Quote from: bible_pay on January 29, 2018, 09:53:10 PM

Quote from: exyacminer on January 29, 2018, 07:31:45 PM

regarding the state of the pool I believe the only long running problem it has ever had is the subsidy system. this is now badly abused. all you have to do is double-click on a record in the 'block distribution' tab on the pool site. look at the top ten miners there. some are mining fairly with serious hash but many have split their (still considerable) hash into over a hundred very small workers to maximize their return. this has at least two serious effects.
1. it actually dilutes the benefit that genuine small miners receive
2. it is the largest disincentive to putting a decent amount of hash on the pool as a large percentage now simply enriches people with more hashpower than you yourself!

another effect is that no-one really knows how much their hash contribution is really worth. i have no idea whether i would be a net donator or a net receiver of subsidy, i suspect the latter. Either way i believe the current situation is both unfair and unjust.

ps no-one is mining 'against' the pool. people are just mining.

Its enjoyable when speaking to an individual who asserts oneself with authority on a subject, and quite another when one talks surely and appears to be incorrect about every facet.

Im sorry if I sound scathing, but, if the pool payout system was that crooked, I dont think anyone would pool mine. And the very first requirement to writing a pool is paying a distributed amount per contribution relative to others.

So you are saying that large miners have an advantage? Everyone else is saying small miners have an advantage.

The pool pays out in variable hardness shares. Clicking on a large miners row and seeing how many physical machines only tells us how many physical machines they decided to spend money on. It does not show any "advantage" - from what I can see. Where do you get that "guess"?

Uh, yes, all those guys are mining "against" the pool. They are not solo mining. Why do you "guess" that? PS they are against the pool because they are mining fractional shares. And getting rewarded for them.

How do you not know whether you are a donor or not when we have detailed pool reports? Donor sounds like a blood delivery system.

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Slovakia, lets let SEO tell us his two day results compared to pool first.

whew! i didn't know i could be that misunderstood..but thanks for replying.
1. i did not say the system was crooked, i said it was being badly abused
2. i did not say large miners get an advantage, i said large miners get an advantage if they split their hash into many, really many, much smaller miners. this is obvious!
3. the top of the block distribution page contains examples of this
i don't understand the math of the subsidy system, so i dont know whether i, with 14*750 and 6*650 hashes would be subsidising others, or receiving a subsidy from others. I do not wish to receive a subsidy from anyone!

i wish this project nothing but good, it is the only witness to Christ in an ocean of wishful thinking.
Peace in Him