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zen862
on 22/07/2011, 23:03:38 UTC
Hello people, I'll credit you with 0.5 pounds sterling in Bitcoins once you;

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Thank you and have a wonderful day!  Cheesy


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Re: Selling Renault Clio Campus Sport 1.2 2005 (UK f2f only!)
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zen862
on 05/07/2011, 12:00:33 UTC
bump Smiley
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Re: Selling Renault Clio Campus Sport 1.2 2005 (UK f2f only!)
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zen862
on 22/06/2011, 18:49:31 UTC
Damn  Grin

Oh well I still feel like a bit of a pioneer haha, I just need some interest  Undecided
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Re: I am going to spend my coins.
by
zen862
on 22/06/2011, 17:36:08 UTC
Silkroad

/thread  Cheesy
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Re: Protecting bitcoin from government
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zen862
on 22/06/2011, 12:21:26 UTC
Another possible scenario is government agencies which go after individuals who continue to use the service after it being deemed illegal or whatever; I proffer secure servers in far-flung reaches of the globe, actually as many places as possible, acting as CoinReserves whereby people store their bitcoins in confidence for the long-term.

It's not banking, it's more bitcoin storage. As my servers are in Africa naturally I've been getting a lot of stick for the idea in my thread, but consider the link in my signature.

  Smiley
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Re: Selling Renault Clio Campus Sport 1.2 2005 (UK f2f only!)
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zen862
on 22/06/2011, 12:11:47 UTC
*buump*  Grin
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Re: An Agorist Company
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zen862
on 22/06/2011, 11:42:34 UTC
So, in conclusion, claiming any part of a man is considered violence if the claim can be backed by force. Claiming a part through reason is absolutely voluntary and not violent.

Feel free to address any holes.

Thank you for being patient. I appreciate your time discussing this with me. I apologize for my anger and disrespect.

So you're saying if a simple man creates an object from gold, and then a witty man comes along and convinces him that he should give it up, that is justified?

People are generally not rational, look at the state of the world today and the sheeple that inhabit it. Global governance has convinced most that the systems we currently have in place are the best and they go along with it voluntarily but it does not make it Right.

Sorry for picking, I'm just interested.  Smiley
First of all, if you apologize for having a discussion with me again, I will not be pleased. ; )

Most organisms are hardly sentient. What is not moral is to claim the ignorant are entitled to the service of the competent. That is simply not a compromise.

We either let the will of the competent serve the ignorant (which they naturally will out of human empathy) in addition to letting the ignorant stumble upon knowledge as man has always done.


I see what you're saying, but how can you justify your argument on just letting things happen naturally? We've had natural societies for thousands of years, by that I mean questions of morals and so on haven't applied to the common man, and whilst there has been a great deal of empathy shown by the competent, the reverse is also true.

If your moral presuppositions are good and virtuous, as I suspect they are, it works and I'm happy to help develop this online presence you wish to get going.  Cheesy
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Re: Bitcoins, the noosphere, you
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zen862
on 21/06/2011, 23:25:58 UTC
Added a tl;dr thanks  Smiley

I also replied to your thread whilst you replied to mine, lol.

With regards the climate you're right, if people want it, then we shall have it. Trouble is, people don't care much.
I'm arguing for a monopoly of Self, and if people's Selves were aware of the environment we would have it.
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Re: An Agorist Company
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zen862
on 21/06/2011, 23:14:32 UTC
So, in conclusion, claiming any part of a man is considered violence if the claim can be backed by force. Claiming a part through reason is absolutely voluntary and not violent.

Feel free to address any holes.

Thank you for being patient. I appreciate your time discussing this with me. I apologize for my anger and disrespect.

So you're saying if a simple man creates an object from gold, and then a witty man comes along and convinces him that he should give it up, that is justified?

People are generally not rational, look at the state of the world today and the sheeple that inhabit it. Global governance has convinced most that the systems we currently have in place are the best and they go along with it voluntarily but it does not make it Right.

Sorry for picking, I'm just interested.  Smiley
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Bitcoins, the noosphere, you
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zen862
on 21/06/2011, 23:05:18 UTC
I should be revising for a philosophy exam I've got based around On Liberty (Mill) tomorrow. It counts towards my future. But you know what? I don't really care. I'm sure I'll get the grades to go to university, I've revised enough for that, but nothing more. I'm only young but I feel sick, sick of the society we live in. Sound familiar? It's a common spiel you hear these days and I ascribe it to the death throes of global market capitalism. Many of you see the same symptoms, which is why you're here. People are being exploited day in day out, but crucially, it is by a system of which the strings of control are hopelessly entwined. We live in a post-modern condition, relativism abounds and no one group can claim to hold the infallible truth.

With that in mind, how can any of you ascribe yourselves to (broadly) a libertarian/anarchistic persuasion? Or for that matter a platform at all. We must free the money to free the people, yet we must also free the ideas to free the people.

People must realise that in coming here, the development of bitcoins and the rise of anti-globalisation movements are all examples of the human state reacting to other elements of the human state, being pragmatic and doing what is best under the circumstances. In each example people may claim otherwise, but we ultimately live in a position where we consider ourselves to have free will, yet everywhere we are in chains (Rousseau). These chains have typically been the burden of society, but I want to extend this definition to the notion each and every one of our actions are dependent or reliant on another. When I mean another, I mean anything in our tunnel-reality (from the feelings of another human, to an animal to the state of your PC's HDD). Thus, we have not free will, rather the image of it. For instance, I'm only writing this because clicking on 'Politics and Society' I don't see a forum that is an exchange of collective progressive positive ideas, rather debates amongst different ideological camps. I had no idea I was going to write this post earlier, after all and what's more I'm sorry, but isn't the petty squabbling of ideology one of the core reasons why our politicians have FAILED to stymie the rise of corrupt capitalism?

Jump now to twenty years down the line and governments have succeeded to the power of bitcoins, because they cannot be constrained. Where do we go from there? There are supranational issues such as that of the climate that have to be addressed, and I fear belief in small government is a rocky road to well, the earth being a scorched rock. This is an example of ideology being used to harm not only Us but well, Everything we know. Supranational issues are a particular concern, and I'm very interested in what you have to say about them.

That was a digression, my main point I want to raise is that of the Hive Mind, the collective unconscious, the noosphere, whatever you want to call it. The powers that be are already aware of it's very real existence (http://noosphere.princeton.edu/). Bitcoins are one element of it, you are another element and so on. It is essentially the human 'take' of the only true fact we know, the inter-connectedness of Everything.

If it exists, you ask, what are the implications?

There are no implications, aside from what you yourself know. If people come to realise the only 'truth' in the true sense of the word can come from themselves, through development of themselves they are adding to the noosphere. The only question is, are you going to add to it for the good of humanity or are you going to make a quick buck off of Bitcoins and carry on propping up an essentially contradictory oppressive system?

tl;dr

Society is constantly being oppressed. Everything we do affects each other (The Noosphere) and we should be careful acting in our own self-interest because it could somehow deny other people happiness. Are you going to use your Bitcoins how you like or are you going to use it for 'my' (your) idea of a common good?

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Re: Selling Renault Clio Campus Sport 1.2 2005 (UK f2f only!)
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zen862
on 09/06/2011, 16:17:41 UTC
Haha thanks man, all my friends think I'm crazy, but Bitcoins are the future!  Grin

BiddingPond is a little active, but I'm just selling it through here on the 'official' site so there's a bit more support if something goes wrong. It'll also help me gain trust amongst the community for other ideas and projects I have in mind.

Now if only someone wants to buy a car for BTC  Cheesy
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Re: Selling Renault Clio Campus Sport 1.2 2005 (UK f2f only!)
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zen862
on 09/06/2011, 12:56:50 UTC
bump  Smiley
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Selling Renault Clio Campus Sport 1.2 2005 (UK f2f only!)
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zen862
on 08/06/2011, 18:00:29 UTC
Renault Clio Campus Sport 2005 '55' Reg

3 Door Hatchback
Petrol 1149cc
Black
Alloy Wheels
Custom Exhaust
Custom interior with in car entertainment system (LCD/DVD Player unit, see interior photo)
Pioneer Subwoofer/Soundsystem in boot
Custom Xeon Headlights
Sports Wingmirrors
Approx 68,000 miles
Have registration certificate
Taxed
M.O.T. until 20/01/2012

I will let the pictures do the car justice;
Front: http://i51.tinypic.com/dzflhg.jpg
Side-view: http://i53.tinypic.com/2je1pn7.jpg
Back: http://i52.tinypic.com/2dtzqkz.jpg
Sound-system: http://i51.tinypic.com/ixfj14.jpg
Interior: http://i52.tinypic.com/2ufvxhc.jpg

Registration covered for sake of anonymity.

Based in South East.

Private message me for further details, I'm happy to chat over the phone too.  Smiley



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Re: Holistic-Solipsism
by
zen862
on 07/06/2011, 01:29:10 UTC
How does my post justify slavery lol?

And that's before going down the route to asking the question what is actually meant by the term 'free'.  Roll Eyes
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Re: Holistic-Solipsism
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zen862
on 07/06/2011, 01:06:45 UTC
This link: http://twm.co.nz/hologram.html provides some scientific/mathematical evidence for the metaphysical concepts I discuss.

You can have your opinion, but to say you don't like me is just rude.
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A possible solution to future government crackdowns
by
zen862
on 07/06/2011, 01:00:57 UTC

There has been great speculation regarding the possibility of governments attempting to, in the future, restrict the use of Bitcoins.
This is an entirely tenable position and I think such a scenario will happen. Control of the money supply is a central facet of government power and for the powers that be to lose this ability is simply unacceptable and regulations and restrictions will start to emerge.

This is something we cannot, will not and won't accept for it breaks the spirit of the freedom associated with Bitcoins in the first place! Now, the average Joe won't have such concerns when Bitcoins are more widely used, thus the groundwork must be laid by us: the pioneers of the movement.

I can think of two options to those worried about being arrested/watched for possession of Bitcoins:

i) For someone to develop a Bitcoin client one could carry around on a USB stick and possibly duplicate.
The problem I have with this is that these things aren't designed for the long-term storage of data.
When duplicating/transferring over your entire fortune, wouldn't it be gutting to lose it all?

THUS, I propose the following:

ii) The emergence of multiple currency reserves dotted in far flung countries. I happen to have ties with one such country, and I have in place
dedicated servers with back-up facilities ready and waiting to go. See this thread: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=8625.0

I haven't had much enthusiasm for the idea thus far but then again I can understand why people are concerned about scammers and so on.

Perhaps this thread: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12831.0 will convince you I'm not a Nigerian internet scammer. Either way it's eloquent so feel free to send me gifts  Kiss


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Holistic-Solipsism
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zen862
on 07/06/2011, 00:57:38 UTC
It is a long read, originally intended for another forum, and there isn't a philosophy section so this is the best place for it. If it helps some folks then so be it Smiley

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'Philosophy' as a mass noun is concerned with the understanding, taken from the Oxford Dictionary, as 'the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline'. There have been many attempts to characterise, classify, file and define what such terms mean by a selection of eminent minds. The perplexity is ever apparent by the fact that 'what does something mean' is itself loaded with countless pre-suppositions. The basis of those are what morals, or if one prefers, values an individual holds; they are in themselves characterised by the environment and genetics (the nature/nurture debate). We have in effect in contemporary times been able to amass a plethora of information from cultures throughout the world, from Christianity and Western Enlightenment Rationalist science to Ancient Hindu, Sanskrit and Buddhist teachings. This is not to mention colloquial aboriginal religion, beliefs and prophecies from Mayans in South America to Pagans in pre-Christendom Europe. Our technological capabilities today have given us the tools to not only discover things of our past, but through the telescope and beyond too.

On a little sidetrack, I wish to direct your attentions to the writings of a little known Roman philosopher Boethius who strikes a particular chord during the present and is relevant reading for an antique take on events we face today. Roman late-antiquity was after all marked with a pallor of 'knowing it all' and ideas such as relativism abounded as cultures clashed. They were like us, in a post-modern condition: refer to 'Consolation of Philosophy' a short text which offers great insight on contemporary issues. The One truth is that we will never know it all, for as J.S. Mill points out we are all infallible. Whatever position you hold on truth that is an undeniable fact; alas do not be disheartened, stop here and ponder the pointlessness of it all. For there is hope: what many would call 'enlightenment'.

Consider for a moment, physicists zooming in on particles. If we had the technology, it is feasible that we could zoom and zoom and zoom through structures previously unbeknownst. Were those structures present before the mind which created the know-how to get to this level of understanding? Furthermore, this example shares undeniable parallels with fractal mathematics and what one would do if one continued a mathematical formula on and on and on. Even consider a human being like yourself thinking introspectively further and further and further: one starts to realise that there are no boundaries. Such ever increasing complexity is a problem Darwinists fail to solve. What was wrong, after all, with an Earth of singular celled organisms all living in harmony, splitting when need be? Thus, with this taken into account the Darwinist model is broken. This is not to say that it does not contain a portion of the truth, for animals undeniably adapt to changing circumstance. But the issue of increasing complexity is a trait of the universe that has led even ardent atheist philosophers such as the late A.J. Ayer to declare the universe as a system working in harmony. In modern times Lovelock's Gaia theory has further perplexed the problem with the idea of homeostatis: is the Earth really self-regulating? Ultimately such questions still need to be researched, but evidence is starting to demonstrate the holistic nature of the universe. Is that the nature of reality: limitlessness?

Those who deny a holistic understanding of the world tend to believe in absolute free will and will as a result, inevitably experience a tunnel reality characterised by free will. If such an attitude is taken to its logical extremity however, such an endeavour would end in tears! When one believes one's actions are entirely sovereign, they often fail to take into account external stimuli that would otherwise help them. Poor youths in deprived cities to irresponsible drug addicts both develop a hostile individualistic stance towards the world; both are perfect examples of people fighting against the system: ultimately believing in the power of themselves and themselves alone. That is why older generations see many young people as obnoxious and rude (as indvidualism continues to run its course); that is why families are disintegrated by people who take drugs with no regard for their consequences (again, rampant indvidualism). Think about your own actions, are they really free? You probably think you're free, but any time you take into account the feelings or actions of others, you are simply demonstrative of a holistic system at work.
With regards the current situation of the world in 2011, on the macro level global finance capitalism has ravaged the third world through the exploitation of cheap labour. People in the first world do nothing about this because they do not see it: to lambast someone who cannot see a danger is however an equally vacuous action. The first world is more subtly controlled precisely because the status quo is a 'dog-eat-dog' business culture and an individualistic, humanistic consumer culture. These values, morals, whatever one wishes to call them filter through society: generation gaps are so apparent because each generation grows up in their formative years in tunnel realities with different logos, messages, fashions and so on. These culture gaps therefore grow ever graver as increasing complexity continues. A quote by Rousseau probably holds even more wisdom for today: 'everywhere man is free, yet he is bound in chains'. Our mentality is narrow minded and will ultimately lead to the destruction of our species; through history we have seen the collapse of empires but today we live in a global empire controlled by no single organisation. Conspiracy theories, New World Order fanatics and 9/11 'truthers' may be right in their various claims but the bigger picture must be placed in proper perspective. At this point one would think I am against capitalism; and would propose socialist solutions. However both are underpinned by ideological constraints that ultimately limit human consciousness. Free-market capitalism in its truest sense, without the interference of governments is the only system possible in a post-modern world; Bitcoins are the way forward in this regard.

You've already guessed that my ideas take into the account the interconnectedness of everything. I however propose one very different and significant axiom which most 'straight' philosophers freely discard, probably without even considering. Take a deep breath guys, this is deep. If we are all part of an interconnected system, but at the same time what is 'real' for one individual is not for another does it not suggest that we all exist in different realities? Reality is itself is holistic: and because of this the system is able to adapt so that we can all live in different realities but share the same physical realm. The physical realm is itself changing, but most are not attuned to these occurrences on a day-to-day basis because of our sobriety, or base-level. Added to this dullness most people experience are the false flags raised by contemporary Western society; what was originally a noble idea has created a globe of sheeple. That is why drug-users, mad-men, priests and those who meditate all alter their general frequency and experience different levels of consciousness and seem out of touch with the 'real world'. The grandest irony of all of course, is it is these individuals who are the the most perceptive of our One True Being. Furthermore, I propose that we all reside in the same physical realm for when altered via synchronicities (as discovered by Jung) we all experience them, albeit in different ways. Further more, if there can be alterations to the physical realm, a model can be created and this is what gives credence to McKenna's Timewave Zero theory. In conclusion, I urge those reading this who are sitting on the fence to accept that your thoughts alter reality: if you do not accept it with a completely open mind then you will not attune to a higher consciousness. There is a reason why the phrase 'positivity breeds positivity' was coined by some wise soul; and ultimately what is the harm in trying to be positive for a week and see if energy and reality just gets better for you. For those who remained unconvinced; who picture my lonesome self in a cabin in the woods chain-smoking pot, then I am afraid the ravages of consumer propaganda (advertising) and societal morals (socialisation) still bond you too tightly. If you got this far, thank you for reading, and have a wonderful reality! :')

We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience!

Whether you choose to accept these ideas or not, they're at least food for thought and I hope your journey in life is successful <3


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Re: Introducing CoinReserve
by
zen862
on 18/05/2011, 20:02:55 UTC
The reserve computer will itself be protected by all of the various measures afforded to a machine that requires longevity, to the extent it's more like a server.

E.g. RAID array to protect from single-drive failure, the drives themselves will be encrypted, the computer stored in a location with a back-up generator, in a specialised room tailored to withstand fire, floods etc.

The service is there for those who wish to store away their BitCoins with peace of mind, the service is not expensive if you consider annual banking fees in the system. Indeed, it is specifically biased towards larger deposits to discourage people from treating it like a bank.

The whole point of the idea hinges on the idea that governments will start cracking down on BitCoins, and the community needs far-flung locations at which to bury wealth.

The other point of the service is to act as a centrifuge for larger stakeholders to pool their funds into co-operative projects, I simply provide the middle-man service.

I respect that a lot of the community, by the very nature of BitCoins, are suspicious but I am as sick of society as you all are and simply wish to offer my help in the co-ordination and organisation of exciting projects which are only feasible on a macro-level with co-operation and commitment from all parties.
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Re: Introducing CoinReserve
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zen862
on 17/05/2011, 22:25:46 UTC
The purpose of the service is to:

i) Provide a safe place for individuals to store their BitCoins without fear of theft, or loss through fire, physical damage etc (as would happen if your computer broke)
ii) Provide investment opportunities for larger stakeholders with long term growth in mind

CoinReserve is similar to a Bank in the sense you deposit BitCoins, but it is aimed more at people wishing to store away their BitCoins for the long-haul, and those looking to spread their portfolio.

The charge incidentally is 1% on every deposit you make, my motivation isn't greed so I don't see why I need to charge exceptional amounts.


 
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Re: Introducing CoinReserve
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zen862
on 17/05/2011, 13:18:45 UTC
Well obviously the first step I have to over-come is to prove I'm not a scammer who would walk away with all of your money.

On the other hand, I could be a scammer who simply writes well.

That said, I'm not going to make shill accounts or what have you to try and big myself up, so if you're not interested and can't offer serious feedback then GTFO.