Quote from: myrkul on November 16, 2012, 02:13:33 PM

Quote from: Brunic on November 16, 2012, 06:58:36 AM

In theory, french-canadians had access to the free market and the wealth, there was nothing against it. But because of racial tensions, it was easy to deny french-canadians the same chance as the english.

Same chance at what? Don't you guys essentially have an entire province to yourselves? You're telling me every business in Quebec was run by the anglophones?

Come on... Even you can't be that naïve.

Not today, things have changed A LOT. But go back 100 years ago, the businesses owners were anglophones and the employees were francophones. The only sector owned by the french-canadians was the agricultural one, where they mainly had family farms. But the industry and services sector were owned at a crushing majority by the anglo. In any common factory, work was done in english and everything was written in english. Even in Montreal, all the business names, the billboards or the ads in the street were practically all in english. We were accommodated though, we had access to democracy and somewhat decent living, because they needed the population.

Remember that the guys you kicked out of the US back in 1776, well, they ended up here. They were not interested in getting another revolution, so they gave us some consideration. We had two hands too and it's useful when you need workers. But they controlled what they gave us, they didn't want us to become too powerful.

I'm not naive, I've read a lot about my history. The 60's is when we got ourselves a bigger government that gave us real access to universities or that nationalize english business (like in energy sector) so that french people had control over a part of the economy. Having a big and socialist government gave us the power that we couldn't get through the free market and right-wing thinking. This big government built our economy, while the free market before that was only exploiting us, with the money going one-way only. Thinking that charity and social work should be done by rich individuals instead of government is nice on paper. But when the rich individuals tell you to "speak white" and see you as second-class citizen, well, you get nothing. Either you get a big government that get back on them through taxes, either you get screwed.

Quote from: bitcoinbitcoin113 on November 16, 2012, 07:52:18 AM

Stop saying in theory!!!!
What government has ever stopped injecting money once it started? How would you measure the success of the ones that did vs the ones that did not?

Well, it worked for us, that's why I approve this method. I agree it is not the panacea, because it is relative to many factors. Still, when I compare the situation of my grand-parents back then and my situation today, I see the success of it.

On that, I think I've hijacked the topic too much Wink