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Thanks for answers!
First of all I could't find the 'location bar'. However, I did notice it when I had it in full screen. Because I hoovered the 'top bar' so that 'Go' appeard. And good suggestion to export and import the description.
First of all I could't find the 'location bar'. However, I did notice it when I had it in full screen. Because I hoovered the 'top bar' so that 'Go' appeard. And good suggestion to export and import the description.
I don't get my description if I restore my wallet with a seed (of course). Where is the folder located to restore the wallet? Electrums docs says "Go -> Location and type ~/.electrum". It's probably obvious but I dont know where to type that in Ubuntu...
What will be the correct price to proceed with in the class action against KnC because you didn't receive your bonus miner (Titan batch 2).
Is it the price of a Neptune WHEN everyone received the information about getting a bonus Neptune?
Is it the price of a Titan batch 2?
1. They probably kept alot of customers because offering a bonus machine. Therefore the fair price should be the value of a Neptune when the offer came?
2. Everyone that changed to a Titan batch 2 did in that case accept that the price of that Titan were lower then the price of a Neptune when the offer came, therefore should it be the price of a Titan batch 2?
3. Another reason and price?
Does anyone know what the prices were for a Neptune when the offer came?
What was the price for a Titan batch 2?
I will ask the lawyers as well.
Are it anyone here that joined the class action of the same reason as I got? What are you gonna try to claim?
Is it the price of a Neptune WHEN everyone received the information about getting a bonus Neptune?
Is it the price of a Titan batch 2?
1. They probably kept alot of customers because offering a bonus machine. Therefore the fair price should be the value of a Neptune when the offer came?
2. Everyone that changed to a Titan batch 2 did in that case accept that the price of that Titan were lower then the price of a Neptune when the offer came, therefore should it be the price of a Titan batch 2?
3. Another reason and price?
Does anyone know what the prices were for a Neptune when the offer came?
What was the price for a Titan batch 2?
I will ask the lawyers as well.
Are it anyone here that joined the class action of the same reason as I got? What are you gonna try to claim?
Did anyone take back 3 btc
I didn't for sure! But I know that I saw someone in this thread that wrote that he did it.
No the only way to get some more back is trough the group action against KnC. 2 lawyers from Sweden and 1 from USA.
http://kncclassaction.com/
You realize if KNC goes bankrupt in the process you will lose your retainer ($1,500.00 ish USD) with these lawyers. You'd be better playing poker at a casino!
Lets play this as a poker game. The pot is $12000.
Your call to win this pott is $1800 (retainer of 15%, might even be lower).
You should always take this call if your chance to win the pot is 1/6 or better. And do you think that the chance to win against KnC is lower then 1/6??
In my opinion the chance to win is mutch better! I havn't any experience from lawyers and the court. But of course there are some risks. Of course there are a risk to loose the case.
But I dont think that KnC wins this 5 times of 6 (5/6), I do rather belive that we win this is 5 times of 6!
And bankrupt? I will celebrate if they goes bankrupt! But I don't think they will do that.
Some weeks ago this news came: http://www.bloomberg.com/research/markets/news/article.asp?docKey=600-201504290300HUGIN___EUPRX____HUG1916185-1
The name of that cerificate is XBT Provider AB, it's a part of KnC Group (where KnC Miner is included).
And some month ago they got a huge amount from investors.
And if you lose case you lose that + other's legal fee's it sounded like. And a security bond. So if you lose.... wow world of hurt.
And since the lawyers choose to get paid up front in retainer and not out of winnings, they win no matter what.
And since the lawyers choose to get paid up front in retainer and not out of winnings, they win no matter what.
"So if you lose.... wow world of hurt"
Wow very dramatic sentence! But ofc it's true that if we loose the case WE in the group action will need to pay some "fees" and trial costs.
But that amount isn't compared with a "world of hurt".
I have some mail conversation with Joakim Strignert. I asked him specifically about this question. What he estimate and if we count high (everything goes wrong)/your world of hurt is:
We win in the district court. KnC appeal to the next instance, and they wins. In that case we need to pay all of it.
If we count that 50 people joins the group action and the cost are $50K. Each of us will need to pay $1000 in trial cost.
Ofc everyone that consider to join the group action needs to take this in his or hers equation.
A bad scenario will be something like this: Retainer $1000 + trial cost $1000 = $2000
$2000 to win $12000 = 1/6. And as I said before. I don't think that we win this case 1 of 6 times. If it isn't 6/6 I think it is at least 5/6.
For me it's good odds even when we count high!
But I can feel bad for those that however they do they can't take a risk. Even if we got the odds on our side, and even very good odds.
There is no guarantee that you will win $12,000. The courts could still say the max pay out below the requested amount, or better yet KNC could position themselves to go into bankruptcy if any verdict is handed down, in that case the company they owe money to such as their chip builder would get access to the money first then those who sued them would get whatever was left which might work out $350 per person. Is it really worth it?
There is so much more that can happen in the court of law that you end up holding the short end of the stick. This whole idea that if you give someone $1800 that you'll get $12,000 has been done before and has always turned out be a scam. You know what they say about things that are too good to be true right? This is one of those things.
Good luck!
I guess that the best way is if we find a solution with KnC before a trial. For an example, I don't think 3 btc is a fair amount instead of a Titan batch 2. If we find an other solution where they pay some more, I/we might agree with that. In that case, we don't need to go to trial. But if I know KnC enough I don't think they will pay a satoshi more then 3 btc.
If my bound is $8000 and if I'll get $4000 it's still better then nothing. But as you said it's no guarantee that we get the amount we request.
If they put them self into bankrupt, may so be. Then you loose the bound of $1000. If you don't have thoose money or if that amount is too big for you. Perhaps this isn't for you.
And ofc there are other things that could happen. But sometime you need to do some things that isn't what you calculated with. That's life I guess!
Even if I only get $100 back, I will tell you for sure that it was worth it! Because I now that I at least did what I could. Did anyone take back 3 btc
I didn't for sure! But I know that I saw someone in this thread that wrote that he did it.
No the only way to get some more back is trough the group action against KnC. 2 lawyers from Sweden and 1 from USA.
http://kncclassaction.com/
You realize if KNC goes bankrupt in the process you will lose your retainer ($1,500.00 ish USD) with these lawyers. You'd be better playing poker at a casino!
Lets play this as a poker game. The pot is $12000.
Your call to win this pott is $1800 (retainer of 15%, might even be lower).
You should always take this call if your chance to win the pot is 1/6 or better. And do you think that the chance to win against KnC is lower then 1/6??
In my opinion the chance to win is mutch better! I havn't any experience from lawyers and the court. But of course there are some risks. Of course there are a risk to loose the case.
But I dont think that KnC wins this 5 times of 6 (5/6), I do rather belive that we win this is 5 times of 6!
And bankrupt? I will celebrate if they goes bankrupt! But I don't think they will do that.
Some weeks ago this news came: http://www.bloomberg.com/research/markets/news/article.asp?docKey=600-201504290300HUGIN___EUPRX____HUG1916185-1
The name of that cerificate is XBT Provider AB, it's a part of KnC Group (where KnC Miner is included).
And some month ago they got a huge amount from investors.
And if you lose case you lose that + other's legal fee's it sounded like. And a security bond. So if you lose.... wow world of hurt.
And since the lawyers choose to get paid up front in retainer and not out of winnings, they win no matter what.
And since the lawyers choose to get paid up front in retainer and not out of winnings, they win no matter what.
"So if you lose.... wow world of hurt"
Wow very dramatic sentence! But ofc it's true that if we loose the case WE in the group action will need to pay some "fees" and trial costs.
But that amount isn't compared with a "world of hurt".
I have some mail conversation with Joakim Strignert. I asked him specifically about this question. What he estimate and if we count high (everything goes wrong)/your world of hurt is:
We win in the district court. KnC appeal to the next instance, and they wins. In that case we need to pay all of it.
If we count that 50 people joins the group action and the cost are $50K. Each of us will need to pay $1000 in trial cost.
Ofc everyone that consider to join the group action needs to take this in his or hers equation.
A bad scenario will be something like this: Retainer $1000 + trial cost $1000 = $2000
$2000 to win $12000 = 1/6. And as I said before. I don't think that we win this case 1 of 6 times. If it isn't 6/6 I think it is at least 5/6.
For me it's good odds even when we count high!
But I can feel bad for those that however they do they can't take a risk. Even if we got the odds on our side, and even very good odds.
Did anyone take back 3 btc
I didn't for sure! But I know that I saw someone in this thread that wrote that he did it.
No the only way to get some more back is trough the group action against KnC. 2 lawyers from Sweden and 1 from USA.
http://kncclassaction.com/
I'll update what I last talked about with Joakim Stignert. He is one of the lawyer in the group action.
You more people that will join the group action, the better it is for each of us. The interest are really high, especially by the amount from USA and Charlotte Lin.
Consider that, the risk are really low. They will tell the amount of participators so that each of us can make our own estimates of the risks. BUT the cost of the trial(s) should be "normal", so KnC can't get 10 lawyers and think that we will pay that if they win.
They make an estimate that at least 50 people will join the group action. If KnC loose and appeal and wins in the supreme court (first district court and if they loose and appeal they will go to supreme court). And if we count really high, let say KnC sends an invoice of 400 000 sek our cost per person will be 8000 SEK (400 000/50 = 8000 SEK or in USD $50 000/50 = $1000). And that is worst case.
They can't sue any of us because their name or their brand or any thing like that got poorly treated.
You more people that will join the group action, the better it is for each of us. The interest are really high, especially by the amount from USA and Charlotte Lin.
Consider that, the risk are really low. They will tell the amount of participators so that each of us can make our own estimates of the risks. BUT the cost of the trial(s) should be "normal", so KnC can't get 10 lawyers and think that we will pay that if they win.
They make an estimate that at least 50 people will join the group action. If KnC loose and appeal and wins in the supreme court (first district court and if they loose and appeal they will go to supreme court). And if we count really high, let say KnC sends an invoice of 400 000 sek our cost per person will be 8000 SEK (400 000/50 = 8000 SEK or in USD $50 000/50 = $1000). And that is worst case.
They can't sue any of us because their name or their brand or any thing like that got poorly treated.
3) The fact I have contacted them 3 times on my Titan 1st batch order on the grounds of 1) Late delivery Nov 6th 2) firmware did not do alts as advertised first couple
months on top of the titan being late and the FUD they put out after the fact changing www pages and keeping old dates to say it was ORIGINALLY ONLY to be
an LTC miner so the above firmware issue did not apply 3) the usual no refund even thou should have got one argument everyone will use 4) The fact that in my
particular case have 2 cubes with 2 dead die each that they refused to RMA saying it was good enough 5) Their admission form day one that the first batch of Titan asic chips were 'not up to par and substandard' but the risk was our own ..the consumers in that it was 'experimental equipment'
I don't know what the best scenarious is. If it only is a a full refound or not. Perhaps there is another one were you don't need to join with a ~$12K retainer. Mayby only a $2-3K retainer. And in case of a lost, it will be easier to handle. But as I said in a previous post, wait for the next form or email them and ask. Perhaps you don't get any answer until they know by them self what the best way is.
But when I read your story it looks like a quite strong case? It didn't mine alt coins as they said, you got problems with it and knc doesn't answer you, Titan asic chips were 'not up to par and substandard' but the risk was our own.
But I'm not the person to judge that!
ie could i still LOSE even thou others in the class action with different equipment win?
Actually got that thought by my self. I emailed Joakim yesterday with some question. Hopefully he will answer soon.
heh managed to sign up for the site in the above FAQ link..it states submit an online form to be considered....seems the link for the online form is not coming
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada
AND their contact email address (info at kncclassaction.com) is not operational. Are these people serious at all??
I have dealt with lawyers not much. Only one decent sized case. But I can tell you if a law firm did all this then decided they need more info and a new form this far in I would be scared. I mean did they even look at case till just now realize how big of variety of problems there are?
So the lawyers are just now looking into it... just now noticing "Holy crap there are a lot of different situations". And they want paid up front, not doing on a percentage. Not to mention I don't think they said how much you could owe if you lose.
I wish all well that do this but it would scare the heck out of me.
"This far in", at least Joakim had individual cases before this. I don't know for how long time they worked together. But a new form isn't scary? Meanwhile all of this grows you should adapt to it. But probably it's mostly for them to get a better overview of it. Instead of manually sit and make this.
But I think in a week or two we have alot more information how this will proceed. Better to wait for more information, instead of speculate to mutch.
heh managed to sign up for the site in the above FAQ link..it states submit an online form to be considered....seems the link for the online form is not coming
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada
up in IE or Firefox....this is hardly encouraging....name and password work...go to this page and fill out form and nada
AND their contact email address (info at kncclassaction.com) is not operational. Are these people serious at all??
Okey, sounds weird. But as I said they are makeing a new form. So it should probably work better in a week or two.
And I havn't tried the email on kncclassaction.com
However you could get directly to the Swedish lawyers here:
http://dinratt.se/#kontakt
Joakim Strignert
Telefon: +46708-198891
joakim.strignert@dinratt.se
http://www.riseco.se/kontakt.html
Magnus Daar
+46 708 86 81 61
+46 8 402 01 42
magnus.daar@riseco.se
I had a great chat with Joakim today, he is one of the lowyers that handle the case against KnC.
One thing I woundered was why there was 3 lowyers in this and why they didn't operated togheter.
His answer was that he had some individual cases against KnC, but since a while back he had been working together with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin, and now are they doing it all together.
And it's trough http://kncclassaction.com/ you join the group action with them. Or if you are unsure to join, at least please contact them.
He told me that they are makeing a more complex form because there is so many different situations to handle. And if you have been in contact with them before you will probably get an email about it. Otherwise check out http://kncclassaction.com/ in the next week/weeks.
I said that I know some that are unsure to join because 15% is big amount on ~$12K and if it was possible to join with another amount, eg only claim/demand halft of the amount from KnC. He thought it was a good question and he will discuss it with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin.
I asked him about the up-front retainer of 15%, he said that there are alot of people that is intrested. But as he said, they don't know how many that will proceed with it. But it's possible that it will be a smaller retainer then 15%. It all depends on how many that actually joins the group action.
http://kncclassaction.com/
http://dinratt.se/
http://www.riseco.se/
One thing I woundered was why there was 3 lowyers in this and why they didn't operated togheter.
His answer was that he had some individual cases against KnC, but since a while back he had been working together with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin, and now are they doing it all together.
And it's trough http://kncclassaction.com/ you join the group action with them. Or if you are unsure to join, at least please contact them.
He told me that they are makeing a more complex form because there is so many different situations to handle. And if you have been in contact with them before you will probably get an email about it. Otherwise check out http://kncclassaction.com/ in the next week/weeks.
I said that I know some that are unsure to join because 15% is big amount on ~$12K and if it was possible to join with another amount, eg only claim/demand halft of the amount from KnC. He thought it was a good question and he will discuss it with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin.
I asked him about the up-front retainer of 15%, he said that there are alot of people that is intrested. But as he said, they don't know how many that will proceed with it. But it's possible that it will be a smaller retainer then 15%. It all depends on how many that actually joins the group action.
http://kncclassaction.com/
http://dinratt.se/
http://www.riseco.se/
Did you ask about worst case scenario about losing case? How much could people need to pay twords KNC for legal, and other fees.
I still think if they believed in it they would not need the retainer, maybe a smaller court fees amount. But no matter what win or lose these lawyers want to get paid it seems.
But that is my 2 cent's I am no legal expert.
No I didn't, but I will. Any others that have any question that you wounder about?
I don't think there will be mutch to pay twords KNC if we loose because:
1. We are really many that will split it.
2. As another wrote in a previous post, it isn't possible for KNC to hire 15 top lawyers and think that we will pay for that. It doesn't work that way.
But I will for sure check it up because neither am I a legal expert!
It would been good if the retainer went down to 5-10%. Think it will be easier for people to join.
I had a great chat with Joakim today, he is one of the lowyers that handle the case against KnC.
One thing I woundered was why there was 3 lowyers in this and why they didn't operated togheter.
His answer was that he had some individual cases against KnC, but since a while back he had been working together with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin, and now are they doing it all together.
And it's trough http://kncclassaction.com/ you join the group action with them. Or if you are unsure to join, at least please contact them.
He told me that they are makeing a more complex form because there is so many different situations to handle. And if you have been in contact with them before you will probably get an email about it. Otherwise check out http://kncclassaction.com/ in the next week/weeks.
I said that I know some that are unsure to join because 15% is big amount on ~$12K and if it was possible to join with another amount, eg only claim/demand halft of the amount from KnC. He thought it was a good question and he will discuss it with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin.
I asked him about the up-front retainer of 15%, he said that there are alot of people that is intrested. But as he said, they don't know how many that will proceed with it. But it's possible that it will be a smaller retainer then 15%. It all depends on how many that actually joins the group action.
http://kncclassaction.com/
http://dinratt.se/
http://www.riseco.se/
One thing I woundered was why there was 3 lowyers in this and why they didn't operated togheter.
His answer was that he had some individual cases against KnC, but since a while back he had been working together with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin, and now are they doing it all together.
And it's trough http://kncclassaction.com/ you join the group action with them. Or if you are unsure to join, at least please contact them.
He told me that they are makeing a more complex form because there is so many different situations to handle. And if you have been in contact with them before you will probably get an email about it. Otherwise check out http://kncclassaction.com/ in the next week/weeks.
I said that I know some that are unsure to join because 15% is big amount on ~$12K and if it was possible to join with another amount, eg only claim/demand halft of the amount from KnC. He thought it was a good question and he will discuss it with Magnus Daar and Charlotte Lin.
I asked him about the up-front retainer of 15%, he said that there are alot of people that is intrested. But as he said, they don't know how many that will proceed with it. But it's possible that it will be a smaller retainer then 15%. It all depends on how many that actually joins the group action.
http://kncclassaction.com/
http://dinratt.se/
http://www.riseco.se/
Do you guys think these would be good replacement fans for Neptunes?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200110&cm_re=140mm_fan-_-35-200-110-_-Product
No, the worst Neptune stock fan is 120CFM minimum, so you need one better than that at the very least.http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200110&cm_re=140mm_fan-_-35-200-110-_-Product
On the class action, I would love to join and could really use a win on that having paid $13.2K for my Neptune, but I can't afford another $2K gamble on the retainer. I really think they will win, but I just can't afford the risk of being stuck with that bill on top of the Neptune. Just my luck, lol.
Sorry to hear that!
Think that everyone got some thought like that. What I understand there will be a group speak, but everyone in the group will have their own claim. Perhaps you can claim a small amount of $2000 in different damages that KnC caused. If we/you loose, you will only need to pay $300. But at least you did something against the company. And if we/you win, you will at least get some of it. And you don't need to feel later on in life that you didn't do it when you had the chance. Justice is important!
Even if you paid $13.2K for your Neptune you don't need to take that amount as a 'claim amount' in the court.
Probably it isn't the same thing in this group speak. Please help me with this word, but in Sweden we got this 'base amount' (in swedish: basbelopp). It's 44 500 SEK (~$5600). You don't need to pay any costs at all if the amount in the court is half a 'base amount' (22 250 SEK), perhaps there is some fee of $100-$200 to begin the process. But if you loose, you don't need to pay anything.
But then you probably need to be out of the group speak :/
However at least send an email to one of the loywers. Perhaps it will be cheaper, say 10% of the amount you claim if we get enough peoples in this group speak.
What would be a fair amount to claim from KnC regarding the bonus Titan, either if they accept it without trial or if it will go to trial?
What was the price on the Titan? Around $5500?
"Dear Sir/Madam.
We can see from our records that you have selected to receive a bonus Titan miner as part of the 2 for 1 offer we ran last year. Due technical issues in the selection process the Titan miner was not correctly registered as a choice and not accounted for. In this case we would like to offer you the following options instead of receiving the bonus Titan miner.
Option 1: Swap the bonus Titan miner for a free Neptune miner expected to ship within the next few weeks.
Or
Option 2: Receive a BTC payment of 3 Bitcoins per bonus Titan miner you were entitled to. (If you select this option please provide a BTC wallet address with your confirmation)
Please reply to this email to confirm your choice before the end of business 17:00 CET on Friday 3rd of April.
Thank you.
KnCMiner Team. "
What was the price on the Titan? Around $5500?
"Dear Sir/Madam.
We can see from our records that you have selected to receive a bonus Titan miner as part of the 2 for 1 offer we ran last year. Due technical issues in the selection process the Titan miner was not correctly registered as a choice and not accounted for. In this case we would like to offer you the following options instead of receiving the bonus Titan miner.
Option 1: Swap the bonus Titan miner for a free Neptune miner expected to ship within the next few weeks.
Or
Option 2: Receive a BTC payment of 3 Bitcoins per bonus Titan miner you were entitled to. (If you select this option please provide a BTC wallet address with your confirmation)
Please reply to this email to confirm your choice before the end of business 17:00 CET on Friday 3rd of April.
Thank you.
KnCMiner Team. "
A group of about twenty different customers, and some former KnCMiner employees, have started a Twitter account to help preserve evidence of the KnCMiner fraud.
If you DM, we can also provide help with referrals to lawyers in both Sweden and the USA for help in recovering money stolen by KnC.
Thank you
twitter.com/knc_law
Samuel
If you DM, we can also provide help with referrals to lawyers in both Sweden and the USA for help in recovering money stolen by KnC.
Thank you
twitter.com/knc_law
Samuel
Thanks for this one!
I found this one as well, knc-kncminer-titan-lawsuit.org
But it seems that it's still under construction.
Hi,
If you chose the option of a refund for your mini Titan, you will be refunded the same amount of BTC that you paid to us. The Swedish law on cancelled purchases is that both parties get back what they initially performed.
The initial transaction you performed was that you paid to us a number of BTC, for that reason you must be repaid that same number of BTC.
If you confirm the refund as your choice we will process the refund in the quickest way possible to the wallet address you have provided.
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Keith Gurnett
Kncminer
If you chose the option of a refund for your mini Titan, you will be refunded the same amount of BTC that you paid to us. The Swedish law on cancelled purchases is that both parties get back what they initially performed.
The initial transaction you performed was that you paid to us a number of BTC, for that reason you must be repaid that same number of BTC.
If you confirm the refund as your choice we will process the refund in the quickest way possible to the wallet address you have provided.
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Keith Gurnett
Kncminer
Did they actually changed their minds after claiming 1000000 times that there are no refunds for the Titans and By the Swedish law they don't have to refund you since you are a Business company and not a private customer ?!!?
Quote
Hi,
The Swedish law on cancelled purchases is that both parties get back what they initially performed. The initial transaction you performed was that you paid to us a number of BTC, for that reason you must be repaid that same number of BTC.
As stated in my previous email we are working as quickly as possible and we will send the refund to the wallet address you have provided as soon as possible.
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Keith Gurnett
The Swedish law on cancelled purchases is that both parties get back what they initially performed. The initial transaction you performed was that you paid to us a number of BTC, for that reason you must be repaid that same number of BTC.
As stated in my previous email we are working as quickly as possible and we will send the refund to the wallet address you have provided as soon as possible.
Med vänlig hälsning | Best regards
Keith Gurnett
I requested a full refund and am going to get back less than half what I paid. They double their money, get to hold it for almost a full year and deliver nothing. How is that legal
I know there is a swedish lawyer that was taking cases from people for $1,500 retainer, can someone please point me in his direction? Thanks
This is the guy you are looking for - magnus.daar@riseco.se
The refund is for the batch 2 mini Titan, they offered "full" refund or a neptune because they ran out of parts and can't deliver the mini Titan. I have the email, it said full refund, now they claim they only owe me $0.34 on the dollar. The Titan was never priced in Bitcoin, it was priced in fiat and the amount of Bitcoins it cost depended on the fiat value of Bitcoin. If the offer of $0.34 cents on the dollar wasn't bad enough, they have no timeframe of when payment would be made, so they are sitting and waiting for Bitcoins price to drop before sending any refunds.
Honestly at this point I'd be more than willing to lose the entire price I paid to fight them in court just for the way they treat their customers. Thanks for the lawyers info, contacting him now.
I emailed Magnus Daar yesterday. Hopefully I'll get a response on monday. Perhaps he doing a lot of knc cases. But one of them are this where knc emailed and said that they couldn't deliver the Titan because of "technical issues in the selection process".
That's about the bonus miner were people choose a Titan instead of a Neptune.
As I said, I haven't talked to him yet. But I heard from another one that if there are more then 20 people in this case. The lawyer will take the cost's in the trial, if there will be one.
Anyone more that got this mail from KnC?
Dear Sir/Madam.
We can see from our records that you have selected to receive a bonus Titan miner as part of the 2 for 1 offer we ran last year. Due technical issues in the selection process the Titan miner was not correctly registered as a choice and not accounted for. In this case we would like to offer you the following options instead of receiving the bonus Titan miner.
Option 1: Swap the bonus Titan miner for a free Neptune miner expected to ship within the next few weeks.
Or
Option 2: Receive a BTC payment of 3 Bitcoins per bonus Titan miner you were entitled to. (If you select this option please provide a BTC wallet address with your confirmation)
Please reply to this email to confirm your choice before the end of business 17:00 CET on Friday 3rd of April.
Thank you.
KnCMiner Team.
And of course they do only apologizes when I try to speak with them.
However what is the value of the Neptune?
Perhaps it's a better choice to take the bitcoins.
That is if I don't go to court.
They are really good at fucking up ppl's lifes :/
Dear Sir/Madam.
We can see from our records that you have selected to receive a bonus Titan miner as part of the 2 for 1 offer we ran last year. Due technical issues in the selection process the Titan miner was not correctly registered as a choice and not accounted for. In this case we would like to offer you the following options instead of receiving the bonus Titan miner.
Option 1: Swap the bonus Titan miner for a free Neptune miner expected to ship within the next few weeks.
Or
Option 2: Receive a BTC payment of 3 Bitcoins per bonus Titan miner you were entitled to. (If you select this option please provide a BTC wallet address with your confirmation)
Please reply to this email to confirm your choice before the end of business 17:00 CET on Friday 3rd of April.
Thank you.
KnCMiner Team.
And of course they do only apologizes when I try to speak with them.
However what is the value of the Neptune?
Perhaps it's a better choice to take the bitcoins.
That is if I don't go to court.
They are really good at fucking up ppl's lifes :/
Is it one Neptune cube or a complete Neptune miner? I recently picked up a Neptune Miner for about $900 CAD. I think I got a good deal and it was purchased offline so I didn't have to pay for shipping.
I expect it to be one Neptune miner. Not only a cube. However I want my Titan batch 2. That's what I choosed as a my choice of bonus miner!
And that offer can not be a good deal!
- The bonus neptune was estimated to been shipped in Q2-Q3 -2014. So was Titan batch 2.
- It isn't my fault that it been half a year since it should been delivered. And the value only is 3 btc.
And now Im searching people for a group speak against the company. Please send me a message if you are in the same situation!
Anyone more that got this mail from KnC?
Dear Sir/Madam.
We can see from our records that you have selected to receive a bonus Titan miner as part of the 2 for 1 offer we ran last year. Due technical issues in the selection process the Titan miner was not correctly registered as a choice and not accounted for. In this case we would like to offer you the following options instead of receiving the bonus Titan miner.
Option 1: Swap the bonus Titan miner for a free Neptune miner expected to ship within the next few weeks.
Or
Option 2: Receive a BTC payment of 3 Bitcoins per bonus Titan miner you were entitled to. (If you select this option please provide a BTC wallet address with your confirmation)
Please reply to this email to confirm your choice before the end of business 17:00 CET on Friday 3rd of April.
Thank you.
KnCMiner Team.
And of course they do only apologizes when I try to speak with them.
However what is the value of the Neptune?
Perhaps it's a better choice to take the bitcoins.
That is if I don't go to court.
They are really good at fucking up ppl's lifes :/
Dear Sir/Madam.
We can see from our records that you have selected to receive a bonus Titan miner as part of the 2 for 1 offer we ran last year. Due technical issues in the selection process the Titan miner was not correctly registered as a choice and not accounted for. In this case we would like to offer you the following options instead of receiving the bonus Titan miner.
Option 1: Swap the bonus Titan miner for a free Neptune miner expected to ship within the next few weeks.
Or
Option 2: Receive a BTC payment of 3 Bitcoins per bonus Titan miner you were entitled to. (If you select this option please provide a BTC wallet address with your confirmation)
Please reply to this email to confirm your choice before the end of business 17:00 CET on Friday 3rd of April.
Thank you.
KnCMiner Team.
And of course they do only apologizes when I try to speak with them.
However what is the value of the Neptune?
Perhaps it's a better choice to take the bitcoins.
That is if I don't go to court.
They are really good at fucking up ppl's lifes :/