Quote from: Mometaskers on April 23, 2017, 11:24:24 AM

Quote from: DooMAD on April 23, 2017, 10:22:17 AM

Quote from: yoseph on April 23, 2017, 08:05:37 AM

I think the entire world has shown double standards during The French elections, when Trump was campaigning and his rhetoric was mainly anti immigration and anti Islam, the whole world was condemning him, but Marie Le Pen is campaigning ok the same lines and no one is saying anything against her.

For the record, I've been dead against both from the outset, heh. I would have liked to have seen Sanders at the helm in the US and still think the Democrats made a colossal error in judgement there. I'm not sure about Macron in France. He is a former bankster, so doesn't exactly endear trust, but he's still infinitely preferable to Le Pen. Mélenchon would be my first preference, though.

Quote from: Podgor on April 22, 2017, 09:15:45 PM

Le Pen is the only hope for France. Other choice means complete destruction of culture and values within th next 10 years.

Pffft. People are still so set on this ridiculous notion that "culture" is this static, rigid thing that never changes over time or even by locality. It's such utter horseshit and is largely a thinly-veiled way of saying "I don't like outsiders with their own customs and traditions". Culture in France today is different to how it was 20 years ago. Culture in the north of France differs to that in the south of France. Culture is an organic thing and will change and adapt naturally over the course of time. Change will occur regardless of who is leading the country.

Also, some, myself included, would argue that a Le Pen government would be a destruction of values, because we fought WWII to defeat authoritarian fascism and consign it to the history books as a dark period in human history never to be repeated, not embrace it with open arms and jizz-filled pants like some of the nutters in this thread some decades later.

You're French? Wishing you luck. Whoever wins the election would still need to solve problems with terrorism that many countries in Europe are currently experiencing. Also, you can't blame some of your countrymen that they're aligning themselves with a populist. They're afraid and fear throws reason out the window.

I recently watched a video about Sweden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCE_vEdA9WU&t=2s and it's deeply disturbing, especially the concert assaults. And their government seem to be just sweeping it under a rug. When people feel their problems are not being addressed they'd cling to whoever promises to solve it and will likely stay away from anyone they associate with the current system.

Brit, so I should probably be more focused on my thread about that election, heh. I'm alarmed by the swing to authoritarianism every it seems to be occurring lately. If so-called terrorism causes us to sacrifice our basic human rights and freedoms in the name of defence, then as far as I'm concerned, the terrorists have won. Authoritarianism at home is not the answer and nor is creating yet more displaced people by bombing the shit out of other countries. The solution to the migrant/refugee crisis is not to wall up your borders, it's to stop causing such migration by screwing up other parts of the world to make a profit. The more western countries are pursuing petty national interests at the expense of humanity as a whole, the worse the situation becomes. Stop meddling in the affairs of other nations and marvel at the reduction in the number of refugees you create. It's not rocket science.