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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 11/10/2019, 15:27:46 UTC


As I was saying, we will be publicly posting our news release after the representative from Grant Thornton reviews what we have sent him (today) and agrees that the information is accurate. It looks like their willingness to talk to us is part of a larger strategy that is mentioned in the following article:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/cryptopia-exchange-liquidator-asks-its-devs-how-to-reimburse-users


The fact that we have opened a communication channel with the liquidators is simply a tactic of good business sense. We are doing everything we can to protect our investors and if we can help shed some light on others in the crypto world, who may be in the dark regarding the Cryptopia situation, we are happy to do so. Over 800,000 people are affected by this hack and more than 21% of our XBY supply is involved. Helping to keep 800,000 people informed is an honor that we are happy to assist with and keeping everyone aligned, rather than scattered is much better for the crypto community at large.





That article explicitly states that Grant Thornton intends to speak with the developers from Cryptopia. It blatantly says ‘platform’sdevelopers’...

Perhaps you misread their announcement when you decided to make your fake claim.

Cameron, enough of your nonsense and don't ever ask again why we just delete your comments.


Within the article, there is a "leaked email" from Grant Thornton that states they have a desire to work with the development community. That would include such communities such as XBY, and/or others affected by this. Seems perfectly clear and backs up CCR's claim.

I agree with Xtroleum - seems pretty clear to me that "desirable to develop a collaborative relationship with the developer community." means the 470 members and not just the Cryptopia devs.

But I guess we'll know either way in a matter of time.

Here's the hyperlink within that article - I'll type it out as well, so that there's a clear understanding of what Grant is discussing via that email.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFQ5W2hUEAEyDs-?format=png&name=large

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Contact from Grant Thornton re: Cryptopia liquidation
Liquidation


Hi There,

As you are aware Grant Thornton have been engaged to conduct the liquidation of Cryptopia. As part of this process a number of developers of the coins/tokens previously supported by Cryptopia have been in contact with Grant Thornton to discuss various options for the future treatment of their respective coins/tokens.

Given the scale, complexity and unique nature of the Cryptopia situation it is desirable to develop a collaborative relationship with the developer community. We hold the view that engagement with the developer community in a meaningful, productive and efficient manner to address the issues raised with result in a far more positive outcome for all parties. To that end we would like to invite you to attend a webinar/skype session at 9am October 7th (NZ time) where we can discuss the current situation, outline our intent and plan and provide the opportunity for Q&A.

To summarize the key takeaways for this session are:

1.   Provide an introduction to Grant Thornton and understanding of the liquidation process. Including an overview of the process and desired outcomes.

2.   An opportunity for Grant Thornton to understand any issues or concerns the Developer currently have.

3.   Develop a platform and opportunity for future collaboration in working with Grant Thornton to ensure the best outcome for Cryptopia customers, developers and the broader crypto community.

If you would like to participate in this kick off session please let us know and I will send the appropriate invite. If you are unable to make this session then please feel free to reach out to me and we can discuss the plans directly.

For confirmation reason, if you note the name of the coin you’re representing in your reply, that work be great.

We believe engagement is a vital element to the overall success of the liquidation and positive message for the crypto community at large. I really hope you can join us and I look forward to our conversation.

Kind regards.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 11/10/2019, 09:47:58 UTC


As I was saying, we will be publicly posting our news release after the representative from Grant Thornton reviews what we have sent him (today) and agrees that the information is accurate. It looks like their willingness to talk to us is part of a larger strategy that is mentioned in the following article:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/cryptopia-exchange-liquidator-asks-its-devs-how-to-reimburse-users


The fact that we have opened a communication channel with the liquidators is simply a tactic of good business sense. We are doing everything we can to protect our investors and if we can help shed some light on others in the crypto world, who may be in the dark regarding the Cryptopia situation, we are happy to do so. Over 800,000 people are affected by this hack and more than 21% of our XBY supply is involved. Helping to keep 800,000 people informed is an honor that we are happy to assist with and keeping everyone aligned, rather than scattered is much better for the crypto community at large.





That article explicitly states that Grant Thornton intends to speak with the developers from Cryptopia. It blatantly says ‘platform’sdevelopers’...

Perhaps you misread their announcement when you decided to make your fake claim.

Cameron, enough of your nonsense and don't ever ask again why we just delete your comments.


Within the article, there is a "leaked email" from Grant Thornton that states they have a desire to work with the development community. That would include such communities such as XBY, and/or others affected by this. Seems perfectly clear and backs up CCR's claim.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 27/09/2019, 20:26:57 UTC
is there any chance of getting a proper 3rd party audit for the tech? (like with a tech firm, company, etc using NDA)

I would wait until PP. Mutaul NDAs are great for one off efforts. But something as deep as the core code with a larger organization, would require something stronger than a NDA.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 16/07/2019, 16:05:24 UTC
Hi community!
Whoever here is active on Twitter, please take a minute to vote for XTRABYTES in these two seperate votings  Cool

https://mobile.twitter.com/vinexnetwork/status/1149132369024077824

https://mobile.twitter.com/BezopNetwork/status/1151103062318231552

Thanks for your support  Smiley


Looking good!
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 14/07/2019, 17:37:07 UTC
Couple of points of interest from the video - #datachain and another get together that could possibly include community members. Great video and nice to actually see the team in action. Good stuff.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 12/07/2019, 13:22:13 UTC
I say let them continue to help the project via their mentions via the different forums and different media channels. Good or bad, they are actually helping by generating exposure.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 12/07/2019, 13:05:28 UTC
This is an answer I made especially for Cameron and his FUD Brigade that I would like to share with the community.
The actual REDDIT thread link can be found below

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/cbzps4/scam_alert_the_recent_photo_posted_by_xtrabytes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

Cameron - I am FanMan from the fake team of XTRABYTES. A fake designer among many other, more embarrassing things. Nothing less than a total loser, somebody who wants to rob all the world of their precious fiat using the "shittiest coin ever", perhaps the biggest "scam" of the 21st century (or of the 22nd - perhaps in your mind you can honor us with this Grandiose Title as well). And who knows? Since the World is not enough, me and my partners in crime may have plans to rob the aliens in Mars, the three-breasted exotic beauties of Venus, or the King of Seas, the Mighty Poseidon who resides on Planet Neptune, after we are done with the Earthlings...

I will not advise you to "get a life". I am not your Guardian. I am sure they have done it multiple times in vain, until the poor ones came in terms with your mental issues. But I will not advise you to "get a life" also because I see you already have a very fitting one. That, in front of your screen writing in ecstacy words of wisdom, protecting the innocent from the jaws of my thievery band, praying for the poor that lost their soul to the O! Great Scammy Mother of the Scammiest Scams on Planet Scam (....sorry, Earth) called XTRABYTES, all the while playing Good Samaritan.

Man- you should make an excellent Federal Bureau Agent trying to conceive the tiniest bit of detail out of a photo. A wooden table! DAMN! SCAM ALERT! The guy is signing with his left hand! ALERT AGAIN!! Not a wireless mouse? "WTF? WE ARE IN THE 21ST CENTURY! WAKE UP PEOPLE! WHAT AM I TELLING YOU? IT'S A SCAM"! Red chair? RED FLAG!!!

Ok let's get serious. Listen up kiddo;
Joking aside, me, along with at least some sane people in this madroom, would agree that the Founders and the Management involved should have any right to take any means necessary to protect their Intellectual Property and everything that derives from it, be it tech, patents, or the fortune they managed to get away with from that three-breasted Queen on Venus, without having to explain it to you or justify it. Is the photo cropped? Give me a break boy! It may be cropped, folded, turned into an origami or gotten exposed to a million PS filters and a billion wizard spells before given to the Public, if that's the way for one to keep his secrets (like in Intellectual Property), well...a secret. You still following, right?  In-te-lle-ctu- ... ah! Forget it. We will just be referring to it as a "secret" for now on, so even your moronic mind can follow.
Let's continue; You are stating that 4 people meeting for 2 days and only 1 photo being taken is kinda strange. You tricky, tricky boy! Wouldn't you be happier to see a bunch of all four, among beers, females, whips and whatnot! Wake up Cam. They wanted to show you a photo. "A" photo. One. You don't accept it, fine, but that's a fact. You wouldn't accept it if they showed you a million photos either, and we would all be having you whining by now, stating  "What kind of jerks are those? If they were serious, they would only take a photo and get to work w/out a delay". See, you can twist a thing, you can twist a second. But then, you are the one who gets twisted at the end.
You also said with a phenomenal certainty and a pompous haughtiness like His Majesty Pongo"the Fart" Rogongo of the ancient Kingdom of Pimple, that this is surely NOT a team member (Danny) in the photo. Of course, you may have the strongest arguments in the world to prove so, but for some reason you opted for just throwing out the accusation rather than to expose us and our dirty scam once and for all. Let me tell you that if you are an ace in the art of "finding the truth between a fake and a real image" (like a ten y.o. boy would easily google and then play smart to his friends), I am an ace on some other fields, totally alien to you. My day job (oh yes, I have one too, when I am not scamming your pathetic kind) has allowed me the privilege to learn how to distinguish a person's features and match him with an actual image of his/hers, when looking him from behind, bird's eye view, rear/flank or a view straight below his @rse. And with a certainty that only His Majesty "the Fart" can have, I am telling you : THIS WAS DANNY. Of course, this is just my word versus yours, but let me give you and your moronic kind of fudders some clues. CLU- .... ah! forget it! Let me give you proof. P-R-O-O-F! Oh ok I see you are following. Oh please dont put your nose in your mouth after sticking it up your nose. Just listen to the proof like a good boy you are.
1. Have a look at "the person who is not Danny"'s part of the ear lobe and the characteristic curve it makes. You will find the exact same curve on his image photo on the web site. Did I hear "COINCIDENCE! EVERY FAWIKING EAR DOES SO, MATE" -Ok, lets keep on.
2. The "person who is not Danny" has his head leaning forward in a very characteristic manner/pose on that devilish thing of a fake photo, when he signs. Exactly the same pose he naturally hits on his picture in the website. Of course, this may need some brain to see and realize, but I think even  you are  capable of.
3. The "person who is not Danny" has his shoulders hanging forward on that abominable photo of Hell again in a characteristic manner, much like the same as in the one of the website. Of course for one to understand, some prior basic knowledge of somatometrics and other  anthropometry  factors must be known. While I am fully aware that the only so-ma-to-me-tric (yeah I know, difficult lingo here boy - we will call it "of the body") knowledge you have right now, is the premature ej@culation that happened to you when your ecstatic words of wisdom and yours prayers to Gorgon helped the innocent to clearly see the dark schemes me and my team of fiends were preparing for you.
4. Would you find it of any particular importance to debate about the info on the paper, the  "person who is not Danny" is signing? Let me tell you, the Founders purposely made sure that the text on the NDA was not visible when they posted it... hello... duh!  
5. Let's not enter the debate about the "person who is not Danny"'s (oh f@ck it, even you retard must have understood IT IS DANNY by now, so let's give the guy a brake and call him by his proper name, shall we?) T-shirt, because we will be entering the same convo as in the part I was telling you about one protecting his Intellectual Property. They just have every right to apply filters onto something, their own logo included, to protect it. (If this not being the case, it's just the devilish T-shirt took a form on its own accord, so that when the photo was taken it would purposefully rise a million debates -and why not? a bloodbath). Bad, bad T-shirt and bad, bad Danny that he hadn't it ironed a trillion times before wearing it and posing for the photo!

So. I believe I have persuaded even the dumbest of the people that have fallen to your net of Fear, Anxiety and Drama here. Oh yes. You are not causing Doubt fella. You are causing Drama like a clown loser in a slum circus.
Now, to your agenda. What do you possibly try to succeed by fudding a legit project? It may be late, it may have even lost the train. But that doesn't mean it is a scam, neither does it entitle you to condemn it like a self-appointed punisher of the Inquisition era and call for everyone to burn it on the stake. This is for the markets to see and judge. And our low price until now is 100% real, depicting the slow progress we have shown the last two years. Although, tragically for you, this will change soon.
Here I said it Cam-boy. "SOON". The word you so much like to fight against
SOON SOON SOON. Feeling better, buddy?

So, your motives must be darker indeed, to spend a precious lot of your day to fight "a scam project that will self-extinct" no matter what. If you believe we worth nothing, why the relentless attacks? Why not letting us rot and disappear? Perhaps you are manipulating the masses to market buy cheap. Perhaps you are controlled by a serious mental issue and hate someone from the team so strongly, up to the point of finally loving him so much, that you can't live a single day w/out speaking to (even in the form of fudding).

These were my arguments, love.

Give me your best $hit. Ooops. Shot
You are experienced in this, I give you that.
I am here for you, and your better half, your honey-boy Palatinum

I kept my team's advice for the end.  
For the safety of the society and that of the state, get some professional psychological help. We at XTRABYTES™ are very worried about your mental state of mind


You've gone and done it now! You've pissed off the fanman.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 07/07/2019, 18:03:43 UTC
Are you saying we're a bit closer AND we now have trusted members of the project with visibility to exactly what PoSign is?

Yes





Well damn... Look at that. Looks like the price is excited as well.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 07/07/2019, 14:41:00 UTC
Are you saying we're a bit closer AND we now have trusted members of the project with visibility to exactly what PoSign is?
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 01/07/2019, 23:22:47 UTC
I have alts that have been around since 2015, but I don't mind admitting it so age don't matter and just because he's been around since 2017 doesn't mean that he isn't an alt (why don't you check the IP logs if you don't believe me?). But my point was that people are tired of the word "soon". You should give your community something tangible and technically nothing has been accomplished in two years. The part that saddens me the most is even Danny has taken a hit to his confidence and he was always hype happy in discord

A&A were technically "fired" because they got tired of you CCR. You basically told them to leave the project which is the same as firing them just because they wanted to make this project sustainable. There was also far more transparency compared to having you in-charge. I hope you do the right thing for your community instead of waging a holy war against everything you perceive to be fud.

No need to be sad, i'm still actively working for the project on a daily base, except for the last 3 weeks. I was to busy spotting real whales on holiday, it almost caught me instead of the other way around  Cool

https://i.ibb.co/28vVyHs/photo-2019-07-01-21-18-26.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/LvFysVh/photo-2019-07-01-21-18-26-2.jpg

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The part that saddens me the most is even Danny has taken a hit to his confidence and he was always hype happy in discord

Curious about that last one. How did we conclude to that?

Its called FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) basically because Danny has not been around on XBY-Talk for 3 weeks. They assumed and gambled on the post... The reality is that Danny was in touch with me practically every day of his vacation and has come back fully recharged (which is what holidays are all about).




Almost nefarious in a way, but definitely dangerous to arrive at an assumption only to pass it off as if it is fact - especially when there's an audience. Makes you wonder if the forums and channels/rooms should just be placed in read-only. But perhaps that's going a bit to far and this is a community coin/project.

All I can say is, "WOW"...
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 01/07/2019, 22:37:51 UTC
I have alts that have been around since 2015, but I don't mind admitting it so age don't matter and just because he's been around since 2017 doesn't mean that he isn't an alt (why don't you check the IP logs if you don't believe me?). But my point was that people are tired of the word "soon". You should give your community something tangible and technically nothing has been accomplished in two years. The part that saddens me the most is even Danny has taken a hit to his confidence and he was always hype happy in discord

A&A were technically "fired" because they got tired of you CCR. You basically told them to leave the project which is the same as firing them just because they wanted to make this project sustainable. There was also far more transparency compared to having you in-charge. I hope you do the right thing for your community instead of waging a holy war against everything you perceive to be fud.

No need to be sad, i'm still actively working for the project on a daily base, except for the last 3 weeks. I was to busy spotting real whales on holiday, it almost caught me instead of the other way around  Cool

https://i.ibb.co/28vVyHs/photo-2019-07-01-21-18-26.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/LvFysVh/photo-2019-07-01-21-18-26-2.jpg

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The part that saddens me the most is even Danny has taken a hit to his confidence and he was always hype happy in discord

Curious about that last one. How did we conclude to that?
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 30/06/2019, 16:08:13 UTC
The Bitmox source code was open source. And haven't you said a million fucking times its a "bitcoin fork with mining removed"??

You contradict yourself all the time

Agreed. The level of contradiction coupled with the inability to line up sequence of events is baffling.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 30/06/2019, 15:27:30 UTC
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Its only your delusional mind or that of the other trolls that posts this stupidity. So let me ask you this: what are you going to do when we start to release our tech and the truth rises to the surface??

Coward. Come to a discussion outside of your moderation tools. There is no tech, there is no developer any longer, and there is no release coming. Prove that Borzalom is still with this project. You can not even do that.

Borz announced that he's still with the project developing as usual. The team can confirm this as well.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 29/06/2019, 14:29:58 UTC
Yeah Venture Capital is really in the spirit of what crypto was meant to be isn't it. Why not just hand it all over to banks and hedge funds.

Agreed. My company has had many investment offers. But we decline, because we know what that means in the end. Sure, we'll be able to get to where we need faster, but it won't be the original destination.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 29/06/2019, 00:59:53 UTC
Well fuck off then you cunt

Some sad cunts who have nothing better to do with their lives

Don't let them get to you... Wink You have plenty of ammo if you want... hook up with me on Discord and we can have a chat about these guys.

Dave

http://files.xtrabytes.global/bitcointalk/RealByte%203.0%20re-edit.png



This is definitely a result of some sort of personal grudge. I doubt that you (those who consistently post items that get deleted) all care about the community and their investment.

They don't care about anyone - its all a personal vendetta because we didn't accept their desire to bring in Venture Capitalists (friends of the rude one who has multiple alts) and instead brought XFUEL to life. Nothing more complicated than that, other than their bullshit of course. Anyone can tell a story, but in the end the truth always wins and our truth will come exactly when its ready.





yes thank god those venture capitalists and investment money didn't happen and your worthless XFUEL was created instead. Great great great idea. how can you even say this stuff in public and not see how dumb it is??

VC translates into the company answering to a entity they may not have the best interests of the company but more so for the bottom line- which can be misleading in regards to running a successful project/effort.


YES, because dave and borz have the best interests of xby at heart. gimme a break. thank god we were saved from a VC and got XFUEL, which competes with XBY, no exchanges, CEO/COO who quit, no patents and yes another token...XIP which no one has really explained yet.

How fucking blind are you people?

Fuck, I wont argue with you on that topic, I may be. Help me understand the differences between xby and xfuel - and of late, XIP.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 29/06/2019, 00:52:43 UTC
Well fuck off then you cunt

Some sad cunts who have nothing better to do with their lives

Don't let them get to you... Wink You have plenty of ammo if you want... hook up with me on Discord and we can have a chat about these guys.

Dave

http://files.xtrabytes.global/bitcointalk/RealByte%203.0%20re-edit.png



This is definitely a result of some sort of personal grudge. I doubt that you (those who consistently post items that get deleted) all care about the community and their investment.

They don't care about anyone - its all a personal vendetta because we didn't accept their desire to bring in Venture Capitalists (friends of the rude one who has multiple alts) and instead brought XFUEL to life. Nothing more complicated than that, other than their bullshit of course. Anyone can tell a story, but in the end the truth always wins and our truth will come exactly when its ready.





yes thank god those venture capitalists and investment money didn't happen and your worthless XFUEL was created instead. Great great great idea. how can you even say this stuff in public and not see how dumb it is??

VC translates into the company answering to a entity they may not have the best interests of the company but more so for the bottom line- which can be misleading in regards to running a successful project/effort.

If this is to be a true community coin, after the foundation is laid, than we need to ensure that those outside influences do not impact the vision set out by the team/founders.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
by
xtroleum
on 28/06/2019, 23:55:36 UTC
Well fuck off then you cunt

Some sad cunts who have nothing better to do with their lives

Don't let them get to you... Wink You have plenty of ammo if you want... hook up with me on Discord and we can have a chat about these guys.

Dave

http://files.xtrabytes.global/bitcointalk/RealByte%203.0%20re-edit.png



This is definitely a result of some sort of personal grudge. I doubt that you (those who consistently post items that get deleted) all care about the community and their investment.

They don't care about anyone - its all a personal vendetta because we didn't accept their desire to bring in VC's (friends of the rude one who has multiple alts) and instead brought XFUEL to life. Nothing more complicated than that, other than their bullshit of course. Anyone can tell a story, but in the end the truth always wins and our truth will come exactly when its ready.




Well, you aint doing it right if you don't have haters at your every corner.

I'll say this, it almost falls into the restraining order category of things. You know the deal. You break up with your thought to be love and the person keeps stopping by for no apparent reason - leaving messages at your door step/watching you through your window. 
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 28/06/2019, 23:38:56 UTC
Well fuck off then you cunt

Some sad cunts who have nothing better to do with their lives

Don't let them get to you... Wink You have plenty of ammo if you want... hook up with me on Discord and we can have a chat about these guys.

Dave

http://files.xtrabytes.global/bitcointalk/RealByte%203.0%20re-edit.png



This is definitely a result of some sort of personal grudge. I doubt that you (those who consistently post items that get deleted) all care about the community and their investment.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 28/06/2019, 19:20:16 UTC
My post was deleted...

Yes, we delete every spam post you make... figure it out.

So far, our count for you is in the 700 to 800 range, but who's counting??


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I say let's make a game out of it. If we hit 1000k deletes for Sabih we do something special for the community.
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Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - A NEW ERA BEGINS
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xtroleum
on 28/06/2019, 13:32:08 UTC
I just discovered another project that started their patent journey in 2017 - only to have it just pending this month. Now this is just one example, but one that shows that anything worth it weight takes time.

Line that timeline with XBY and maybe we're not that far off in terms of time spent.