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When trying to access the http://coinzen.org forum a page https://www.facebook.com/ is showing up instead. They are both at 31.13.71.128 so coinzen.org may have been hijacked. Anyone else having the same problem?
- Nova
P.S. coinzen.com can still be used.
- Nova
P.S. coinzen.com can still be used.
it could be a DNS glitch either from your provider or whatever DNS sever you use. i use 2 DNS servers... OpenDNS as well as a private one (instead of the one my internet provider runs)... and i have had far fewer such glitches as a result....
i don't think the production rate has as much to do with value as much as usefulness.... i joined this endeavor because i see the useful value of the idea.... as a certain character in a wonderful film "V" said "Ideas are bulletproof....." Yes, i think ideas are bulletproof..... but the ideas need a platform... and i'm still hoping devtome can provide such a platform.... but some changes must be made before it's basis (devcoin) disappears..... i didn't get in on the "ground floor" but i have a good clue what the "idea" behind devcoin should be..... i'm not a "natural" at writing, but with practice and a lot of different life experience have developed a "feel" for it.... in normal life i am somewhat of a geek with marginal autism..... i'm a bit of a contradiction... i have poor "people skills" but i can explain to non-technical people a lot of technical concepts in plain language and they can understand it (and that's part of my "day job")..... i also have strong beliefs about self expression and freedom (both commodities are in short supply these days).... and see devcoin as a way to further these values... freedom needs an outlet... devtome could be that outlet... and devcoin can reward creative people in a somewhat tangible form.... if it's not left to fail.....
i came in as a writer, but later signed on as a signup admin because i believed in this project.... but i am somewhat dismayed at 1)at least one or more peopl i signed up have yet to be paid after 6 months.... 2)my payment as a signup admin has decreased from 5 shares to 1 share..... and 3) the price has been allowed to drop so far (i actually tried on a few occasions to boost it (somewhat successfully in a few instances))... that the return for even a few minutes of my time helping out new signups is now a burden rather than a profession..... i will continue to help people sign up because i believe in the overall principle behind devcoin.... but there must be some changes made that make sense.... or it becomes a house of cards.....
i run a website where i write about serious political issues.... and currently i get more enjoyment from people visiting it than working for devcoins..... i really think devcoin has a lot of creativity it could bring to the world.... but some things need to drastically change for this to happen.... i'm still here and willing to do whatever i can to help.....
i run a website where i write about serious political issues.... and currently i get more enjoyment from people visiting it than working for devcoins..... i really think devcoin has a lot of creativity it could bring to the world.... but some things need to drastically change for this to happen.... i'm still here and willing to do whatever i can to help.....
and to the idiot who is offering 100 nanoDVC per year as a "giveaway" (remember, one can only claim this "giveaway once per year) on various exchanges you are not only an idiot, but one of the people who are actively devaluing DVC by your antics (giving away 100 nanoDVC per year? R U Serious?
? U R A M0R0N)
? U R A M0R0N)i think some of the payment scripts may be broken..... i have a user i signed up who has written several articles over the last few months... and he has yet to see a "devdime"...... and with the current price of devcoin (4 satoshis... really???) something really needs to be fixed......
i was going to continue a series i started.... but i'm beginning to wonder if it's really worth it.... i'm continuing to work on it offline.... but if nothing changes in the devcoin world........ let's just say there are better outlets for my audio magic....... their names are Denon.... Marantz.... Yamaha..... you like paying Big Bucks for what was to be a nearly free design??? i saw a lot of potential for devcoin as a means of promoting great ideas..... and i still want to publish the rest of my series on devtome first.... but it has to be a worthwhile project to continue.... the "open source" amplifier project by itself is worthwhile, but if the reward on devtome dwindles below the ability to even sell the devcoins it produces (most exchanges have a threshold below which the coin is useless for trading because they don't allow such low values entered).... then where do i go? to companies i know where i have a little bit of an "in".... that might pay huge amounts of cash for a design ready made.... and for devcoin's sake i'd rather not go that route.... i really think devcoin has a place in the world economy, and a very good mission.... if it can be kept from the crash it seems to be creating for itself at the moment.
??) something really needs to be fixed......i was going to continue a series i started.... but i'm beginning to wonder if it's really worth it.... i'm continuing to work on it offline.... but if nothing changes in the devcoin world........ let's just say there are better outlets for my audio magic....... their names are Denon.... Marantz.... Yamaha..... you like paying Big Bucks for what was to be a nearly free design?
?? i saw a lot of potential for devcoin as a means of promoting great ideas..... and i still want to publish the rest of my series on devtome first.... but it has to be a worthwhile project to continue.... the "open source" amplifier project by itself is worthwhile, but if the reward on devtome dwindles below the ability to even sell the devcoins it produces (most exchanges have a threshold below which the coin is useless for trading because they don't allow such low values entered).... then where do i go? to companies i know where i have a little bit of an "in".... that might pay huge amounts of cash for a design ready made.... and for devcoin's sake i'd rather not go that route.... i really think devcoin has a place in the world economy, and a very good mission.... if it can be kept from the crash it seems to be creating for itself at the moment.Judging by the massive buy support on Cryptsy for the current price of 0.00000111 and upwards (100 BTC or so) I would say we are about to see a massive movement upwards.
Value is up roughly 75-80% on yesterday and the buy support is there to keep it moving.
*This is not advice to invest - just my opinion*
edit: we are already up to 0.00000117 and still going up strong with phenomenal buy support. This is definitely a breakout in DVC value right now. It looks exactly like what happened to DOGE a couple of weeks ago - except the DVC sell orders are thinner so I expect DVC to go up more than DOGE did. Again this is just my opinion.
I wouldn't be selling any DVC right now - the current activity is definitely something of a different scale right now signalling massive movements upwards.
edit 2: The massive buy walls just disappeared - not sure what's going on
Value is up roughly 75-80% on yesterday and the buy support is there to keep it moving.
*This is not advice to invest - just my opinion*
edit: we are already up to 0.00000117 and still going up strong with phenomenal buy support. This is definitely a breakout in DVC value right now. It looks exactly like what happened to DOGE a couple of weeks ago - except the DVC sell orders are thinner so I expect DVC to go up more than DOGE did. Again this is just my opinion.
I wouldn't be selling any DVC right now - the current activity is definitely something of a different scale right now signalling massive movements upwards.
edit 2: The massive buy walls just disappeared - not sure what's going on
i'm just letting the remainder of my bracketed sell orders "ride".... had 6 of them go through last night, averaging about 15% margin ... got 2 still waiting.... these are only 1000dvc each, part of a trading experiment... 15% margin in a month of running the experiment is not too bad.... better than when i traded stocks....
btw.... when the price is going up like this it's the wrong time to "invest"... the best time to invest is when the price is low....
Its cool and we can use gann numbers to come up with support and resistances.. once people find useful information it will become a hub to find outthe market status of a crypto. Also related news for each crypto with links.
Ie for maxcoin give the link to the video where max kieser first talks about the coin after release as people are waiting for this still eagerly..
A decent regular market outlook would be good. I think most technical analysis is voodoo, but it's popular so it needs watching particularly very short term where most voodoo people seem to play.Ie for maxcoin give the link to the video where max kieser first talks about the coin after release as people are waiting for this still eagerly..
technical analysis can give you some basic idea if there are cyclic variations, and some idea what's " normal", but without qualitative analysis, yes, it's voodoo.... for instance, i have been sitting on 8 sell orders of 1000dvc each for about a month. while the normal trading range seemed to be dropping (the voodoo would have said to cancel my more ambitious orders, and cut my losses) i just let them sit... sure enough, DVC went up enough to execute 4 of my sell orders (with about 30% margin) and am within "spitting distance" of 3 of the other 4. you see, the qualitative part of the analysis had a press release a couple of days ago, plus a new influx of writers just before this round's deadline, plus the start of a new round... so i hung in there rather than cancelling orders that the "voodoo" would have indicated cancelling....
i'm looking at http://dvcusdchart.blisteringdevelopers.com/ and wonder if it's possible to get my browser to auto update this periodically, like once per minute.... or is that something that would be an option on the page....
BlueCoin Stock has added DevCoin.
You can visit the market with the exchange and monitors this, here: http://bluecoinstock.com/public/market/8
http://i.imgur.com/gYpIEYk.png
You can visit the market with the exchange and monitors this, here: http://bluecoinstock.com/public/market/8
http://i.imgur.com/gYpIEYk.png
any way of changing the time zoom?
http://dvccountdown.blisteringdevelopers.com/ is down.... 502 bad gateway
How much will I get if I use 'write for devtome' in my signiture? And how to apply/ who do I contact for this?
Everything you need to know is here
it's 1/5 - 2/5 shares depending on your post count.http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_marketing
posts on here and coinizen.org???
Could writers expect a half decent residual on ad revenues over time?
Some cons that come to mind are that it would likely shape successful writers; successful in the sense of reward in DVCs; to write in a fashion that is search engine friendly and could possibly put a bias on the writing if the motivation was reward related.
If their share in ad revenues was perpetual then is it possible to see the same reward, or better, over time that may, now, be had in one time share splits?
Should witers expect a half decent residual on ad revenues over time? Or on generation shares?Some cons that come to mind are that it would likely shape successful writers; successful in the sense of reward in DVCs; to write in a fashion that is search engine friendly and could possibly put a bias on the writing if the motivation was reward related.
If their share in ad revenues was perpetual then is it possible to see the same reward, or better, over time that may, now, be had in one time share splits?
There's already a bias - word count - so we're not starting from a position of neutrality. It's chicken and egg again. In the case of open source work I think effort should come before reward. That means it's down to programmers and writers (and musicians and artists?) to determine worth. Perhaps one way would be for each creative form earning base to be determined by all participants except those under assessment. At minimum it would give an interesting idea of foundational value, and would be an interesting study in (as you've put it) race to the bottom or race to the top. Testing game theory and underlying motivations.
An example of arse about tit are suggestions for charity donations motivated by potential for a price rise, not charity. Price derives from value. If those people want higher prices then they need to find ways to contribute/donate to open-source projects that add vale to devcoin. Bribery gains are generally transient and difficult to extricate oneself from.
this is why i decided to start an open source hardware project on devtome.... hopefully my writing skills are adequate, but i see an opportunity to not only make some money by writing, but help somebody else make a living from an idea that i think has possibilities..... i'm still in the planning stages for the articles, but after i finish the groundwork, and start the actual technical discussion and adding detail, somebody with a similar bent (and adequate funding) might be able to turn the plan into reality. i have a few places i can post on audio technology forums that might grab some interest. this isn't charity, but a potential business.... but i'm not very good at business plans..... i'm an electrical engineer, and somehow the whole "social engineering" side of building a business is totally foreign to me.... i'm totally at home with "current mirrors, oscillators, power supplies" and the like, but marketing?.... not a clue.....
I dont quite understand, by one sided trade flow?...
I am putting an IRC chat module up on devcoinproject.com
'One sided trade flow'. I think too much talk and incentive structure is about earning/getting dvc. That results in a focus on how/why/where to sell. This undermines the entire point of devcoin, which is to fund open source work, and therefore needs as much if not more focus on support, buying and adding value.I am putting an IRC chat module up on devcoinproject.com
I see dvc as by definition a mutual concept if it's going to take off. Some others see it as a client-employee relationship only; submit work - expect to get paid. That opinion is fine, but because I don't think that's sustainable until there's a much bigger base of support I'm not particularly interested in making transience and/or bounty hunting and/or word dumps easier. If others disagree that's up to them but, for example, if writers aren't buying dvc to support writing then who is and why do we pay for it.
You shouldn't give up on ideas at the first knock back. Whether I or anyone else disagrees doesn't necessarily imply a bad idea. If you've spent time thinking it through and it makes sense, then it may be an issue of explanation. Put it in simpler terms - explain like you're explaining to homer simpson, then people can give feedback on basics.
There's a dvc channel here I saw on first page of the thread: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=devcoin although I've never used it.
eeh: I'm not having any issues.
dexter: There's nothing stopping you giving to charity yourself - dvc or otherwise. Would you still be in favour of that idea if the dvc price didn't rise?
One of the first things i did in crypto land was put $5000 into devcoin when bitcoin was $100.. If writers would do the same put their money where their keyboards are we wouldbe sonewhere far bynow.. instead we still lack direction...
Writers are saying their work means alot.. what value are you putting on your work.. value that someone may read your work and make youfeel good? Or value that hey I get paid thousands of $ for stuff id never get paid for anyway??
Judging by the constant selling at market its telling me the later and Im generalizing because thats the system we created. Ppl dont value their work as anyhing other than a means to get paid.. put ot this way.. if you werent paid for your work would you still have written on devtome?
Same goes for developers.. even though I created vokuntary bounties for a new client i really got a kick as an official bounty was offferrd... but I think I would have done it anyway or rsnel would have done it because it needs doing. Shares may help speed it up but shouldnt stop the train altogeher for you. If you wouldnt write without getting paid I personally think this is the wrong community for that.
What we need to encourage is the exact opposite as a writer you should be
holding coins or buying more and the writing to increase awarness so rhe value of your investment in $ or time rises...
By creating incentive for profitable businesses and we have admins willing tonwork for the community you create a wave of economic support that is easy to see... With devtome its like yea maybe one day itll get there.. but we certainly arent setting the right rules up or
leading people to proper conclusions to allow for sustainable growth.
The only way you will work for devcoin without major pay is if you hold the coins.. otherwise
you wont want to. If you dont want to
hold the coins then you are simply in it to skin the cat.
i'm probably not a "great" writer, but i am an engineer who has an idea. in order for that idea to find it's way into a finished product, i'm willing to put that idea up on devtome, and let somebody else run with it. if somebody is going to understand my idea, i must communicate it as clearly as possible, which means i have to write it well. my intention is to create a product (or line of products) that not only are "open source", but useful. one of the things said in the devtome instructions is " Writers should write what they know best. ", so that's what i'm going to focus on.... but to communicate my idea effectively, i need to use writing skills, which i hope are up to the task..... the way i see it, writing entails a clear picture of the goal, and writing it out in a clear and logical fashion (without being boring and dry). so devtome has become my outlet for this idea....
when i was doing stock trading years ago, i actually took some classes to learn some of the basics. one of the things i learned about trading was"wouldn't it be better having your money working for you, rather than always working for money?" it was a point of view that was new to me... rather than just cash out when i get paid for articles on devtome, i will take a portion of it for trading, and make my money work for me. another portion i will leave in my local wallet, and another portion i might cash out.... i will continue writing on devtome, but i will also continue my day job, which most of the time, i enjoy.... i'm an audio engineer, and i work as an audio technician repairing receivers, which, as an engineer is usually quite enjoyable, because i get to see how other engineers think, and i get to listen to music all day.....
the fees on this exchange (crypto-trade) are 0.2%, so if the trading range for the bot is 1%, the bot still makes 0.6% per cycle( 0.2% up+ 0.2% down would account for the other 0.4%)
bots may make the trading game interesting for the most part.... the example of what i think may be a bot trading pattern, didn't change the average price, or the overall trend. what i would worry about with a bot, is if somebody comes up with a bot that consistently moves the price up or down on a certain coin, and uses it to gain leverage.... if that were to happen with regular stocks and bonds. it would be illegal....
what it looked like to me on the graph i posted, was a bot doing trades within a very narrow trading range at low volumes, but enough to skim a small percentage off of each trade, which, accordint to the volume graph is probably "small potatoes", but probably a significant margin for the person running the bot.... turning a few hundredths of a DGC into a few tenths of a DGC in the space of two hours. it also may only work on a small scale because of the effects of volume.
what it looked like to me on the graph i posted, was a bot doing trades within a very narrow trading range at low volumes, but enough to skim a small percentage off of each trade, which, accordint to the volume graph is probably "small potatoes", but probably a significant margin for the person running the bot.... turning a few hundredths of a DGC into a few tenths of a DGC in the space of two hours. it also may only work on a small scale because of the effects of volume.
so, i'm guessing this is a bot in action?
http://i.imgur.com/YqUqJVn.png
http://i.imgur.com/YqUqJVn.png
Hey guys, here's my submission for the investment plan bounty. A publicly traded business could quite easily be generated that uses its strategy.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=ema-volatility_trading_algorithm_for_bots
It's the description and algorithm of a trading bot I've developed and have been using for bitcoins for a few months now with some success. It's intended to work with a bot but can be run manually if you're crazy enough.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=ema-volatility_trading_algorithm_for_bots
It's the description and algorithm of a trading bot I've developed and have been using for bitcoins for a few months now with some success. It's intended to work with a bot but can be run manually if you're crazy enough.
just curious... did u test this on dogecoins recently? i noticed on crypto-trade within the last day or two there was an odd "oscillation" between two prices, and thought to myself "looks like a series of 'bot trades'...."
if so, it seemed to be working, and didn't seem to have much effect on the overall trend.... the trading range of the "oscillation" was only about 1%, but there were about 50 trades... it was an interesting graph.... i should have saved an image of it