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XMR/AEON Developer Smooth Investigation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151565.0 Cool

Thank you for your support.

Don`t make me believe that spamming is the only thing VNL dev can do.

Instead of producing substantial arguments in your coin`s favor, you begin spamming?

I don't believe that false accusations are the only thing other devs can do... They can't code zero time that's for sure. Cheesy

You can accuse anyone for anything. That's why we have courts to prove that someone is guilty. If you are certain that he broke the law then go and inform the police... What are you waiting for... oh wait

I agree - if a law has been broken (you haven't even established in which jurisdiction yet?) then you should report it to the police or engage a lawyer for a professional opinion.

In fact I will report it to the bitcoin police on reddit for you

The legality of it doesn't really matter. In the open source, free software community, this type of behavior is incredibly immoral. It's not a fucking free for all, there are community standards to be upheld from an ethics standpoint.

The simple fact that john-connor claimed to have written the entire Vanillacoin source from scratch means he has committed fraud. Why you would trust a developer like this is beyond me. Regardless of his ability to develop software, his inability to engage in ethical practices is a huge red flag.

Yet he has already built a following of sheep trying to ride his coattail to monetary gain.

Yeaah, now legality doesn't matter. So what matters more? If he commited a fraud(fraud is illegal, but it doesn't matter?) as you claim, you should report it. If my competitors would stole intellectual property and took my market share I would fight against it. But not by hanging a large banner "company x is stealing intellectual property" on my own company's headquarters like xmr and other devs are doing(you can go to jail for something like this). It's plain stupid, trolling, or unfair competition what you are doing. You can't prove shit, but you are still attacking.

Someone is stealing money from the bank, I'm going to post on his facebook that he is a thief but I'm not going to call the police because he wasn't stealing. Fuck logic

What I am doing? I'm arguing my opinion which has factual merit. I don't need to report any activity to any authority in order for my arguments to be valid and strong.

I can write here that you are a liar, my opinion has factual merit, because you are lying that John stole bitcoin's code. You are wrong, your arguments are not strong and valid. Anyone can write whatever he wants. It really takes a lot more to prove that someone stole code than stupid post on bitcointalk... You seem to not understand that simple fact.

Okay trolling confirmed. For the record (directed at third party observers seeking information), I have very little coding experience but I am in my second C++ class at University. Simply looking at both codebases, it's very easy to see that everything borrowed from the Bitcoin source code was simply rewritten with different variable and constant names. This refactoring is not against the copyright license that the Bitcoin devs maintain in their code - but since the Vanillacoin dev removed the copyright attribution to Bitcoin from the Vanillacoin code and claimed to have written everything from scratch, he is guilty fraudulent and unethical behavior.

See the below quote for evidence:

Quote from: Rick Storm on August 12, 2015, 09:36:20 PM

Comparing a sample piece of code it is clear that at least some of it is based on Bitcoin code:

From vanillacoin - https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/address_manager.cpp#L1315

Code:

* Try to find an entry that can be erased.
*/
for (auto it = bucket_new.begin(); it != bucket_new.end(); ++it)
{
assert(address_info_map_.count(*it));

auto & info = address_info_map_[*it];

if (info.is_terrible())
{
if (--info.reference_count == 0)
{
std::lock_guard l1(mutex_random_ids_);

swap_random(
info.random_position,
static_cast (random_ids_.size() - 1)
);

random_ids_.pop_back();
network_address_map_.erase(info.addr);
address_info_map_.erase(*it);
number_new_--;
}

bucket_new.erase(it);

return;

From Bitcoin 0.9.2 in addrman.cpp:

Code:

// first look for deletable items
for (std::set::iterator it = vNew.begin(); it != vNew.end(); it++)
{
assert(mapInfo.count(*it));
CAddrInfo &info = mapInfo[*it];
if (info.IsTerrible())
{
if (--info.nRefCount == 0)
{
SwapRandom(info.nRandomPos, vRandom.size()-1);
vRandom.pop_back();
mapAddr.erase(info);
mapInfo.erase(*it);
nNew--;
}
vNew.erase(it);
return 0;
}
}

The above code from vanillacoin is based on bitcoin, albeit renamed, refactored, reformatted and re-commented at almost every possible occasion.

The algorithm is the same line by line and even the esoteric identifier name "IsTerrible"/"is_terrible" is used in both.

My guess is John started with a old bitcoin code base and refactored, renamed and recommented the code to a huge degree.

There has also been additions like the zerotime stuff which is not like anything in Bitcoin:

https://github.com/john-connor/vanillacoin/blob/master/src/zerotime.cpp