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Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Hi! Is there a way to tell AM to subtract the miner and pools fees from the earning statistics? For example, AM says that I'm earning $21,72 daily with MPH. But (correct me if I'm wrong) that doesn't account to the 0.9% pool fee plus the 0.2% fee deducted from exchange. It also doesn't account for the miner fee of moving BTC to my wallet. It would be useful to be able to add a manual fee % that AM will deduct from the earning calculations.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Hi! it seems that AM is displaying crazy numbers for zpool and SHA-3:
https://i.imgur.com/1hF33IQ.png
This can't be right!
https://i.imgur.com/1hF33IQ.png
This can't be right!
I am seeing the same thing. It normally says anything from $2-$8 a day, however, now it's saying $1,262. I tried restarting the miner but it just says the same thing. It's mining on Zpool. Any ideas?
Yeah, they changed it. Here's the tweet https://twitter.com/_zpool_/status/942398598557388800
Disabling keccak until it's fixed in AM.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Hi! it seems that AM is displaying crazy numbers for zpool and SHA-3:
https://i.imgur.com/1hF33IQ.png
This can't be right!
https://i.imgur.com/1hF33IQ.png
This can't be right!
Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][HashTap™][FlexFee™][SegWit] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█
Crackfoo,
You have gone above and beyond, I can not say much more.
You have managed to get the site back up and running with a new server in under 24 hours, fantastic job from someone that runs this service on his own.
I just hope that the other miners think the same way, and that all the complaints stop and so on.
You have gone above and beyond, I can not say much more.
You have managed to get the site back up and running with a new server in under 24 hours, fantastic job from someone that runs this service on his own.
I just hope that the other miners think the same way, and that all the complaints stop and so on.
Thanks. Still not where I want to be yet in terms of stability. But I'll need to wait untill everything is caughtup and running on their expected schedules. There's still a backlog of earnings to process. We're down to 5.6million records and decreasing while yesterday we were 8.9million and growing so we're at least moving in the right direction. It's a bit tricky and slower because the pool is still live and would rather not close stratums for 12-24h just to play catchup. We'll get there nothing's being lost.
I agree with the original post. Thank you so much for your hard work! I work on IT and I know how tricky live migrations can be, specially with the amount of data you're handling. I came to zpool from the recent NH debacle and I'm glad to see that zpool has this level of commitment.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Well, since NiceHash got hacked and won't come back on at least 24hrs, I pointed my miners to zpool. But right now it is showing some crazy numbers https://imgur.com/a/XGUbU
Either that or somehow Lyra2rev2 is paying like crazy!
Either that or somehow Lyra2rev2 is paying like crazy!
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Hi!
It seems like AM is doing wrong calculations in coin prices for Nicehash
https://i.imgur.com/QepAJ17.jpg
That or someone crazy is paying a lot for Lyra2REv2. Probably Scrypt is wrong too.
It seems like AM is doing wrong calculations in coin prices for Nicehash
https://i.imgur.com/QepAJ17.jpg
That or someone crazy is paying a lot for Lyra2REv2. Probably Scrypt is wrong too.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Hi!
I was using AM version 4.0.0. Everything normal. I finally updated to version 4.0.4 and didn't pay much attention to it since everything seemed good. However now I've noticed that AM has not switched for more than 21 hours. I've checked the profit switching details and I only see 2 algos in there:
https://i.imgur.com/CsQonnn.jpg
Is this normal now? In version 4.0.0 every enabled algo appeared in the profit switching window.
Every single algo for NiceHash is enabled in settings. I've not changed anything since Ver. 4.0.0.
Oh another question, where is the benchmark feature? I can't find it anywhere.
EDIT: My bad, I was running 4.0.3 Updated to 4.0.4 and everything's good again. Still can't find where do I run the benchmarks though...
https://i.imgur.com/CsQonnn.jpg
Is this normal now? In version 4.0.0 every enabled algo appeared in the profit switching window.
Every single algo for NiceHash is enabled in settings. I've not changed anything since Ver. 4.0.0.
Oh another question, where is the benchmark feature? I can't find it anywhere.
EDIT: My bad, I was running 4.0.3 Updated to 4.0.4 and everything's good again. Still can't find where do I run the benchmarks though...
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
I get that FOMO when using Nicehash, because in AM, the daily rate it shows is usually much lower than the "profit" that MPH or Zpool show. I'll mine at NH for a few hours then ask myself why am I mining at such a lower rate than what I was getting at MPH for instance. Then I wonder, why am I even bothering chasing coins, and go back to mining my favorite single coins and turn off profit switching.
I want to like NH, but it's got big fees, you only get paid what the buyers "market" will pay out, and just doesn't seem as profitable as the others. I think there is a thread here, where someone put 3 equal rigs on NH, MPH, and ZPool for seven days and surprisingly ZPool came out ahead. I was always hesitant to use ZPool because it's had some bad reviews in the past of them "stealing" large percentages of hashrates, intentionally switching your rigs to less profitable algos because they need to level out others and more.
I think I'll give Zpool a go through AM for 24 hours and see what happens.
I want to like NH, but it's got big fees, you only get paid what the buyers "market" will pay out, and just doesn't seem as profitable as the others. I think there is a thread here, where someone put 3 equal rigs on NH, MPH, and ZPool for seven days and surprisingly ZPool came out ahead. I was always hesitant to use ZPool because it's had some bad reviews in the past of them "stealing" large percentages of hashrates, intentionally switching your rigs to less profitable algos because they need to level out others and more.
I think I'll give Zpool a go through AM for 24 hours and see what happens.
I tried MPH for two weeks and it didn't make the cut for me. I have 6 cards and my hashrate got divided into so many coins that it took forever to exchange on the first week. On the second week I manually limited the algos to Daggerhashimoto and Equihash and earnings were still lower than NH. I think the reason is what I stated before, by the time they exchange the price of the coin isn't the same. I barely made 0.010 BTC with MPH in one week, while I consistently make 0.017 BTC in NH per week.
The high fees are really an illusion produced by the "lower fees" of the other pools. Yeah, you mine at 0.9% in MPH, but you still pay a fee for exchange, cash out and miner fee. When you add all the fees it's pretty much the same (still lower, but not that much to say you're earning way more). Yeah, NH charges a 4% fee for payments to an external wallet, but that's it (of course there's also the miner fee). And if you have enough hash power to make about 0.03 BTC per day, then mining to the NH wallet gets cheaper and cheaper.
Can't argue about the NH market. Yeah, we're limited to what it's wanted there, but that's never been an issue so far (a year or so).
I've tried all the methods available, except solo mining. And at least for my needs (low hash rate friendly, quick cash no hassle), NH is the way to go.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
So do you think it is worth it to do some rigs on Awesome Miner single coin, and some rigs use Nice Hash and use profit switching?
Depends on what you're aiming to:
If you're interested in a certain coin, then profit doesn't matter. You need that coin no matter what (developing stuff or whatever the coin is used for)
If you want to play the market and probably cash higher in the long run, then you should mine a profitable coin and probably hold it until the market price is good for you. However you don't know exactly when this will happen.
I you don't want to be bothered with exchanges, then you could use services like MininPoolHub that do the exchange for you. However you're still earning the coins you mine and the service do the exchange to whatever you want. The exchange gamble still applies. Only difference is that you don't get to decide when to exchange, because this is done automatically. You could have mined at a profitable time but the service exchanges at a lower price. The opposite can also be true.
Also, since you're earning in coins and these services have minimums for exchanges, the more different coins you mine the longer it takes to reach a minimum for exchange on each coin. This is because your hashing power gets divided into more coins.
With services like NiceHash you don't need to be worried about the coin market that much, because profits comes from whatever is most wanted in the NiceHash market (that your hardware can mine). Of course, it's very likely that the most profitable coins in the cryptocurrency market are the most wanted in the NiceHash market. Also, it doesn't matter which algorithm you mine, you're always paid in BTC at the profit of the moment of mining. That is, every time you send a valid share it is added to your balance at the current exchange rate (BTC price / algorithm price). And they have fixed days for payment so you always know when you're going to cash.
IMO if you're looking for quick profit with no hassle, services like NiceHash are the way to go. But these services are not necessarily the most profitable in a longer window of time.
The good thing is, AwesomeMiner can be used in any of these scenarios.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
That's kind of the knock on profit switching in general. When a coin jumps to the top, thousands of miner's profit switching algos switch to it, spiking the difficulty, thus knocking the coin back down the list. In the meantime, depending on how often your profit switching algo checks, it will keep on mining the "not as profitable" coin. Then you have to wait for the auto-conversion from the pool which can take many many minutes to hours, and by that time the coin has tanked in value... so you actually get less BTC than you would have just mining the coin and holding or waiting and manually changing to BTC.
I personally feel it's better to look at a coin's average... maybe 24 hours is a good indicator, but I prefer longer averages to the tune of 3 days to a week. You will get much more consistent profits by mining a coin that stays popular at #3 all week than trying to chase coins that tank before you can see the profits. It's kind of counter-intuitive. I'm hoping Patrike can add some more customization in determining the parameters on how the profit switching works. Whattomine.com already has parameters to look at 24 hour, 2 day, and 3 day averages.
I personally feel it's better to look at a coin's average... maybe 24 hours is a good indicator, but I prefer longer averages to the tune of 3 days to a week. You will get much more consistent profits by mining a coin that stays popular at #3 all week than trying to chase coins that tank before you can see the profits. It's kind of counter-intuitive. I'm hoping Patrike can add some more customization in determining the parameters on how the profit switching works. Whattomine.com already has parameters to look at 24 hour, 2 day, and 3 day averages.
This is something most people don't get. Constantly chasing most profitable coin doesn't make the cut in the long run. You could be mining a coin at a profit right now, but by the time you have enough of that coin to exchange it the price could have go down. Of course, it could go up too.
TBH, chasing short term profit mining only works with NiceHash. They make a log of your profit at a given time and add it to your balance. It doesn't matter if the price drops later, the coins you mined at a certain price get immediately converted at that exchange rate and added to your balance. In sites like MiningPoolHub you are actually earning coins. MPH only automates the exchange process and they have minimums for this, so it's very likely that the price will be different by the time of exchange than the at time you mined the coin. I'm not really sure but I think zpool is like NiceHash too.
So, for those mining coins directly, it's better to stick to one coin that have a good profitable average in a week.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Hi patrike! AwesomeMiner is now correctly switching dual mining and everything seems to be working with NiceHash again. Thanks.
However, I'm still seeing some issues with the profile groups. I've made a detailed post here so you can visualize it better: http://imgur.com/a/HgY55
I don't know if this happens in the other services or with pools since I'm only using NiceHash.
Hope this helps! If you need anything else let me know.
However, I'm still seeing some issues with the profile groups. I've made a detailed post here so you can visualize it better: http://imgur.com/a/HgY55
I don't know if this happens in the other services or with pools since I'm only using NiceHash.
Hope this helps! If you need anything else let me know.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
First of all, I did identify a scenario with Profile groups in combination with dual hashrates and the profit switcher that wasn't correct - so thanks for pointing that out before.
For the second scenario, it's important to understand that that the Profitability information in the log file is listing the primary hashrates. It might be that Decred primary hashrate is more profitable tha Sia primary hashrate, but you may have configured a different dual (secondary) hashrates for them, and when used together with Ethereum, it's their dual hashrates that is used for the calculation. Maybe I should log the dual hashrate profits as well?
For the second scenario, it's important to understand that that the Profitability information in the log file is listing the primary hashrates. It might be that Decred primary hashrate is more profitable tha Sia primary hashrate, but you may have configured a different dual (secondary) hashrates for them, and when used together with Ethereum, it's their dual hashrates that is used for the calculation. Maybe I should log the dual hashrate profits as well?
You're welcome. I like to troubleshoot stuff and AM interests me so I want it to work efficiently. I hope you re-enable BTC payments soon so I can buy it, I don't have access to foreign currency (I'm from Venezuela).
About the dual hash rate. I'm not sure if you're already doing it, but I think it would probably be better if AM stored the dual hash rates separately from the single ones: ETH, SIA, ETH+SIA for example. It would also make it clearer for the user when reading the profitability screen because you could exactly specify which algorithm is the most profitable instead of just showing an asterisk. And of course, logging that would be even clearer. For reference, that's how NiceHash Miner Legacy does it:
Code:
[11:05:37] [MiningSession] Current device profits:
Profits for GPU-c3fc469b-cd33-e0a8-6fbc-acbe58527f41 (GPU#1 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB):
PROFIT = 0.000457279646 (SPEED = 23762687.1428571 | NHSMA = 0.0192436) [Claymore_DaggerHashimoto]
PROFIT = 0.000485033964 (SPEED = 23305100/178602550 | NHSMA = 0.0192436/0.0002047) [Claymore_DaggerPascal]
PROFIT = 0.000453488602 (SPEED = 22321460/186011140 | NHSMA = 0.0192436/0.00012872) [Claymore_DaggerDecred]
PROFIT = 0.000473268058 (SPEED = 22276380/24596530 | NHSMA = 0.0192436/0.00181287) [Claymore_DaggerLbry]
PROFIT = 0.000485673668 (SPEED = 23294992/264008472 | NHSMA = 0.0192436/0.00014164) [Claymore_DaggerSia]
MOST PROFITABLE ALGO: Claymore_DaggerSia, PROFIT: 0.000485673668
Profits for GPU-c3fc469b-cd33-e0a8-6fbc-acbe58527f41 (GPU#1 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB):
PROFIT = 0.000457279646 (SPEED = 23762687.1428571 | NHSMA = 0.0192436) [Claymore_DaggerHashimoto]
PROFIT = 0.000485033964 (SPEED = 23305100/178602550 | NHSMA = 0.0192436/0.0002047) [Claymore_DaggerPascal]
PROFIT = 0.000453488602 (SPEED = 22321460/186011140 | NHSMA = 0.0192436/0.00012872) [Claymore_DaggerDecred]
PROFIT = 0.000473268058 (SPEED = 22276380/24596530 | NHSMA = 0.0192436/0.00181287) [Claymore_DaggerLbry]
PROFIT = 0.000485673668 (SPEED = 23294992/264008472 | NHSMA = 0.0192436/0.00014164) [Claymore_DaggerSia]
MOST PROFITABLE ALGO: Claymore_DaggerSia, PROFIT: 0.000485673668
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
For Ethereum the value is correctly higher on the single profile, as it also includes SIA for dual mining, while it's not for the group profile. I will have to investigate if there is a problem with group profiles not including secondary coins correctly - that's the only scenario I can think of right now. I will get back to you on this.
Thank you.
I just witnessed how a switch from EHT+SIA to ETH+DCR didn't include the correct command line, even using my single profile. I checked the log and found where this happens. Only included the relevant part to see that it came from ETH+SIA (line 4, command at line 57), profitability for DCR got higher and then the switch happens at line 291 (command at line 330).
https://pastebin.com/99jGt4tA
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
OK, I will take a look. Did you have any information from the Profit switching tab to share as well? Where the actual calculations incorrect?
I left AM working overnight with the sinlge profile and it seems to switch correctly to other coins. I saw some succesful switches to Pascal and Decred.
That was with 3.2.4 and I'm writing this hours after 3.2.5. I'll keep an eye out for this.
EDIT: Nope, issue is still there. Checked what you asked and yes, the profit switching tab value is wrong (only checked ethereum). Everything is on screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/W0eH3d0.jpg
Maybe AM is ignoring secondary coins on group profiles? Judging by the command line it is also ignoring device profiles (missing -dcri value in group profile command line)
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Something weird is happening with the managed profit mining profile groups. I made 1 profile for a GTX 1060 with all my benchmarks and then I made a profile group with 4 of these profiles (I have a rig with 4 identical gtx1060). Using the single profile works fine with Claymore Dual, AM correctly calls Claymore Dual with a secondary coin (well, at least for ETH+SIA, no other coin has been auto switched yet). However if I use the profile group AM calls Claymore Dual with no secondary coin:
http://i.imgur.com/zGkSgL8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zGkSgL8.jpg
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
I think this is similar to what another user just reported. I will provide a correction for this scenario for the profit switcher, but please verify in next release.
Thank you. I will def wait for next release.
I can also add a Clone button for you in the Profit Profile section of the Options dialog. The idea is that you should be able to select for example the AMD profile, make a clone, and then make a few adjustments. Is that what you are looking for?
That's it exactly. Thank you.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Well, I tried the current developer build (3.2.2) with a managed profit miner. Did my profiles with benchmarks, configured claymore dual -dcri values and made sure that every online service was correctly configured. AM started mining successfully but to the wrong address. Immediately stopped the miner and checked the logs. It seems that AM isn't configuring launch parameters automatically. Went to confirm this by deleting the default configs of all miner software (ccminer, etc) and tried to mine again. This time AM failed to launch the mining software. Logs confirms this and also the profit switching screen doesn't show any launch parameters.
http://i.imgur.com/YBFklu2.jpg
Log file: https://pastebin.com/SeVJ10jG
Don't know how everyone is doing but managed profit mining isn't working for me.
Just a thought, but I installed AM in C:\AwesomeMiner\ instead of the default location. I'm using Windows 10 Pro with admin rights.
Request: it would be really useful if we could clone/export profit switching configs. It's a PIA to have to manually input benchmarks again when all I want to do is an exact copy of a profile with a different command line for 1 program (like a profile to mining only in GPU 1 in my PC while I'm gaming with GPU 0)
http://i.imgur.com/YBFklu2.jpg
Log file: https://pastebin.com/SeVJ10jG
Don't know how everyone is doing but managed profit mining isn't working for me.
Just a thought, but I installed AM in C:\AwesomeMiner\ instead of the default location. I'm using Windows 10 Pro with admin rights.
Request: it would be really useful if we could clone/export profit switching configs. It's a PIA to have to manually input benchmarks again when all I want to do is an exact copy of a profile with a different command line for 1 program (like a profile to mining only in GPU 1 in my PC while I'm gaming with GPU 0)
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Which version of Awesome Miner are you running. The latest public release (v3.2) or the latest development release? In the development release you can configure MiningPoolHub in the Options dialog, Online services, and select which algorithms to enable for the profit switcher. The latest version will also support custom mining software to be used together with the profit switcher (add a user defined Managed Software, and enable in in the Profit profile you use).
I'm using latest public release, v3.2. I'll have to check out the development version then.
If you use the feature "Add to worker name" for a Managed Miner (or Managed Profit Miner), it will append this to the worker name defined for the pool or profit switcher. In the Profit switching section of the Options dialog, how did you enter the worker name for Mining Pool Hub? And how is the "Add to worker name" configured for your Managed Profit Miner?
More about worker names:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/workername.aspx
More about worker names:
http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/workername.aspx
That was it, I had a worker name in the Profit Miner properties and in the Profit Switching properties. Suggestion: for MiningPoolHub the Profit Switching properties should say username instead of worker name, as per MiningPoolHub instructions. That's why I got confused and put username.worker in there.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Hello!
AM isn't using some of my configured algorithms. Right now Skein in MiningPoolHub is supposed to the most profitable for me but AM doesn't have it in the profit switching list and it is enabled everywhere (main algos and switching profiles). Other algos are missing too.
http://i.imgur.com/8IgrOnC.jpg
Also, AM is duplicating worker names in the command line when using MiningPoolHub
http://i.imgur.com/9QxfE0u.jpg
EDIT: Just noticed that port for Siacoin is wrong. It's pointing to 17022 and the correct port is 20550 https://siacoin.miningpoolhub.com/
Now I'm wondering, what was ClaymoreDual actually mining at that port and where did all my SC balance go? O.o
EDIT2: NVM, Siacoin just appeared in my Balance.
AM isn't using some of my configured algorithms. Right now Skein in MiningPoolHub is supposed to the most profitable for me but AM doesn't have it in the profit switching list and it is enabled everywhere (main algos and switching profiles). Other algos are missing too.
http://i.imgur.com/8IgrOnC.jpg
Also, AM is duplicating worker names in the command line when using MiningPoolHub
http://i.imgur.com/9QxfE0u.jpg
EDIT: Just noticed that port for Siacoin is wrong. It's pointing to 17022 and the correct port is 20550 https://siacoin.miningpoolhub.com/
Now I'm wondering, what was ClaymoreDual actually mining at that port and where did all my SC balance go? O.o
EDIT2: NVM, Siacoin just appeared in my Balance.
Re: [Awesome Miner]- Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 5000 miners
Another issue I found is with grouping profiles. I made a profile with the hash rates for 1 GTX1060. This profile have SHA-256 disabled (and other difficult algos too). Then I made a group, added this profile and chose 2 (for my 2 GTX1060). Everything works as it should, except in the Coins and Online Services tab. If I choose the GTX1060 profile in this tab, all the services update correctly and make calculations based on 1 GTX1060, but if I choose the group I made early (2 GTXT1060) then the SHA-256 goes to the top with a high profit. Remember that I disabled this algorithm and even put its hash rate at 0 MH/s. (screenshots)
This might be a display bug - I will take a look. Thanks for the reply. I found that if I put a value different from 0 (or simply leave it at default) the problem doesn't happen again. So I just left all the disabled algorithms at default value.
The development update looks promising, I'll give it a try.