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Re: Get Trading Signals for BTC & ETH from an Artificial Intelligence. For FREE?
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treetrunk
on 04/11/2019, 06:08:59 UTC
If AI is really great, everyone will want a signal from it. but I have a question, which signals do AI trading Signals use and which models to determine the next trend of the market?
Besides, to be more effective, you should add details about the going down or going up. For example, where should we stop and when is the profit target.

I believe the signal you used to be is the scammy signal posted on telegram channel which an admin determines a coin that has a potential pump/dump then set a buy and sell target price.
That signal is the literal scam signal for crypto. The one that posted above is signal which will notify people if a certain coin/token price is down/up if ever it reaches a certain price percentage changes.
This kind of signal is good so that traders will be aware of what token is good to buy for the current market condition. This is just a GUIDE for traders since we human are not always active 24/7 and
we are not aware all the time on what's happening in crypto.

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This is just my assumption based on the data available on the OP. This also what I know about the AI trading signal since I'm a fan of Rialto.ai project before they terminate their service.  Smiley


Exactly. It's just a guide for users to understand market sentiments. They only offer for BTC & ETH markets so I don't see the point of it being 'scammy' + it's free and opensource. See their code here: http://github.com/hype-ecosystem/. They configured an existing AI prediction bot which was good for stock markets called Genotick.

It can be 'unreliable' for sure as nothing can be guaranteed with crypto markets. But to call it a 'scam' is just far out ridiculous lol

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Re: Get Trading Signals for BTC & ETH from an Artificial Intelligence. For FREE?
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treetrunk
on 04/11/2019, 02:02:02 UTC
I'd rather do it myself tbh. That or create my own AI. Its pretty hard to trust these kinds of things after all. No matter the results or process it could do and would do, Trust is the basic foundation for everything, especially when it comes to talks about money. Plus its in beta? why would we risk our hard-earned money to use something in the works then?

It's free. It's open source. So why not? if we are a smart trader we can make our own decisions on top of these predictions lol
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Re: Long Term VS Daily Trading
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treetrunk
on 03/11/2019, 09:12:29 UTC


Daily trading with crypto requires you to give in 100% of your day. If you have another job, I suggest to just HODL long term.

The best strategy would be to just buy and forget.   Roll Eyes
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Get Trading Signals for BTC & ETH from an Artificial Intelligence. For FREE?
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treetrunk
on 03/11/2019, 09:05:58 UTC


This post has been brought from beta.cent.co from user: hypetoken.

I do not own any of these materials. Just wanted to share this free-for-all service I found.



AI TRADING SIGNALS
This service initially started as an exclusive subscription-based service for HYPE Community members. However, we have decided to make this free-for-all as we are determined to transform our ecosystem into an open-source & free-for-all system.

AI Trading Signals are just one part of the many ecosystem platforms/services supporting the HYPE project. Learn more about the Ecosystem HERE.

Please note that this service will stay in a BETA phase until the end of 2019. Telegram Messenger is a requirement to use this service as all signals are sent via a channel on the app.

The AI bot sends signals every 1 hour for BTC-USD & ETH-USD markets. You can either subscribe on Telegram (https://t.me/AI_CryptoTradingSignals) or subscribe to our Twitter (https://twitter.com/aicryptoSignal) to receive the hourly signals (NOTE: 24hr chart is only provided on the Telegram Channel).

HOURLY SIGNAL EXAMPLE



DAILY CHART SIGNAL EXAMPLE
Every 24 hours, the AI bot will create a chart for you to compare the day’s signals on top of the actual traded prices.





WHY AI?


Artificial Intelligence revolution is upon us. Self-driving cars are fact, chess programs that beat an average professional have been known for a long time. Stock market trading, being unregulated in terms of traders’ methods, will reward those on the cutting edge of research. Best hedge funds may be still be run by humans but if their method is really better, AI will figure it out as well. Besides, most traders do not compete with the best. Just like in the tale where two men are trying to escape from the bear, they need to out run one another, not the bear. Because stock market has so much randomness, it will take traders longer to notice that their opponent is using a superior method.

Another important argument in favour of AI is that most traders specialize in one trading style, be it trend following, mean reverting, fundamental analysis and so on. That is because learning one style is difficult enough, mastering all of them is impossible. When traders start using AI, they suddenly can reach to methods that were not available for them before. By utilizing AI, traders can trade free from their believes, misguided opinions and personal limitations. (Wojtow, Genotick)

The HYPE AI Trading Signal Service is a combination of the Genotick open-source AI bot + Stacked Learner Tweet Sentiment module. Genotick is a well known open-source AI bot which has performed well for traditional stock markets and commodity markets. However, it has performed relatively weakly and rather conservatively when it comes to cryptocurrencies, due to its immense volatility. To improve this, we have added the Tweets-for-Price-Prediction neural network module which is a script for scraping twitter data for predicting stock prices.

We overcame the problem of machine-learning AIs specially designing the algorithm to be Walk-Forward only. That is, similarly to actual trading in real life, our software trades and learns as it goes along. There is no separate learning and trading modes. Also, to better simulate real life, we forced the algorithm to trade on the market’s next price, instead of its last. This is to simulate a real life delay between analysis and placing a trade.

At the beginning Genotick creates initial systems by randomly choosing instructions, changing their arguments and grouping them into lists. Each system has one list of instructions than can be up to 1024 long. Interestingly, once a system is created it never changes. This allows us to trust the system – its output will always be the same on the same data. All systems are saved in a population which is adjusted (or “learns”) over time with genetic algorithm, one day at a time.

Our algorithm assumes that there are multiple systems, each a little bit different. We then take all their predictions to calculate one cumulative prediction that would be used by a user to put a trade on. Genotick calculates profit yield by these predictions and reports it to the user at the end. The final result is what a user would get in real life when executing every day and opening a trade at next market open. (Wojtow, Genotick)



Above Testings Showed a Result of 75% accuracy



From the chart, this network seems to have less of a bias towards a single prediction and might be more suited for practical application. However, the accuracy is not always guaranteed and it is a well-known fact that accuracy of these bots drastically decrease with real-time data, particularly when the markets are highly volatile.

The AI-powered Trading Signals should therefore, only be used to serve as a supportive indication added on to your proven trading strategies. You should not solely rely on the signals provided by these bots to make financial decisions and your own due diligence is essential when it comes to trading cryptocurrencies.



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Re: I want to work community manager with marketing work job.
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treetrunk
on 03/11/2019, 09:02:40 UTC

People nowadays throw in the word 'marketing' too easily. If you are referring to petty 'thread bumps' and spammy 'link shares' on blogs which are dead, you seriously should re-consider using the word 'marketing'.


The title really should read:

I want to work community manager with spamming work job.
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Re: Bakkt will partner with Starbucks for Bitcoin
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treetrunk
on 03/11/2019, 08:07:37 UTC

Starbucks huh? Is that the best they can pull? I mean... seriously. How many customers would actually purchase a cup of coffee with BTC?
Not literary people buying coffee with bitcoin that is not the only aim of BAKKT partnering with Starbucks, the main thing I think and the reason why BAKKT chose Starbucks is due to its popularity and the trend we are now. We all know that Starbucks company became big and more trending lately when people tend to buy coffee from their shop. Promotion is the first aim of this partnership, promotion of BAKKT itself.

Became big & more trending lately? Starbucks has always been dominating the coffee scene for many years my friend.

Anyways, I am not sure what their business decisions were behind this partnership. Maybe they just wanted a 'PR buzz' out of it.
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Re: Looking for forum posting ?
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treetrunk
on 03/11/2019, 07:37:50 UTC

lol what sorcery is this.. can't believe people actually order these stuff. It just makes your thread look spammy and less relevant.

lol its not a sorcery   .  agree on you  . i dont like service like this because this will make your forum fake if you are the owner .

its like forum users are talking from bots and not on an actual users  .  service like this destroys the true meaning of the forum  . it just encourage spam for a people that are lazy to write and compose thier own meaningful post  .

edit : i remeber there were simillar service like this on the forum but the op of those threads got neg  . its illegal to post a service like that on this forum

Good thing that the methods of 'bumping' posts have recently changed. Wish this was kinda applied across all categories.
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Re: Fun Fact: Bitcoin Price is Up 838,000,000% in Ten Years’ Time
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treetrunk
on 03/11/2019, 07:16:27 UTC

Wait... how much was Bitcoin when it first started trading again?
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Re: Looking for forum posting ?
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treetrunk
on 03/11/2019, 07:04:32 UTC

lol what sorcery is this.. can't believe people actually order these stuff. It just makes your thread look spammy and less relevant.
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Re: Bakkt will partner with Starbucks for Bitcoin
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treetrunk
on 03/11/2019, 06:19:04 UTC

Starbucks huh? Is that the best they can pull? I mean... seriously. How many customers would actually purchase a cup of coffee with BTC?