Quote from: tecshare on June 09, 2011, 06:02:32 AM

Quote from: jaimedimon on June 09, 2011, 12:01:25 AM

Quote from: tecshare on June 08, 2011, 07:13:45 AM

"Rather, jurors delivered zero guilty verdicts. Three defendants, all workers, were acquitted as well as Kahres mother, who worked as a runner for her sons businesses. Two other defendants were partly acquitted the jury hung on one count each. The jury also hung on all counts faced by Kahre, Loglia and Kahres sister, resulting in mistrials."

http://www.rapidtrends.com/robert-kahre-vs-the-irs-and-doj/

Fact recheck - he was not convicted that case from 2003. At that point he became part of the IRS shitlist.
The link you posted: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/nov/17/businessman-robert-kahre-sentenced-tax-fraud-schem/
is from 2009.

This time he was convicted - mind you, because he declared the capitol he owned in federal reserve notes in order to leverage them for loan applications. He claimed the face value of the coin to the IRS and the federal reserve note market value of the coin on his loan application. He made two primary mistakes which I specifically mentioned earlier.

1) He converted his coins into federal reserve notes (by receiving FRNs from the bank based on that as collateral)

2) He consented to declaring a federal reserve note value of the capitol by simply filling out the application and signing it.

The federal reserve system is VOLUNTARY. If you do not use the system you are not liable for taxes paid into it. The moment you use federal reserve notes you give your consent to being bound by this contractual agreement. Most people don't understand that your income taxes don't go to build roads and schools, 100% of it goes directly to the PRIVATE bank known as the federal reserve. All the services that help maintain our communities are paid for with your property and sales taxes within the state. This system is a giant black hole imploding our economy, as well as the worlds. For the love of god stop feeding it!

The thing that's gonna kill bitcoin faster than anything, is having idiots posting ridiculous conspiracy theories about taxes being voluntary, that the IRS has specifically pointed out as being bullshit.

http://www.irs.gov/taxpros/article/0,,id=159932,00.html#_Toc284193999

Go read that site. The government office that is responsible for enforcing the tax code says that anyone following your advice is committing income tax evasion. When law enforcement people read posts like yours, they certainly document them to use in future cases against bitcoin and various affiliated groups like mt gox, bitlaundry, etc.

What you have done:
1) Called me a Idiot

2) Called me a "conspiracy theorist"

3) Referenced the very same private for profit company that benefits from the populace remaining ignorant about their financial rights.

What you haven't done:
Address a single one of my points. Personal attacks are consistently the tool of choice for the ignorant. Additionally I never claimed to be offering tax advice. Anyone who files their taxes in accordance to advice from random people on the internet without any research on their own would eventually get themselves into trouble WITHOUT my so called advice.

No, what I have done is stated facts. You can live in your little fantasy world where taxes are voluntary, because the IRS cannot possibly catch every single tax evader.

You haven't made any salient points. You are simply making an argument that is already discredited by the government agency that regulates that particular aspect of society.

That means that anyone following your 'advice' is setting themselves up for a long visit to pound me in the ass federal prison. Especially if that person happens to have a decent amount of money that the IRS can seize.

You can go ahead and believe that you are correct, and the US government, the IRS, the entire US legal system, and the entire US law enforcement system is wrong. However, spreading that nonsense here just makes it easier for governments to attack bitcoins as an illegal attempt to evade taxes. What mainstream company or retailer is going to want to be associated with that type of nonsense?

Every single person who owns a bitcoin, should condemn your nonsense, as it is a huge threat to the idea of bitcoin itself.

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