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Re: Betfury cancelled $300,000 worth of bets
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ziportan
on 09/07/2025, 17:21:57 UTC
its crazy to be asked to prove that you are not wrong in every single aspect, rather than asking the bookie wtf is the accusation in the first place. they shouldnt be able to say `theres something wrong so we ll not pay` anymore
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Re: Vavada.com | ⭐ crypto casino with quick withdrawals ⭐ | personal bonuses 🎁💰
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ziportan
on 07/07/2025, 14:08:13 UTC
Hi. Do you require kyc for making withdrawals and how long usually the crypto withdrawals take?
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Re: Betfury cancelled $300,000 worth of bets
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ziportan
on 07/07/2025, 06:19:15 UTC
Lol i dont know why would anyone take this "bitcoingirl" person seriously. Reading just a few of his posts is enough to comprehend that hes not right in his mind. Keeps showing a serious effort to accuse bettors for no reason for years. Just ignore the poor guy
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Re: XYES STEAL $1811.75
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ziportan
on 02/07/2025, 16:42:02 UTC
so they even confiscated the deposits along with the winnings? looks like they upped their game now lol

I already withdrawn my initial deposits, so i just played with my winnings.
In any case, it's my money.

sure. i wish you should ve  read here though before you register with them. they are very very problematic. they accused me and others of this too. looking at your bets its another bs accusation
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ITS TIME TO STAY AWAY FROM BETBY CASINOS
by
ziportan
on 02/07/2025, 16:39:42 UTC
Hi all

I ve been betting on sports since long long years and never seen so much complaints about the bookies as i ve been seeing recently in the last few years. Since these crypto casinos boomed , its super easy to buy a script and open a new one every other day and theres almost no jurisdiction on any of these  whether they have licenses or not. But when you look at it closer, theres this one odds provider , BETBY, which almost every single casino using their software making ridiculous problems with the users. Just check the scam accusations, like 95% of the recent posts are all about them. I think its really at the critical level and we all just need to seriously consider ignoring this company despite the fact that they are pretty dominant in the industry
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Re: XYES STEAL $1811.75
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ziportan
on 02/07/2025, 16:32:27 UTC
so they even confiscated the deposits along with the winnings? looks like they upped their game now lol
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 30/06/2025, 09:36:27 UTC
[Mods, sorry for the consecutive post, if you want to merge, please do not merge until OP replied to this post]

OP, explained, straightened out, and sorted. They will refund to your account amounted 205 USD, and you can withdraw right after. Following the withdrawal, they'll either put a limitation to your account or permanently ban.



Edit: OP, their end said that the fund has been restored and ready for you to withdraw. Please confirm?

yes i just made the withdrawal. cheers
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 30/06/2025, 08:23:05 UTC

Edit: OP, I heard back from them.

Uhh... I will not do the double-blind stuff and instead will go straight to the point and ask for the info I want to know. Please note that this is not me being nosy [that info, suppose you give me, I'll try my best to not to commit it to my memory] nor attacking you. I am simply clarifying to understand better, so I can argue back to the casino.

If you don't mind to share such private information, would you tell me your residency? Uhh, what nationality do you have. By PM is fine if you deemed that info too sensitive to be known by public.


its pretty funny actually that they are making my nationality and residency a matter of the subject NOW,  since i already passed stage 4 KYC verification quite a long time ago without a problem but ok , i ll send you a pm
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
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ziportan
on 30/06/2025, 07:05:29 UTC
Apparently while the casino "wants the best for us and listens to the forum", they don't hear us unless theres some prophet between us and them.

You... do aware that if you want me to talk to them about your case, all you need is to say "yes", right? Just to give me consent to get into your case. I won't even play hard on you or make it difficult by toying around or anything. No other words, no bad blood, no other requirement. Just a "yes", everyone here will understand that as a consent and I'll proceed. No comments or retort, at least you won't hear from me. Because, holy is not the one that sabotaged your case. Consent is all I need.

That said, worth to also mention that the casino has done the least of what other casinos did in similar situation, returning your initial deposit. No personal fund being confiscated and there is no scam, and thus, if you don't want a bridging, and given the casino didn't confiscate your winning, I'll mark this as resolved on my next update.

Your call.

im sure youre smart enough to understand im not keeping this up for the money but my principles. truth be told, i couldnt care less about a few hundred bucks. i would even offer xyes to donate it on a list of charities that i would pick, if i didnt suspect they would show me a fake receipt as they altered their fake license info on their site which then took down.

what pisses me off here is to be accused of something i didnt do and naturally not shown any proof. theres already lots of formal and informal reps of the casino here so my thought is `why would i even need another mediator to solve this thing behind close doors , than doing it transparently with the casino reps in front of the public eye?` . i think you got my point ,right? but apparently in the real world things dont work ideally i guess, so ok, do what you have to do.  if you can take it , i ll donate it to a charity i regularly do ; if not, i dont care
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
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ziportan
on 30/06/2025, 06:15:40 UTC
we need to get your payments too, you have the same thing as me, they just took our winnings from us. They should pay you your winnings.

Apparently while the casino "wants the best for us and listens to the forum", they don't hear us unless theres some prophet between us and them.
I’m not going back to read the whole thread again, did you ask anyone else for help. You aren’t going to lose this case.

No i just didnt understand the logic of asking someone for help since the ones i saw was not very trustworthy
XYes is a new book. Not like Stake where you have no chance of winning. If you ask for help make sure to post some things about their fake license and claim of 800,000 users. This shows they have no credibility. XYes will most likely forge documents.


Lol what help bro. Darwsall and me opened our scam accusations almost same day, everyone here read everything there and xyes decided to pay him and not me for whatever reason. You think they dont know  about my case? Thats silly. Just ignoring it with a strong motivation
OSGA has helped me in the past. Try AskGamblers too. Believe me, this case is so simple, you will win.


I already wrote before. You can't file a complaint for xyes on the professional casino rating sites cos none of them listing that casino. Askgamblers advise you to get in touch with xyes licence , which they dont have any lmao

Why you think casino rep here kept telling us to open a complaint on a 3rd party? Cos that's not possible

I read the thread. God of Thunder works for them and he's bullied you in multiple threads. It was mob mentality and people ganged up against you. It's obvious that XYes is wrong and scary that they accused both of you of arbing for the amounts that you two bet. They are obviously new to booking.

Why don't you suggest that your friend create a complaint on any mediator service and invite Xyes to elaborate? When it comes to flagging arbitrage or other abusive activity, these activities are usually flagged by the odds provider, not the casino. As Xyes said, they are willing to share their investigation evidence with the moderators or the admin. Since the forum moderator does not moderate the scam, I suggest that Xyes share the evidence with reputed forum members. I suggested holydarkness in this case, but holydarkness does not want to get involved.

Do you consider yourself a reputed forum member, Rating Place?
This is crazy. A legendary forum member with 64 earned merits, negative feedback, neutral feedback in a negative spirit, and a couple of DT exclusion thinks they are a reputed member.





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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 20:18:31 UTC
we need to get your payments too, you have the same thing as me, they just took our winnings from us. They should pay you your winnings.

Apparently while the casino "wants the best for us and listens to the forum", they don't hear us unless theres some prophet between us and them.
I’m not going back to read the whole thread again, did you ask anyone else for help. You aren’t going to lose this case.

No i just didnt understand the logic of asking someone for help since the ones i saw was not very trustworthy
XYes is a new book. Not like Stake where you have no chance of winning. If you ask for help make sure to post some things about their fake license and claim of 800,000 users. This shows they have no credibility. XYes will most likely forge documents.


Lol what help bro. Darwsall and me opened our scam accusations almost same day, everyone here read everything there and xyes decided to pay him and not me for whatever reason. You think they dont know  about my case? Thats silly. Just ignoring it with a strong motivation
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 20:00:23 UTC
we need to get your payments too, you have the same thing as me, they just took our winnings from us. They should pay you your winnings.

Apparently while the casino "wants the best for us and listens to the forum", they don't hear us unless theres some prophet between us and them.
I’m not going back to read the whole thread again, did you ask anyone else for help. You aren’t going to lose this case.

No i just didnt understand the logic of asking someone for help since the ones i saw was not very trustworthy
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Re: XYES.COM SCAM ( UPD they returned the winnings)
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 17:25:39 UTC
we need to get your payments too, you have the same thing as me, they just took our winnings from us. They should pay you your winnings.

Apparently while the casino "wants the best for us and listens to the forum", they don't hear us unless theres some prophet between us and them.
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Re: XYES.COM SCAM
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 15:16:42 UTC
https://imgur.com/a/xwSFR5K

We still won this battle! Thanks to those who helped, thanks to every person who believed in me. We were able to do it.

congrats man. its just you though . my winnings are still confiscated
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 14:00:33 UTC



HOLYDARKNESS VS NONAME SCAM CASINOS, while hes backdoor negotiating and giving `assistance` 



OP, focus on me.

This is my latest proposal [#99] to see the end of this case. My attempt to deescalate matters. As what I always do. If I may repeat and make it easier:

1. They will void your supposed arb-winnning, amounted 208.03
2. They will honor your legitimate winning, amounted 733.47
3. If I recall correctly, they've return your principal of 410
4. Thus, the amount payable to you is 323.47

Do you accept this?

If you do, I'll try to talk them into it. I can't guarantee they'll accept, but I'll try and give my best. Otherwise, find other who want to mediate "bridge".


OP, I can see you online from time to time. I can't proceed without your words. Tell me what you think and I'll relay it to the casino. Otherwise, this case won't move anywhere, because the ball is now in your court.

I already told you that I do not consider myself guilty and insist on full payment of the winnings. This is all I would like to receive from the casino.

I believe this shall be the closing statement of this case:

After a thorough discussion with the casino, as a gesture of goof will and show that the casino listens to the forum and have the forum's best interest at heart, they are agreed to recredit all of your winnings to be withdrawable, amounted USD 436.94 on top of the prior deposit that's already withdrawn. Following the withdrawal, the account will be permanently locked.







HOLYDARKNESS VS A PROFESSIONAL BOOKIE that actually appreciates personal information and rejects shady 3rd parties




Well... that escalated rather... quickly. I got a reply from them, basically informing me that they can't discuss matters about their players with a third party [me] due to privacy matters, and assured me that each cases [yours and a neighboring one] was or will be addressed with the player themselves upon them reaching the team.

And uhh... I guess sadly this is where my help stopped. I do really hope I can help further, but it seems I hit a wall.

As a side note that I think worth mentioning, I have a feeling that the one replied me last time was a different guy than the one who previously attended to my mails.




LMAO.


At least there are some decent casinos out there that dont give any credit to these weasels trying to take advantage of the situation
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Re: XYES.COM SCAM
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 12:20:25 UTC
Their TOS already covered that they do not allow arbitrage betting. They are now paying as a gesture of goodwill and nothing else. If they do not pay, no one can do anything because they are within their rights.


Your case and this case are different. It seems you were flagged for value betting, while this case is about arbitrage betting.

You are a joke to everyone who read this thread. Good luck with the begging to other new casinos to be their puppy dog since xyes is already a widely known scam
quote author=God Of Thunder link=topic=5547910.msg65521261#msg65521261 date=1750916659]

If you have a plan to expand your business on the forum and need some good strategy, feel free to reach me. No charges for consultation anyway!
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 08:59:54 UTC
I read that XYes is paying because they listen to the forum. I thought it just hasn’t been sent yet. That you were both going to get paid. The 5 second case continues.

We all had to act like jerks to get paid. There was no other way to do it. We tried be civilized and it didn’t work.

XYES IS NOT PAYING ME ANYTHING.

XYES HASNT PAID ANYTHING YET TO DARSWALL EITHER SINCE HE DIDNT CONFIRM

THEY JUST AGREED TO PAY HIM BECAUSE HE NEGOTIATED THROUGH HOLYDARKNESS AND I REFUSED TO DO IT OUT OF PRINCIPLES
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 08:48:14 UTC
Hello again!

Here is our official response regarding the case:

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📢Official Notice Regarding Account Termination Due to Arbitrage Activity

After a thorough internal investigation, account 79335696, 17711119 have  been identified by our risk control team as engaging in arbitrage betting, which is a clear violation of our platform's fair play policies.
✅Customer's original deposit will be fully refunded.
❌All profits generated through arbitrage tactics will be forfeited, and the account is now permanently suspended.

To ensure transparency and platform integrity, we would like to emphasize:
All related account data and investigative findings will only be shared with Bitcointalk administrators or moderators upon request.
If you are a Bitcointalk moderator and require further details, please DM our official account directly.
We remain committed to maintaining a fair and secure gaming environment for all users.

XYES.Com

Thank you.


the main idea here is 2 users getting accused of the same bs by the casino and gets their wnnings stolen

one decides to negotiate through a shady member of the forum and the other doesnt

one gets paid and the other doesnt..

THATS IT..


if you think its fair , then theres nothing to say more


I’m confused again. You aren’t getting paid at all?


how may damn times i have to tell you bro
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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 08:44:02 UTC
Hello again!

Here is our official response regarding the case:

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📢Official Notice Regarding Account Termination Due to Arbitrage Activity

After a thorough internal investigation, account 79335696, 17711119 have  been identified by our risk control team as engaging in arbitrage betting, which is a clear violation of our platform's fair play policies.
✅Customer's original deposit will be fully refunded.
❌All profits generated through arbitrage tactics will be forfeited, and the account is now permanently suspended.

To ensure transparency and platform integrity, we would like to emphasize:
All related account data and investigative findings will only be shared with Bitcointalk administrators or moderators upon request.
If you are a Bitcointalk moderator and require further details, please DM our official account directly.
We remain committed to maintaining a fair and secure gaming environment for all users.

XYES.Com

Thank you.


the main idea here is 2 users getting accused of the same bs by the casino and gets their wnnings stolen

one decides to negotiate through a shady member of the forum and the other doesnt

one gets paid and the other doesnt..

THATS IT..


if you think its fair , then theres nothing to say more

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Re: XYES SCAM- Refusing to pay for no reason
by
ziportan
on 29/06/2025, 08:40:12 UTC
No one should be praised. People tried to sabatoge your case. Many said you were guilty if you go back and read the threads. I’m just glad you guys didn’t settle.

A flag from an odds provider is not proof. It's a warning given to the sportsbook.

And yet im still not paid
Keep us updated.


@holy there’s at least 4 of us in these two threads that have been flagged. It’s not a big deal. Flags aren’t proof.


Not much to update. its quite obvious now if you dont cooperate with the big dogs of the forum, you cant even get your winnings from a casino.. look at the scam threads, holy jumpes in every each of them to be the prophet between the casino and the victim, for whatever strange reason.

You can understand how `fair` these people by the attitude towards me, just cos they find me annoying for opposing their weird bridging system between the scam casinos and us, they make casino pay to one user and not the other one - me- . i of course wouldnt change my mind about their shady position even for a million bucks,unlike him, saying hes doing it for the `good of the forum` and then take 7000 usd donations from the victim who got robbed by the casino, but that doesnt change the fact that its just unfair to pay one user just because he works with this system and the other doesnt. i hope the users of the forum sees this injustice
xyes employee here keeps telling me to open an accusation on a casino review site which is even impossible to xyes is so insignificantly small that they even dont have a complaint section for xyes lol.
Anyway, as holydarkness clearly stated,users who work with him gets paid by weird backdoor casino deals and the others dont.. simple as that
holy said he didn't see your account information. All he saw was one sentence of a cautionary flag that the player is an arbitrage bettor. The long report he gave us came straight from the mouth of XYes.

As Xyes said, they are willing to share their investigation evidence with the moderators or the admin.

and you want me to find the post that g.o.t said that he saw all the evidence about our accounts thats why hes accusing us?

it doesnt matter he saw mine or any others information even if we let the casino to show..

i let the casino to shot it openly, they didnt cos its forbidden by law. its forbidden the same way if they showed it to another irrelevant person even if the account holder lets them.. let alone the fact that theres no evidence of any wrongdoing at all