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Do you still hold the view that atheism is a religion? But this is absurd. How can you believe in what, how, does not exist?

That is the big part of the point. Does God exist or not?

People believe in all kinds of things. Some of them seem absurd to other people. But where is the proof, either way?

Since the atheist knows that he knows that he doesn't have proof that God doesn't exist, that is...

... Since the atheist doesn't have any proof that God doesn't exist on Jupiter, how can the atheist KNOW that God doesn't exist on the planet Jupiter? The atheist realizes that he doesn't know. So, since he knows that he doesn't know, he is aware that God MIGHT exist on the planet Jupiter. Since he knows that God might exist on Jupiter, what is all this atheism talk about?

Atheism has to do with the BELIEF that God doesn't exist. That is what religion and cults are all about... belief.

If the atheist said that God might exist somewhere that he is unaware of, and that he simply doesn't know, the atheist would be right, and he also wouldn't be an atheist. Since the atheist tries to hide the whole idea that God might exist somewhere that he doesn't know about, what, really, is atheism to this kind of atheist? All adamant, forceful, determined atheists are like this.

Atheism is a blunt, disease, religion. At least the other religions admit that they don't have proof that their religion is the way it is, if they don't have proof.

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If you care about the truth, you should not be believing in something for which there is no evidence.

The most honest position is to say: "I don't know. There is no evidence. Next question."

Not to say: "I don't know how I know, but I'm going to believe it anyway because I feel like it (or because someone wrote it in a book). Despite the fact that there is no evidence."

Why then do you ever argue and spoil your nerves? Why should I, for example, have something to prove or discuss something about my faith. This is absurd. Faith is a state of mind, and not an exact science following the example of an axiom.

Because you make extraordinary claims. Your faith is absurd. Complete nonsense. That is why if you want to talk about religion you better have something to back up your ridiculous views.

You sound like someone who says: "I am Napoleon. I do not need to prove it. It is absurd why someone would ask me to prove it."

We are talking about zombies in the sky or winged horses. You need to explain yourself, otherwise, stop talking about your religions, and stop having children.

If you want us to treat you as a sane person, you need to provide the proof for your extraordinary claims.

This is exactly the point. The proof that God exists is spelled out here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

It isn't faith except that all science laws and everything else is understood by faith. And a person doesn't really exist except that he has faith that he does. But in the standard scientific understanding of what proof is, God exists according to the proof.

If a person is so faithful to his atheism religion that he wants to be blind to the proof, that is absolutely his choice. However, since atheism has been shown to be a religion/cult, above, faithful followers of it can't be expected to do anything other than deny/ignore the proof.

Perhaps the proof isn't spelled out as clearly as it could be. But until someone comes up with a step-by-step rebuttal of it, the proof has to stand... since it is scientific laws, not theories... and since atheism has been shown to be a religion/cult.

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BADecker's evidence in a nutshell......

Link 1
Machine like nature of the universe.
Cause and effect
Nations looking for God?
BADecker believes that all machines are ultimately the result of a god.

Link 2
Cause and effect

Link 3
Cause and effect

Link 4
Cause and effect

Cause and effect rebuttal
If cause and effect is proof of a god, then who made god? Was it god's god? And who made god's god? was it god's god's god? This is a cycle of infinity. This is no proof.
BADecker simply applies an assumption that this a god. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7Ttc9g1u8

Machines like nature of the universe rebuttal
BADecker believes that machines need a maker and that maker has to be a god. The reality of this is that evolution has caused the changes. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v481/n7381/full/nature10724.html

BADecker then claims that this is only theory. The reality is that science is disproving/proving all theories we (humans) have believed for years. That is the nature of science. For it to be tested by others. People like BADecker will continually use their same argument of assumptions to state there is no proof that god does not exist. The reality is that history has shown that early Vikings believed "lightning flashed whenever Thor threw his hammer". Science has proven this incorrect.

Nations looking for god rebuttal
BADecker claims that people are looking for how the universe was made. This is true. However, BADecker then claims that because the answers are still not found, the answer must be a god. WRONG.... this is not proof. This is an assumption again on BADecker's part. Science is unlocking secrets every day. Religion is being disproven daily and BADecker continues to hold on to his mindless views.

Why do you keep on posting this religious stuff?

It would be okay in this thread, if it was about atheism. But no. You post religious stuff about some other religion, and a little talk about science facts, as well. This is the atheism thread. Haven't you realized that yet?

The greatest science facts/laws show that God exists. Atheism has been totally rebutted by them, scientifically.

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Actually it is about Atheism.

You tried to show proof of your god's existence..... and I showed how wrong your arguments are.

Your move Puddleduck!

Thanks, again, for helping to solidify the fact that atheism doesn't really exist,
by saying that you were talking about atheism in your post,
but by not showing much, if any, atheism in your post at all.

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Oh Puddleduck...... you silly sausage.

Don't you see that you have not provided any evidence showing your God?

If you did, others would be using your evidence.

I guess they see you as the fool you are.