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Interesting developments:
I emailed Tf today and advised him that if he did not report that a crime had been committed to Australian Law Enforcement within 48hrs. that I would do so.
It was a surprise to me but he responded promptly that he would do so and followed up with a reference number filed with NSW police. Of course a group of us will follow up on this to make sure law enforcement follows through on all aspects!
I emailed Tf today and advised him that if he did not report that a crime had been committed to Australian Law Enforcement within 48hrs. that I would do so.
It was a surprise to me but he responded promptly that he would do so and followed up with a reference number filed with NSW police. Of course a group of us will follow up on this to make sure law enforcement follows through on all aspects!
Any Update?
48h in the btc world seem like a whole weekend.
Interesting developments:
I emailed Tf today and advised him that if he did not report that a crime had been committed to Australian Law Enforcement within 48hrs. that I would do so.
It was a surprise to me but he responded promptly that he would do so and followed up with a reference number filed with NSW police. Of course a group of us will follow up on this to make sure law enforcement follows through on all aspects!
I emailed Tf today and advised him that if he did not report that a crime had been committed to Australian Law Enforcement within 48hrs. that I would do so.
It was a surprise to me but he responded promptly that he would do so and followed up with a reference number filed with NSW police. Of course a group of us will follow up on this to make sure law enforcement follows through on all aspects!
Any Update?
Re: CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available
How about this one:
1N1HvopM4Q5Kedokq3nXyDEzxmWqe9GupE
from a previous failed coinlenders project ...
you find it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133354.msg1421353#msg1421353
Which leads to a transaction made here(long before the hack):
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/6047089e8ebf9a5b11aa4f235d67c97a22017ddcebd6631244af21e1f8e0e4b0
Which then leads to:
https://blockchain.info/de/address/1EU29NuckRY8VfVoDJCe8w6a5LQTFS8wk1
I could not find anything about the second address, beside a very new reddit post which kinda confused me even more:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pw46j/someone_just_transferred_0095_from_my_inputsio/
1N1HvopM4Q5Kedokq3nXyDEzxmWqe9GupE
from a previous failed coinlenders project ...
you find it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133354.msg1421353#msg1421353
Quote from: Tradefortress
Signature from the main address of 1N1HvopM4Q5Kedokq3nXyDEzxmWqe9GupE:
Which leads to a transaction made here(long before the hack):
https://blockchain.info/de/tx/6047089e8ebf9a5b11aa4f235d67c97a22017ddcebd6631244af21e1f8e0e4b0
Which then leads to:
https://blockchain.info/de/address/1EU29NuckRY8VfVoDJCe8w6a5LQTFS8wk1
I could not find anything about the second address, beside a very new reddit post which kinda confused me even more:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pw46j/someone_just_transferred_0095_from_my_inputsio/
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I created an Inputs.io wallet a couple of months ago with a good password and 2FA enabled. I deposited 0.1BTC from a blockchain wallet to check out the interface.
The last time I logged in was Oct 2.
I just received an email saying that 0.095BTC had been transferred from my wallet. I did NOT initiate or authorize this transaction.
I've sent an email to Inputs.io support and they replied within 4 minutes saying that they will look into it.
Here is the receiving address: https://blockchain.info/address/15Ctwosw7VCNHp5Rp1ZoviLaV41nZ59spx
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The last time I logged in was Oct 2.
I just received an email saying that 0.095BTC had been transferred from my wallet. I did NOT initiate or authorize this transaction.
I've sent an email to Inputs.io support and they replied within 4 minutes saying that they will look into it.
Here is the receiving address: https://blockchain.info/address/15Ctwosw7VCNHp5Rp1ZoviLaV41nZ59spx
....
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I just looked into some transactions of this wallet and it seems it sent money to another account, which in turn sent money to another and so on. Eventually it ends here:
https://blockchain.info/address/1EU29NuckRY8VfVoDJCe8w6a5LQTFS8wk1
It seems that there's multiple "forwarders" that collect money in small amounts from people's accounts and then pass it on 5-10 times before reaching the above mentioned wallet.
https://blockchain.info/address/1EU29NuckRY8VfVoDJCe8w6a5LQTFS8wk1
It seems that there's multiple "forwarders" that collect money in small amounts from people's accounts and then pass it on 5-10 times before reaching the above mentioned wallet.
I have only 2.08 BTC at coinlenders, but if the costs are proportional to the amount which is outstanding per person in case of success and if there are at least no costs in excess of the money/BTC gained, I would be happy to join the class action!
+1
Quote from: TradeFortress
Oct 23th PST time (24th Aus time). A second hack occurred on the Oct 26th (the other 160 BTC).
The compromise was done through compromising multiple of my old email addresses in a chain (compromise one which was the recovery email for another), which led them to lailai625@hotmail.com which received emails forwarded from admin@glados.cc. The attacker was able to reset Linode and Apis networks passwords. Email forwarding was disabled on the 26th (PST, 27th Aus).
I've already posted login logs for Linode on bitcointalk, I've attached logins for apisnetworks which were also reset.
5: Yes, to linode manager. The attacker on the Oct 26th used Lish to skip linode manager and directly shell into the Linode, bypassing 2FA on the manager.
4: The incomplete logs were obtained through lish logview's buffer. The attacker installed mc (midnight commander) and used it to transfer files containing credentials via FTP to 0;15Hd@mastersearching.com:mercedes49@69.85.88.31. From the midnight commander view, the remote server also has another bit.php file not from Inputs. I speculate that this is taken from another service.
3: I do not see where I have access linode password reset logs. I've sent a support ticket to linode requesting such, and authorizing them to provide it to anyone who asks. Ticket ID 2560514
The compromise was done through compromising multiple of my old email addresses in a chain (compromise one which was the recovery email for another), which led them to lailai625@hotmail.com which received emails forwarded from admin@glados.cc. The attacker was able to reset Linode and Apis networks passwords. Email forwarding was disabled on the 26th (PST, 27th Aus).
I've already posted login logs for Linode on bitcointalk, I've attached logins for apisnetworks which were also reset.
5: Yes, to linode manager. The attacker on the Oct 26th used Lish to skip linode manager and directly shell into the Linode, bypassing 2FA on the manager.
4: The incomplete logs were obtained through lish logview's buffer. The attacker installed mc (midnight commander) and used it to transfer files containing credentials via FTP to 0;15Hd@mastersearching.com:mercedes49@69.85.88.31. From the midnight commander view, the remote server also has another bit.php file not from Inputs. I speculate that this is taken from another service.
3: I do not see where I have access linode password reset logs. I've sent a support ticket to linode requesting such, and authorizing them to provide it to anyone who asks. Ticket ID 2560514
It's a lot to digest... I'll update my opening post tomorrow.
Its still missing all the relevant information and that it took him 1 month to just give these informations is more then disappointing. To be honest if i had 200k+ invested into this at the moment i would demand to have his real-id just so i could get a hold of him.
Another thing is that you really wanna stop the class-action lawsuit in light of these response? What after all beside that the hacker installed mc wasnt known before? I seriously start believing you are just another sockpuppet if that happens.
Re: CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available
Was the guy really running a lending operation handling over 5000 coins on loan? That would be 200 borrowers of 25 coins each. Did he have that much business? Does anyone even know any coin lenders borrowers? There could be none. A straight up ponzi. It's already known he was a high stakes gambler.
+1If he would have stuff lended out he could have gathered that information allready and posted it, but seriously do you believe he payed back 930btc and only 20btc of that where reported here in the forums, that would mean that coinlenders didnt had roughly 5k btc in it, no it would mean it had 230k btc in it .... seriously bs. I dont believe anthing TF or any of his forum chills/sockpups say at the moment. At the end he seemed to have enough time to gamble and bring other services back online.
Some people are just insane, the money is lost, if we get back 50% its still 2.000 btc, in usd: +500.000$ that he scammed us out.
Did you contact your lawyer instead of sitting in the Forum?
Did you contact NSW Police?
Did you contact Financial Regulation Services in Australia?
I just put all the data into an excel spreadsheet. (Should have done that from the outset.)
Precisely 20 bitcoins have been reimbursed to Inputs.io users, according to the limited data that was given to me. Which means nothing, but I was surprised.
Precisely 20 bitcoins have been reimbursed to Inputs.io users, according to the limited data that was given to me. Which means nothing, but I was surprised.
Nearly 900 BTC has been distributed to Inputs users. This can be verified by looking at the 1GLados address.
Yes but unfortunately the coinlender deposits are much more than that.
And ofcourse nobody of the 900 BTC Receiver reported here
Re: CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available
@braydon,
just chill man. Nothing you can do now. Why do you work yourself up somuch?
just chill man. Nothing you can do now. Why do you work yourself up somuch?
I´m sorry, my friend. But this situation is just too much for me...
Did you contact your lawyer? With the amount you got in i would clearly suggest that. My amount is clearly to low to be of any interest for the authorities, lawyers, etc.
Why wait? Tradefortress had all the time he needed to make a statement, for me its clearly looking like he is prepairing against a lawsuit/court order/whatever.
Dont wait for any community attempts to bring him down, because obviously that wont happen, its allways single people that have to take action, sitting in the forum wont help you.
It's too arbitrary. I hope that he's consulting with others before he makes these decisions. He should understand that there are many people -like myself- that would like to assist, and aren't out with pitchforks.
The thing is if he would actually care about that, he would investigate the alleged "hack"/get the information to somebody that would be able to help, but he simply doesn't do, but he has time to bring his coinchat service up again.
D.h. jeder Händler der BTC benutzt soll also eigene Wallets, bitcoind und co. dafür aufsetzen, fertige Dienste dafür nutzen ist nicht, und wenn der Händler Marmelade verkauft und von IT keine Ahnung hat, naja dann gibts eben keine Marmelade per Bitcoin.
das einzig ware ist eine cold wallet (oder paper wallet). ALLE coins auf deinem normalen alltags- internetrechner zu belassen ist ebenso risikoreich.
Ja kommt wir transferieren alle unsere Bitcoins in offline/coldwallets und vergessen das ganze Experiment?
Wie zum Teufel soll man damit handeln?
Wie zum Teufel soll ein Dienst wie lieferservice.de seine Bitcoins in coldwallets haben?
Wo währen wir heute wenn nicht einer mal btc zu mt.gox zum Verkauf geschoben hätte? Und vorallem am Anfang auch abwartete bis sie verkauft werden?
Diese Ausrede "dont use onlinewallets" ist einfach nicht auszuhalten, vorallem nicht nachdem für inputs.io im gesamtem Forum so agressiv Werbung gemacht wurde.
Re: Inputs.io | Instant Payments, Offchain API, Secure Wallet, 235k+ BTC transferred
It's not so much don't use them as don't put more than you are willing to lose in them. Like how much cash you would take on a night out in a rough part of town.
If i just want a Money-trashbin i can just light the Euros up myself. No need to go through various different points before i have an verified Account on an Exchange and can actually throw my money away.
If i would take money out in a rough part of town i bet you i come back with it or i wont come back at all, i would be prepared to get attacked and would be knowing so in the first place.
I wasn't prepared that somebody that posts about security-yada everywhere has in the end not followed one of his own advices, he even had time todo security-audits on other websites and tell these operators that they dont know shit about security, yet the email-address linked to the hosting company wasnt even using 2FA? That doesnt add up at all.
I wasn't prepared that this whole forum was a long setup con, that the majority of hero/donator/vip users are sockpups/chills of the alleged Scammer and kept on defending him well after he already was known as problematic. In general i gonna stay away from doing any business in this forum whatsoever before this gets fully reviewed by outside investigators. If this involves halting this whole community ... who cares ... obviously not the scammer himself.
- Who beside TF was involved into inputs.io/coinlenders.com creation/maintenance/programming/support/whateverstaff?
- Which are the bunch of other forum-personas he created?
- Who are part of his fraudulent trustnetwork?
Let me tell you this otherwise, if you would made up an account on ebay today, and buy something from a seller that has nothing but good reviews ... would you not trust him? I should probably stop trusting anyone at all and just start shooting anyone that looks at me ...
Re: Inputs.io | Instant Payments, Offchain API, Secure Wallet, 235k+ BTC transferred
since he was so highly trusted by default i assume someone knows his real life identity?
please tell me this is the case...
please tell me this is the case...
any news on this!? Why when TF is a scammer he was in the default trust list!? I don't understand this kind of practice !!!
"I told you"
Again i blame the forum infrastructure for this, it looks like even moderators have pointed the admin towards the situation regarding TF months ago, nothing happened from his site, he let him continue to lure new people into thinking he is trust able. Saying that is negligent is an understatement of this in my opinion.
Ontop of that TF deserves simply no trust by what he just stated in the last days, he contradicted lots of his old statements, even recommendations he made to other site owners, if anyone is to blame here it is himself and not users that believed the trust-scheme of this forum.
Another thing you "dont use webwallets" people should think about ... where would bitcoin be without any onlinewallets? If nobody ever transferred generated coins to Mt. Gox and various other sites in the first place, where would bitcoin be?
Re: CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available
I had a little over 3.4 in CL. The CDs still show on my page. Mine are spread into 3 CDs about a week apart. I've got one coming due next week. I'll withdraw if I can but somehow I don't think that will happen.
TradeFortress seemed like an upstanding enough person and I started very small and got braver over time. I'm disappointed as it does not seem the promises of security were kept. I hope that some of this can be rectified.
I wonder if there is any police investigation. I noticed this UK based company http://www.sytech-consultants.com/ that claim to do Digital Forensics on bitcoin.
TradeFortress seemed like an upstanding enough person and I started very small and got braver over time. I'm disappointed as it does not seem the promises of security were kept. I hope that some of this can be rectified.
I wonder if there is any police investigation. I noticed this UK based company http://www.sytech-consultants.com/ that claim to do Digital Forensics on bitcoin.
http://www.sytech-consultants.com/blog/2013/worlds-first-stolen-bitcoin-tracing-service-and-bitcoin-data-recovery-high-profile-digital-forensic-services-company-sytech-embraces-bitcoin
Drop Simon an email there.
He'll get back in touch with you about this as he's keen to help out in the Bitcoin world:
simon@sytech-consultants.com
So systech started an investigation on this? Nice to hear if so.
There's no way he can give everyone a full refund, because he doesn't have 4000 BTC for himself. He's doing the best he can by giving away his personal funds, so imo he deserves a little respect.
You are kidding right?
It's pretty obvious he has 4100 Bitcoins of OUR BITCOINS
he is backing him up because that's TF shill account
No it's not. If you don't believe you can ask a moderator to compare IP's. I'm not even from the same continent
.I'm not backing anyone up, I just refuse to draw my own conclusion until some decent facts are on the table.
Because no one in the world ever heard about proxies, renting servers anywhere in the world or vpns.
Edit: And your are not backing up anyone ... no you arent ...