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Re: Bitcoins Can Inflate Too - Stop worrying about deflation.
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vtlaloc
on 11/03/2014, 16:31:33 UTC
Bitcoin deflation != Historical deflation.

The difference is that when Bitcoin deflates it is instantaneous and world-wide (instant arbitrage opportunity). Bitcoin deflation encourages spending rather than saving because the global economy demands it, contrary to the past deflation of weighted coins, it created a position where the older coins were more valuable than the newer coins. Those coins were not likely to be spent because they were worth more than the face value of the coin.

When gold backed currencies where a "thing" no one much cared about the face value or even which country (as long as the mint was trusted) minted the damn things, indeed the face value was directly tied to weight, all anyone cared about was the gold weight. I'm not sure where you do the idea that they would deflate older coins by minting new ones with less weight and same face value, that's just daft; the gold would simply be remelted - it did not remove gold from circulation (deflation).. Your probably thinking of bullion coins being minted today with metal of value much higher than face...which is a post fiat construct, that has nothing at all to do with gold back currencies.

Bitcoin deflation would encourage spending in 2030 the same way that it does on these forums in 2014, which can be summed up in "I bought a 150k dollar pizza in 09' and we are the new wealthy elite". Any financial system with a highly deflationary currency like bitcoins would ball up and die, as no funds would ever move through the system; Inflation pushes smart money to invest in creating means of production, in to research, and building income producing properties while all that deflationary currency encourages is the building of Scroodge McDuck banks (which in the case of bitcoins you cant even swim through).

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Re: The Facts: Is Dorion Satoshi or Not?
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vtlaloc
on 07/03/2014, 19:33:40 UTC
There is literally no reason to believe Dorian is satoshi over anyone else. Just one reporter decided to randomly pick him, thats all. He COULD be satoshi, but so COULD I. Nobody knows.

Confirming! The reporter randomly picked a man named Satoshi Nakamoto in search of someone named Satoshi Nakamoto, this was done purely by chance with no consideration paid to any other external fact. Heck even you could be named Satoshi Nakamoto!

There is literally no reason to misuse words like random, nobody, and could. There is a real argument to be made about Dorian not founding Bitcoins... I think all of the members of this forum would appreciate a bit more effort.
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Re: Basic IQ test on Satoshi's identity
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vtlaloc
on 07/03/2014, 16:45:11 UTC
five years is a long time. he might have not given much thought about indicating his real name when he wrote the paper. otherwise, he could also very well have changed his mind along the way. why else will he lay so low? it's not as if after that he went around laying hints at his identity to claim his fame. its pretty clear he doesnt want to be disturbed.

Next question on the IQ test.

Would a person who didn't want to be anonymous from the beginning, refuse every request to give any shred of information about himself, and be so technically careful that no one can find a trace of his identity in any log?

Surely the people running this forum had his IP address and traced it through and found it was running through proxies (because many were very curious about who was this person they had never heard of in the field)

(read the Newsweek article and see what Gavin said. Confirm by reading all of Satoshi's posts here in this forum and on the Cryptography discussion list)

All those who voted "Yes" have an IQ I would guess below 120, maybe even lower.

(I would have said 100 or below, but we have to account for smart people who are ignorant about the history of Satoshi's interaction on this forum and the technical capabilities of tracking someone via their IP address)

i actually dont understand whatever logic you are trying to explain.

the point is, i doubt he wanted to be found out. even if he did, it would be voluntarily, in his own time, whoever knows when that would have been. but in the meantime, it's pretty clear he wants to protect his anonymity, yet having the right to claim the invention as his own when the time is ripe.

i guess dumbass reporters are hard to predict.

The logic is:

1. If I am not concerned about being anonymous, then I will not make sure I use Tor to hide my IP address every time I communicate with the world such that I can not be traced. And I will not ignore EVERY ONE of the many questions asking for information about me.

2. Satoshi was thus obviously trying to be anonymous from the very start. And thus he would never have used his real name.

Any other factors and ideas you might have are logically irrelevant.


All those who voted "Yes" have an IQ I would guess below 120, maybe even lower.


or an IQ higher than yours because they can think of a reason you can't :·>

The above logic excludes most other possible reasons.

Even if you tried to argue that he didn't know he was using Tor and had been setup by a man-in-the-middle, then why would he refuse to answer even the very simplest questions about himself.

Hey I've seen you around, I thought you were smarter than that.

unfortunately i strongly believe this guy might be it. everybody wants to believe the real Satoshi is pulling some incredible smokescreen but i highly doubt that is the case. he could have used his name for many reasons, for pride, for his own amusement, or he simply didnt think much of it. i dont know, but eccentric behaviour isnt new.

i feel like im bordering on blasphemy here but Satoshi is an engineering genius, but not a God. people can be prone to lapses in that way. it's not a pretty story but it is what it is.

Amazing how your emotional belief trumps the irrefutable logic.

Any way, it is expected with the Bell Curve that many of you will be below 100 IQ. I can't imagine what it is like. I don't know how to help you. I guess leave you alone.

Apparently you think he would think that he could be anonymous enough and the later accept or deny if he is the Satoshi. But since he is an engineer he would know that his ISP records could then be forward traced to see if he was on Tor at the same times as this forum was receiving posts from Satoshi coming from Tor. Being an engineer he would know that using his real name and taking a chance of getting found would drastically lower his options for remaining anonymous or not.

Rather if he wanted to leave his options open with the most certainty that he would remain in control, he would use a pseudonym then later he could reveal who he was or not.

We know from the logic I explained upthread that he was trying to be anonymous. So to argue that he was lax or not focused on being anonymous is illogical. He was obviously making a concerted and strict effort to be anonymous.

What reason would he have had to feign being so concerned with his anonymity, yet so careless to give it up by giving his real name?

As everyone plainly knows we live in a 4 dimensional universe where people's emotional state at the last point in their life reverberates backwards through time to every other point. Since soon after the paper (its not at all possibly that his desire for privacy was an outgrowth of attention received); Satoshi wanted to remain anonymous his desires would have clearly undone the mistake of using his real name to begin with (clearly this could not have been his real name).

Thank god for the retrograde movement of desires which create a standardized emotional space envelope; It keeps us all from saying "derp i shouldn't have done that" because its not like after using your real name once you can say don't call me that any more without being even more suspicious.  

I'm not saying that he is who Newsweek claims he is, i'm saying we live in a world where not all actions are rational or consistent with people's long term goals. Just because a smart person mad an irrational error does not make the error impossible; remember this is something that cant be undone after the first instance.  
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Re: **Breaking news** Satoshi Nakamotos identity revealed
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vtlaloc
on 06/03/2014, 21:48:19 UTC
Huh?  Great lengths like using his real name?  This makes no sense.  If this was his real name all along how come nobody has found him yet?

This is like the twilight zone here.

What likely happened is that he used his real name very early on in the project since at the time there was no real reason to hide, but as things progressed he got spooked at some point and started being very careful. At that point however it was already to late to use a pseudonym without raising even more suspicion; imagine saying don't call me "Satoshi Nakamoto" any more, from this day fourth I shall be known as "Little John" its like announcing to everyone my real name is actually "Satoshi Nakamoto" and I dun messed up.

What most people say was that he was very careful towards the end, and assumed he had always been careful...clearly on day one i would have been hard to predict that bit coins would be where they are today.
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Re: Is China fucking with us so they can get cheap coins?
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vtlaloc
on 18/12/2013, 21:00:48 UTC
I think its very possible that all this news out of china is just so the Chinese government can scoop up all the coins for cheap and then just by changing there minds drive the price back up to the moon.

Think about it, all they have to do is turn around and say, "we made a mistake, bitcoin is great, you can all do business in it"

Man, what a scam!



Yes! the worlds second largest economy, made this announcement so then can steal the bread crumbs from your pocket. Because a country with 8.2 trillion in GDP and 1.3 trillion in held US debt needs to lower the prices of bitcoins in order to be able to buy some.

I'm not saying the price of bitcoins wont go back up, I'm saying that statements like this smell of panic.

see this is exactly what im talking about. any individual politician doesn't have direct access to the balance sheet of the state. they dont own the states balance sheet to the same extent that you and i own the funds on our banks balance sheet. even in the states an extremely competent politician may accumulate 100million dollars by the end of his career. this is pennies compared to the total tax revenues.

China may have a balance sheet of how ever many trillions of dollars but the individual politicians cant just go out and spend that on a yaht for themselves. What politicians do is throw around the weight of the states balance sheet in exchange for kickbacks. They may grant some corporation a billion dollars worth of benefits for a 1 million dollar kickback. Or they may use the leverage of the central bank to pump and dump the bitcoin market while getting their own PERSONAL finances in and out at the tops and bottoms.

This is a much more plausible argument than the OP.

Consider china for a moment: Strong capital controls, strong censorship of speech, vast resources dedicated to tracking personal activity, brooding civil unrest (in part do to corruption scandals). China's main objective in the next few decades is to manage it's social transformation, and they believe they can do it with government control; now do you think china would see bitcoins as a help or a hindrance to achieve this goals? lets face it there isn't a whole lot about bitcoins for the Chinese government to like.

Now its entirely possible for individuals within the government to act in self interest (and enrich themselves while bucking the party line) however surly there are more efficient and less public ways to do that (remember being a corruption sacrificial lamb in china is no joke).

I think the most probable explanation is that this is something China doesn't understand and cant control, thus they don't like it (don't blame them i wouldn't either in their position).

When people act rationally a conspiracy is unnecessary in order to explain their behavior.     
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Re: Is China fucking with us so they can get cheap coins?
by
vtlaloc
on 18/12/2013, 19:56:13 UTC
I think its very possible that all this news out of china is just so the Chinese government can scoop up all the coins for cheap and then just by changing there minds drive the price back up to the moon.

Think about it, all they have to do is turn around and say, "we made a mistake, bitcoin is great, you can all do business in it"

Man, what a scam!



Yes! the worlds second largest economy, made this announcement so then can steal the bread crumbs from your pocket. Because a country with 8.2 trillion in GDP and 1.3 trillion in held US debt needs to lower the prices of bitcoins in order to be able to buy some.

I'm not saying the price of bitcoins wont go back up, I'm saying that statements like this smell of panic.
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Re: Why Bitcoin is doomed to fail, and there's nothing you can do about it.
by
vtlaloc
on 18/12/2013, 19:30:17 UTC
Actually I was wondering, what if some beneficiary of current system buys all BTC and destroys his hard drive? Wouldn't it mean that BTC is lost?

That is a valid point. The same flaw has gold. What if someone buy all gold and destroys it with some acid?
-> keep your hands aways from gold!  Angry

you mean with acids like Aqua Regia? yes because that's how you can REALLY destroy elements, with acid!...its not like its part of a processes for gold purification or anything...

Congratulations you've added a misunderstanding of elements to your misunderstanding of bitcoins.
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vtlaloc
on 25/11/2013, 22:12:56 UTC
Hello,

I am making this terrible post so that I may head to the economics section and take part in discussions that caught my interest about ponzi schemes. I have been lukering here for a about two years but really didn't feel like posting till now.

I don't really have any general questions because I understand the search function.

Apologies to the people that wasted time reading this bad post; with any luck it will be the last one.