers.net/ . That's exactly what the current plan is covering, and with the most famous and stable exit node "blutmagie" ceasing operation in 2011, it looks like we 'hit the market' just at the right moment.
If you want to meet and missed the event in Dresden, I will be at the Netzpolitische Kongress in Berlin from 12-13th November.
Re: Torservers - Free Anonymous Uncensored Internet for Everyone
As an estimate, I think I have received roughly 5000 BTC.
At the moment, the three servers are administrated by myself. I have several people who offer to help with this, but I want to get the foundation in place and "contracts" for administrators. The group of administrators will be close friends of mine to make sure I can rely on them. Ideally, in the future the foundation will be managed by people who don't have access to any of the servers, which makes the process more transparent once they are contacted to help with "more serious cases of abuse".
We will automate and document the process of administration and installation of Tor nodes. For me, one of the most important aspects is to publish everything, so that other people can benefit from our experience. The number of abuse cases for most Tor exits today is unknown, and to have definite numbers (in combination with the throughput) published, and have some scripts to help with that, can be very helpful to both researchers and node operators.
At the moment, the three servers are administrated by myself. I have several people who offer to help with this, but I want to get the foundation in place and "contracts" for administrators. The group of administrators will be close friends of mine to make sure I can rely on them. Ideally, in the future the foundation will be managed by people who don't have access to any of the servers, which makes the process more transparent once they are contacted to help with "more serious cases of abuse".
We will automate and document the process of administration and installation of Tor nodes. For me, one of the most important aspects is to publish everything, so that other people can benefit from our experience. The number of abuse cases for most Tor exits today is unknown, and to have definite numbers (in combination with the throughput) published, and have some scripts to help with that, can be very helpful to both researchers and node operators.
Re: Torservers - Free Anonymous Uncensored Internet for Everyone
Thanks. Yes, we will start a foundation for it. I am sorry that I haven't been all good about publishing each single donation and the costs more clearly on the website yet, but this will definitely happen. The current cost is $201 every month for the 100tb.com server, as you can also see on their website. The rest of the costs (hosting, domain name, etc) are not included as I'm covering for them. I will eventually add them to the list of expenses and at the same time add that money as donations from me to make it all transparent.
Especially for Bitcoin donations I'm behind publishing, sorry! The time I can spend on Torservers is limited, and so far most of time went into answering abuse and setting it all up. I'm still not happy with the setup as we should push more than the current amount of data, and that's my priority right now.
If you want to stay up to date, you are invited to join our mailinglist (very low volume) or follow us on twitter @torservers
Thanks for your faith! I will be speaking on a conference in Dresden in two weeks, if you happen to be German, feel free to come by!
Especially for Bitcoin donations I'm behind publishing, sorry! The time I can spend on Torservers is limited, and so far most of time went into answering abuse and setting it all up. I'm still not happy with the setup as we should push more than the current amount of data, and that's my priority right now.
If you want to stay up to date, you are invited to join our mailinglist (very low volume) or follow us on twitter @torservers
Thanks for your faith! I will be speaking on a conference in Dresden in two weeks, if you happen to be German, feel free to come by!