I have already shattered the ''logic'' used by perry marshall and you don't want to accept that. You are telling me that after 20 assumptions belief in god is logical, well my friend, that doesn't make much sense now, does it?
It's fairly simple, if god is omnipotent and omnipresent then there is no point for any of this, no point for humans to be waiting for god to comeback, why would he? No point in living this life because he already knows whether someone would go to hell or heaven. Adam and eve make no sense, how did they fail? Didn't they fail because god made them that way? If god knew they would fail, why make them and then punish them for something he already know would happen? It's garbage, you like logic so much, how is this logical to you?
Not to mention all the scientific errors in the bible + all the contradictions that I linked before.
You shattered it huh? Well I suppose we are all giants in our own minds.
I would gently remind you that in our prolonged back and fourth above we reduced Perry Marshall's argument down to three primary assumptions. In most standard mathematical notations 3 < 20
I must also be the bearer of bad news. Although you have repeatedly refused to talk about what you believe in I must inform you that these beliefs whatever they may be are ultimately supported by primary assumptions.
Now on to your chief objection actually two objections.
1) You state that if God is omnipotent and omnipresent then there is no point to life for God already knows the outcome.
2) You question the sin of Adam and Eve. You ask If God knew they would fail, why make them and then punish them.
For the sake of brevity let's address your first question now and once we are done with that we can return to the second objection in a later post.
To respond to your objection we must first understand the purpose of creation. I will quote the words of Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzzatto who wrote an interesting book on this topic.
The Way of God (Chapter 2)
The Purpose of Creation
God's purpose in creation was to bestow His good to another.
God alone is true perfection, free of all deficiency, and there is no perfection comparable to Him. Any imaginable perfection, with the exception of God's, is therefore not true perfection, but it is only relative to something less perfect. Absolute perfection, however, is only That of God.
Since God desires to bestow good, a partial good would not be sufficient. The good that He bestows would have to be the ultimate good that His handiwork could accept. God alone, however, is the only true good, and therefore His beneficent desire would not be satisfied unless it could bestow that very good, namely the true perfect good that exists in His intrinsic Essence.
This is also true in another way. True good exists only in God. His wisdom therefore decreed that the nature of this true benefaction be His giving created things the opportunity to attach themselves to Him to Him to the greatest degree possible for them.
Therefore, even though created things cannot emulate God's perfection in their own right, the fact that they can be attached to Him allows them to partake of it, since they can be considered part of God's perfection as a result of their association with Him. They can thus derive pleasure from that true good to the greatest degree possible for them.
The purpose of all that was created was therefore to bring into existence a creature who could derive pleasure from God's own good, in a way that would be possible for it.
God's wisdom, however, decreed that for such good to be perfect, the one enjoying it must be its master. He must be one who has earned it for himself, and not one given it accidentally or by chance.
If you understand the above passage then you will have the answer to why there is a point to life even if the ultimate outcome is already known to God and not in doubt (see the bolded text above).
But why create humans that you know ultimately will fail and you want to send them to hell for eternal torture (which also makes no sense, eternal torture I mean) You are essentially creating millions and millions of people just to torture them in hell later on for something that is not their fault, god made them and god made the rules. What happens to all the other possible humans? Why are we the ones who exist and the others aren't? Just imagine if your parents had sex another day or month or didn't meet, the amount of different humans is almost infinite or infinite. What is god waiting for? Why is he waiting to come and take us to heaven? Is there a limit of how many people he can take there? There is absolutely no logic in any of this. Why does god need to forgive us if he already knows? Why is god attributed these silly emotions that only a mortal would have? Why would he send his ''son'' to sacrifice himself to himself in order to forgive us? Come on man, you gotta be kidding me, you really believe in this bullshit?
''I would gently remind you that in our prolonged back and fourth above we reduced Perry Marshall's argument down to three primary assumptions'' If you admit they are just assumptions then don't use it as evidence to say the belief in god is logical. It would only be logical if all the assumptions are correct. I can use X amounts of assumptions to prove the belief in magic unicorns is logical. It's pointless.
As for my beliefs, I don't have. Why would I believe in anything for no reason? I don't know what happens when we die, I know there is some scientific evidence pointing to ''nothing'' but there is also so many things we still don't know it's hard to say for sure that when someone dies nothing happens. Maybe something does happen, maybe something else changes in another dimension, who knows. There is no reason to believe in after life tho or heaven or reincarnation. You could accept them as wild possibilities but assuring to people that any of them are real is lying, to yourself and to everyone. I'm going to live my life the best I can. I don't see a reason not be a good person and at the same time enjoy life as much as possible and if there is some god out there that really cares about humans I should have no problems passing the test as I lived my life the best I could and I don't see a reason why a god would make me go to hell and torture me forever just because I don't believe in him or accept him. That's my ''belief''