Quote from: BitSyncom on February 09, 2013, 02:53:42 AM

Amazing, and I thought my English needs improvement. Don't even get me started on how you imply every other sentence.

Quote from: kano on February 09, 2013, 01:50:37 AM

So you consider sending someone hardware and they having to do software code and general support for who knows how long? A year? as free

I've no fucking idea what part of New York you live in and what people there think, but I do wonder what things you require that you consider people should do for you that you consider worth nothing.

Here you imply:
- 1. Assuming I, who did not sent you a unit thinks open source support is free,

Seems pretty obvious from this statement:

Quote from: BitSyncom on February 08, 2013, 09:11:59 PM

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You are pissed off because we haven't got around to release source code yet or the fact we did not giving you a free unit?

What's next - you'll say you never said that?

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- 2. Assumed more by providing support you justify for hardware, thus should receive one.

Learning to read are we?
I've already clearly stated I don't want an Avalon.
Was that too hard to understand?

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- 3. drag New York into this for no fucking reason, is the bold parts even English? That I'm not sure, but yet again, another assumption.

Well since that is where you are from, I was wondering if this assumption, that people who might provide support should do it for free, was some sort of local custom?

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Quote from: kano on February 09, 2013, 01:50:37 AM

I also will note that you got Xiangfu to do the driver software development but did NOT give him an Avalon.
I wonder if he got ripped off with what you paid him for that ...
An Avalon is only $1300 retail ...

Here's what you imply:
1. Assuming I did not give Xiangfu a unit, every Avalon developer is entitled to a special unit with gold-plated PCB and signed unit, but we've been so busy we didn't even celebrate our chip success yet, which is now more than a month ago.

No actually it's quite simple, had you given him a unit, the current well known problems and bugs with the Avalon could have be resolved already.

But no doubt supporting your customers is something you don't give a shit about ... as per the posts above mine ...

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I wonder if he got ripped off with what you paid him for that ...

2. What the fuck are you trying to imply here scum? For your information, xiangfu named his own price.
3. Why is the price of the unit a factor here?

I wonder if he asked for an Avalon and was rejected? Cheesy

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Quote from: kano on February 09, 2013, 01:50:37 AM

Though I will point out for others, that you did NOT get the cgminer source for free.
It came with the GPL license requirements.

When did I mention I got this for free? more imply please.
When did I violate GPL license requirement? Oh wait, as you said, I did not.

Try again ... read it ... don't skip words ... not even the big ones ... "others"

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Quote from: kano on February 09, 2013, 01:50:37 AM

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But if you are going to come into my thread a year ago stating on how every other ASIC manufacture has been given developers free units so they may support their hardware and if I and Avalon choose not to do this you will not provide support then I'll reject you on sheer principle fucking level.

Good day.

Good for you - that's your principle.
Though I'd like to see the quote you are implying ... ... ... ...

Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120184.msg1317892#msg1317892

Let's say I was wrong and you didn't say

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"If you want support then you must provide me hardware."

because you assumed I was going to ask you to provide support.

At least learn how to quote retard.
Go read that link again ... it says:

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Thirdly, hardware is required for proper support.

Yes I know you don't want your Avalon users to get proper support.
That's been clear already.
But when you quote someone ... don't edit it first ... sheesh what lies are you going to spread next?

Well there was the statement about building 12 Avalons a day since 20-Jan.
I wonder if that is true?
You should have built 180 by now if you only worked on week days.
That's more than half the first batch already.
Hopefully your customers will get them soon ..............

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THEN what's the problem you have with Avalon that "piss you off" aside from the fact we are slow to provide source code, but is still within the definition of GPLv3?

The problem I have with Avalon that "piss me off" is that your've used the source code to make your product work and still not yet released the source code and on top of that used an excuse that directly implies a violation of the source code license.
A group of people who claim how "Open Source" they are and yet you made such a stupid comment about editing the code before releasing it.
I don't give a shit about what other code you have that you guys wrote - I'm of course only referring to cgminer.
Your supposed to be smart, yet I have to explain that to you? Wow - I've well over estimated you.

So: You already have the code - or Jeff and the Foundation are lying?
I think it's pretty obvious which is correct: you have the code and have had it for weeks.
Your hiding it ... for who knows what reason ...

... and lastly ...
Are you smart enough to spot something else you are doing?
You're (with my help) dragging the Avalon name through the dirt in the BFL thread.
Yeah smart move that one Tongue